LOST: The Final Season

Master Gracey 5

Active Member
I enjoyed it immensely, though I kept tearing up every time another person remembered their life on the island.

I actually watched most of the two hour special beforehand and something the creators said really stuck with me and helped explain everything. Basically they made this a show about people and relationships - the focus was always on the characters and how they became who they are, and how the island changed them. Once I realized that the island was always secondary in the plotlines, I didn't feel so bad that they left questions unanswered.
 

Gucci65

Well-Known Member
Can't remember how many times I cried watching this show last night and then I dreamed about it. I was confused about the ending, but now.....I understand.

Had I paid more attention I would have realized that Jack's Dad said it all.
The flash sideways was not real, it was only used to bring everyone together again AFTER they had ALL died. Some died way before Jack died and some long after (like Sawyer and Kate).

What happened on the island was real.....................

If I have it wrong, someone please correct me.
 

lilclerk

Well-Known Member
I have to say, I called that we'd hear Julliette talking about a dutch coffee date with Sawyer in the final episode at the end of last season.
I loved that when she died in Sawyer's arms, she was having that conversation with him. We thought "it worked" was about the bomb, but she was really talking about the vending machine.
That scene really got me, and I never even liked Juliet.

Can't remember how many times I cried watching this show last night and then I dreamed about it. I was confused about the ending, but now.....I understand.

Had I paid more attention I would have realized that Jack's Dad said it all.
The flash sideways was not real, it was only used to bring everyone together again AFTER they had ALL died. Some died way before Jack died and some long after (like Sawyer and Kate).

What happened on the island was real.....................

If I have it wrong, someone please correct me.

That's how I took it. The events on the island really happened, and as the characters died, they went to this "sideways" universe. Once they were all there together, they were ready to move on.
 

Wilt Dasney

Well-Known Member
the focus was always on the characters and how they became who they are, and how the island changed them. Once I realized that the island was always secondary in the plotlines, I didn't feel so bad that they left questions unanswered.
I see a lot of people saying that today, which I guess is a nice way to cap it off...and the show had very strong characters, no doubt about it.

It just bugs me to hear people dismissing the importance of the island and its mysteries when it seems to me that's the reason a lot of people were drawn into the show, and the reason it gained such an awareness in popular culture, to begin with.

I think if the producers had told people at the end of Season 1 that it's really all about the characters and the questions raised about the island may or may not be answered, but they really don't matter anyway because that's really not the point of the show — they'd have ed off a lot of people and made them feel misled.

Having said that, the show was nice from an emotional fulfillment perspective. I really like that view of the afterlife, and hope the real thing is kinda like that. But I had already realized (as had a lot of people) that the show wasn't going to answer all its questions by the way this season played out, so I wasn't too disappointed at the lack of exposition, simply because I wasn't expecting it.

I was always more of a casual viewer, though. I think if I had invested six years into trying to understand the intricate mysteries of the island, I'd feel a little cheated right now at being told I was just focusing on the wrong thing and missed the point.
 

Expo_Seeker40

Well-Known Member
I agree with some other posts.

As far as the show is concerned....yes, Oceanic 815 did crash onto the island in 2004 and in 2007 Jack died while a small group made it off the island and back to main land. Hugo took over as caretaker of the Island, and will have the help of Ben Linus and the aid of Desmond, whose powers still haven't been 100% tapped yet. Rose and her husband and Walt's dog are on the island at the time of Jack's death, Walt's dog even rests next to Jack as he dies.

I'm divided about the flash sideways. Yes I understand what Jack's father was saying to him, making me believe that the flash sideways is nothing more than a purgatory to help Jack and everyone else find closure....years after even the survivors who made it back to main land died.

What divides me is....could the flash sideways simply be happening in the same amount of time while Jack in 2007 is wounded and dying...that when the light envelopes him and everyone else....their flash sideways lives "die" so that the real time line can become true....that the island is saved....there are people alive on it as well as people just leaving it....and both flash sideways Jack and real world 2007 Jack die at the exact time. :veryconfu :rolleyes: :hammer: :lookaroun
 

k.hunter30

New Member
I agree with some other posts.

As far as the show is concerned....yes, Oceanic 815 did crash onto the island in 2004 and in 2007 Jack died while a small group made it off the island and back to main land. Hugo took over as caretaker of the Island, and will have the help of Ben Linus and the aid of Desmond, whose powers still haven't been 100% tapped yet. Rose and her husband and Walt's dog are on the island at the time of Jack's death, Walt's dog even rests next to Jack as he dies.

I'm divided about the flash sideways. Yes I understand what Jack's father was saying to him, making me believe that the flash sideways is nothing more than a purgatory to help Jack and everyone else find closure....years after even the survivors who made it back to main land died.

What divides me is....could the flash sideways simply be happening in the same amount of time while Jack in 2007 is wounded and dying...that when the light envelopes him and everyone else....their flash sideways lives "die" so that the real time line can become true....that the island is saved....there are people alive on it as well as people just leaving it....and both flash sideways Jack and real world 2007 Jack die at the exact time. :veryconfu :rolleyes: :hammer: :lookaroun
To answer the last question, if we take what Christian said as true, then no, it couldn't happen "in the same amount of time while Jack in 2007 is wounded and dying."

And, this is just how I took it, I wouldn't assume that the "small group" actually made it to the main land. I guess that was what spurred my question of what everyone thinks the last shots during the credits suggest. :shrug:
 

Lee

Adventurer
From what I hear, the footage of the wreckage during the credits was not storyline related. Just something to illustrate how the show has come full circle.
So yeah...the plane Lapidis was flying made it back safely.

I really liked the finale, but the unanswered questions are killing me.:brick:
Sure, it was all about the characters, but to dismiss the island and it's mysteries without any more explanation than what we got is just mean.

Some nagging questions:
-What happened to Walt? He was widely known to have filmed some scenes.
-Why did the Man in Black (Samuel, by the way) loose his powers when the stone was removed? And why didn't he just turn to smoke and kill Jack and the others before taking Desmond to the waterfall?
-What was the deal with the babies dying? Was Jacob doing that? And why?
-Why was Sayid reunited with Shannon and not Nadia?
-How did Whidmore and Eloise figure into all this? Was he a good guy or not? I guess if he was trying to stop Samuel, he must have been kinda good....but then what was up with him sending the freighter full of mercenaries to kill a bunch of folks?
-Dharma. Does it still exist? Who's dropping the food? Why were they there, and how did they know about the island/find it? How did they know about the smoke monster, but not what the real deal was with the island....

Aaaarrrrgh......:brick:
 

minnie2000

Well-Known Member
I was very disappointed. I feel that none of the strange happenings on the island have been explained. If they were all waiting to die, or move to Heaven, what the point of the Dharma institute? Who was Mr Widmore? Why did Desmond need to keep pressing the button?

They might as well have said that it was all a dream.
 

Master Gracey 5

Active Member
I see a lot of people saying that today, which I guess is a nice way to cap it off...and the show had very strong characters, no doubt about it.

It just bugs me to hear people dismissing the importance of the island and its mysteries when it seems to me that's the reason a lot of people were drawn into the show, and the reason it gained such an awareness in popular culture, to begin with.

I think if the producers had told people at the end of Season 1 that it's really all about the characters and the questions raised about the island may or may not be answered, but they really don't matter anyway because that's really not the point of the show — they'd have ed off a lot of people and made them feel misled.

Having said that, the show was nice from an emotional fulfillment perspective. I really like that view of the afterlife, and hope the real thing is kinda like that. But I had already realized (as had a lot of people) that the show wasn't going to answer all its questions by the way this season played out, so I wasn't too disappointed at the lack of exposition, simply because I wasn't expecting it.

I was always more of a casual viewer, though. I think if I had invested six years into trying to understand the intricate mysteries of the island, I'd feel a little cheated right now at being told I was just focusing on the wrong thing and missed the point.

I've been comparing it a lot lately to Star Trek: The Next Generation. Yes, that was a sci-fi show and they explored space, but the point of it was more to explore humanity and what it means to be human. The setting was simply a way to bring those questions into a way they could be addressed.

I do see what you are saying about how most fans wouldn't be interested in a show that explored characters, but whether they realize it or not, character is what drives narrative. You can have vivid scenery, a riveting plotline but without strong, complex characters its all thin.

I'm sure they also left a lot of those questions unanswered to hold people's interest. Would we still be discussing it as fervently if everything was tied up neatly? People still discuss the end of the Sopranos years later and they really left it open.

As disappointing and as much of a cop out as it sounds, you don't get the all the answers in life, and Lost is the same way.
 

Laura

22
Premium Member
I loved that when she died in Sawyer's arms, she was having that conversation with him. We thought "it worked" was about the bomb, but she was really talking about the vending machine.
That scene really got me, and I never even liked Juliet.

OMG! Didn't think about that. That is the coolest thing ever. :lol:

-What was the deal with the babies dying? Was Jacob doing that? And why?

Did you ever read the time loop theory? It was written a long time ago and obviously didn't completely pan out, but I think it still explains a lot. It explains the resetting with the numbers every 108 minutes, and explains the babies dying and stuff like that. Though I haven't re-read it since this season so I'm not positive if it could even be a possibility anymore.

http://www.timelooptheory.com/the_timeline.html
 

lilclerk

Well-Known Member
All I want is a book about Hurley and Ben running the island. They were my favorite characters, so I felt totally okay about the ending :lol:
Oh and I hope the DVD set tells us something about Walt. They can't just completely forget about how freakin special he was.
 

Wilt Dasney

Well-Known Member
I've been comparing it a lot lately to Star Trek: The Next Generation. Yes, that was a sci-fi show and they explored space, but the point of it was more to explore humanity and what it means to be human. The setting was simply a way to bring those questions into a way they could be addressed.

I do see what you are saying about how most fans wouldn't be interested in a show that explored characters, but whether they realize it or not, character is what drives narrative. You can have vivid scenery, a riveting plotline but without strong, complex characters its all thin.

I'm sure they also left a lot of those questions unanswered to hold people's interest. Would we still be discussing it as fervently if everything was tied up neatly? People still discuss the end of the Sopranos years later and they really left it open.

As disappointing and as much of a cop out as it sounds, you don't get the all the answers in life, and Lost is the same way.

I totally get what you're saying here.

I think the only reason I find that a little less persuasive in this case is because it seemed to me LOST went out of its way to make it seem like it was about the physical setting, and all the questions it raised.

ST:TNG (one of my favorite shows ever BTW) was basically a character drama that just happened to be set in space, like you say. The setting enhanced and enriched the relationships between the characters, but at the end of every episode you were basically left with Picard reflecting on some lesson learned, not wondering what was up with that wormhole or the Borg or whatever crazy thing they had just encountered.

LOST seemed to really try to make you focus on the polar bears, or the hatch, or The Numbers, or whatever the plot twist du jour was, in a way that made it seem like these things were absolutely central to the story being told. Most of the episodes seemed designed more to leave you thinking "What the hell just happened there?!?" than "Wow, I really feel like I understand Sawyer's motivations more now. What a well-developed character he is."

But again, that's just me. If some people felt like the characters were the focus all along, and didn't get too caught up in all the shiny things surrounding them, then they probably feel pretty content with the ending.
 

Master Gracey 5

Active Member
I totally get what you're saying here.

I think the only reason I find that a little less persuasive in this case is because it seemed to me LOST went out of its way to make it seem like it was about the physical setting, and all the questions it raised.

ST:TNG (one of my favorite shows ever BTW) was basically a character drama that just happened to be set in space, like you say. The setting enhanced and enriched the relationships between the characters, but at the end of every episode you were basically left with Picard reflecting on some lesson learned, not wondering what was up with that wormhole or the Borg or whatever crazy thing they had just encountered.

LOST seemed to really try to make you focus on the polar bears, or the hatch, or The Numbers, or whatever the plot twist du jour was, in a way that made it seem like these things were absolutely central to the story being told. Most of the episodes seemed designed more to leave you thinking "What the hell just happened there?!?" than "Wow, I really feel like I understand Sawyer's motivations more now. What a well-developed character he is."

But again, that's just me. If some people felt like the characters were the focus all along, and didn't get too caught up in all the shiny things surrounding them, then they probably feel pretty content with the ending.

Good point - when a season ends with people staring down a dark hatch, its clearly not the creator's intent to to reflect on the characters involved. The island itself is central to the show and I do sympathize with those who didn't feel closure with the finale leaving these questions open.

Heck, I was just as caught up with many of the shiny things about the island, but either concocted my own explanations that made sense or let them go as pieces that you don't need answers for to enjoy the story. The minor questions they left open probably aren't important to the story, but the big questions like Lee mentioned can be frustrating.

As lilclerk says, maybe we'll get some more information on the DVD set that will help. If not - maybe they'll even do something more with it down the road - a prequel series even?
 

Number_6

Well-Known Member
-Why did the Man in Black (Samuel, by the way) loose his powers when the stone was removed? And why didn't he just turn to smoke and kill Jack and the others before taking Desmond to the waterfall?
The golden light seemed to the source of both Samuel and Jacob's powers, when it left the island, the powers were then lost. Prior to losing his powers, he wasn't allowed to kill Jacob, which is why he had Ben do it. When Jack became guardian of the Island, then he would end up being the one that could not be killed. He wouldn't have allowed Samuel to harm his friends/those who would be candidates to now replace Jack.

-Why was Sayid reunited with Shannon and not Nadia?
Because Nadia wasn't on the Island, Shannon was. He fell in love with Shannon on the Island, so that would be who he would be reunited with.

-How did Whidmore and Eloise figure into all this? Was he a good guy or not? I guess if he was trying to stop Samuel, he must have been kinda good....but then what was up with him sending the freighter full of mercenaries to kill a bunch of folks?
Whidmore I think wanted to protect the Island on his terms. He got himself banished, but sent the freighter to try to remove Ben Linus from command and knowing that "The Others" would be armed, he sent an armed team in to deal with things. The order that would have had them kill Oceanic 815 survivors seems evil, but it's more because he didn't know who might have been corrupted by the smoke monster. Better to remove everyone and not have to worry about it from his point of view. Overall, I think at best he could be called "morally ambiguous" and leave it at that rather than good or evil. As for Eloise...
-Dharma. Does it still exist? Who's dropping the food? Why were they there, and how did they know about the island/find it? How did they know about the smoke monster, but not what the real deal was with the island....
Eloise is one of the few left from Dharma. There are Dharma stations located all over, not just on the Island. And of the ones on the Island, not everyone at every station knew that there were other stations. Eloise ran The Lamp Post. She likely knew all about the existence of The Swan and since there hadn't been an emergency on the Island from that station, it meant someone was still pressing the button. That meant there would still need to be supply drops. Since Desmond was down there alone, food that would have lasted for 6 months to a year would now be able to last twice as long so he wouldn't necessarily have exited the hatch to deal with the latest drop.

As for finding the Island, Eloise explained at one point that The Lamp Post was how they had found the Island in the first place.

They probably saw the smoke monster shortly after arriving at the island. They may or may not have known exactly what was the issue with it, but they could at least tell it was hostile and figured out that sonic barrier was going to be the only way they could guarantee it wouldn't get through. This had the added unintended bonus of making sure it couldn't get to the submarine which was the only way it might have managed to get off the island back then.

Aaaarrrrgh......:brick:

Hope those answers help some.
 

emerald28

New Member
I was pretty frustrated with the Lost finale, until I read this article.
Supposedly written by one of the writers of Lost, this explanation makes perfect sense to me, and makes the finale seem like a better episode. It's long, but it's worth reading...

Good stuff on here! I can finally throw in my two cents! I've had to bite my tongue for far too long. Also, hopefully I can answer some of John's questions about Dharma and the "pointless breadcrumbs" that really, weren't so pointless ...

First ...
The Island:

It was real. Everything that happened on the island that we saw throughout the 6 seasons was real. Forget the final image of the plane crash, it was put in purposely to f*&k with people's heads and show how far the show had come. They really crashed. They really survived. They really discovered Dharma and the Others. The Island keeps the balance of good and evil in the world. It always has and always will perform that role. And the Island will always need a "Protector". Jacob wasn't the first, Hurley won't be the last. However, Jacob had to deal with a malevolent force (MIB) that his mother, nor Hurley had to deal with. He created the devil and had to find a way to kill him -- even though the rules prevented him from actually doing so.

Thus began Jacob's plan to bring candidates to the Island to do the one thing he couldn't do. Kill the MIB. He had a huge list of candidates that spanned generations. Yet everytime he brought people there, the MIB corrupted them and caused them to kill one another. That was until Richard came along and helped Jacob understand that if he didn't take a more active role, then his plan would never work.

Enter Dharma -- which I'm not sure why John is having such a hard time grasping. Dharma, like the countless scores of people that were brought to the island before, were brought there by Jacob as part of his plan to kill the MIB. However, the MIB was aware of this plan and interferred by "corrupting" Ben. Making Ben believe he was doing the work of Jacob when in reality he was doing the work of the MIB. This carried over into all of Ben's "off-island" activities. He was the leader. He spoke for Jacob as far as they were concerned. So the "Others" killed Dharma and later were actively trying to kill Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Hurley and all the candidates because that's what the MIB wanted. And what he couldn't do for himself.

Dharma was originally brought in to be good. But was turned bad by MIB's corruption and eventually destroyed by his pawn Ben. Now, was Dharma only brought there to help Jack and the other Canditates on their overall quest to kill Smokey? Or did Jacob have another list of Canidates from the Dharma group that we were never aware of? That's a question that is purposley not answered because whatever answer the writers came up with would be worse than the one you come up with for yourself. Still ... Dharma's purpose is not "pointless" or even vague. Hell, it's pretty blantent.

Still, despite his grand plan, Jacob wanted to give his "candidates" (our Lostaways) the one thing he, nor his brother, were ever afforded: free will. Hence him bringing a host of "candidates" through the decades and letting them "choose" which one would actually do the job in the end. Maybe he knew Jack would be the one to kill Flocke and that Hurley would be the protector in the end. Maybe he didn't. But that was always the key question of the show: Fate vs Free-will. Science vs Faith. Personally I think Jacob knew from the beginning what was going to happen and that everyone played a part over 6 seasons in helping Jack get to the point where he needed to be to kill Smokey and make Hurley the protector -- I know that's how a lot of the writers viewed it. But again, they won't answer that (nor should they) because that ruins the fun.

In the end, Jack got to do what he always wanted to do from the very first episode of the show: Save his fellow Lostaways. He got Kate and Sawyer off the island and he gave Hurley the purpose in life he'd always been missing. And, in Sideways world (which we'll get to next) he in fact saved everyone by helping them all move on ...

Now...

Sideways World:

Sideways world is where it gets really cool in terms of theology and metaphysical discussion (for me at least -- because I love history/religion theories and loved all the talks in the writer's room about it). Basically what the show is proposing is that we're all linked to certain people during our lives. Call them soulmates (though it's not exactly the best word). But these people we're linked to are with us duing "the most important moments of our lives" as Christian said. These are the people we move through the universe with from lifetime to lifetime. It's loosely based in Hinduisim with large doses of western religion thrown into the mix.

The conceit that the writers created, basing it off these religious philosophies, was that as a group, the Lostaways subconsciously created this "sideways" world where they exist in purgatory until they are "awakened" and find one another. Once they all find one another, they can then move on and move forward. In essence, this is the show's concept of the afterlife. According to the show, everyone creates their own "Sideways" purgatory with their "soulmates" throughout their lives and exist there until they all move on together. That's a beautiful notion. Even if you aren't religious or even spirtual, the idea that we live AND die together is deeply profound and moving.

It's a really cool and spirtual concept that fits the whole tone and subtext the show has had from the beginning. These people were SUPPOSED to be together on that plane. They were supposed to live through these events -- not JUST because of Jacob. But because that's what the universe or God (depending on how religious you wish to get) wanted to happen. The show was always about science vs faith -- and it ultimately came down on the side of faith. It answered THE core question of the series. The one question that has been at the root of every island mystery, every character backstory, every plot twist. That, by itself, is quite an accomplishment.

How much you want to extrapolate from that is up to you as the viewer. Think about season 1 when we first found the Hatch. Everyone thought that's THE answer! Whatever is down there is the answer! Then, as we discovered it was just one station of many. One link in a very long chain that kept revealing more, and more of a larger mosiac.

But the writer's took it even further this season by contrasting this Sideways "purgatory" with the Island itself. Remember when Michael appeared to Hurley, he said he was not allowed to leave the Island. Just like the MIB. He wasn't allowed into this sideways world and thus, was not afforded the opportunity to move on. Why? Because he had proven himself to be unworthy with his actions on the Island. He failed the test. The others, passed. They made it into Sideways world when they died -- some before Jack, some years later. In Hurley's case, maybe centuries later. They exist in this sideways world until they are "awakened" and they can only move on TOGETHER because they are linked. They are destined to be together for eternity. That was their destiny.

They were NOT linked to Anna Lucia, Daniel, Roussou, Alex, Miles, Lupidis, (and all the rest who weren't in the chuch -- basically everyone who wasn't in season 1). Yet those people exist in Sideways world. Why? Well again, here's where they leave it up to you to decide. The way I like to think about it, is that those people who were left behind in Sideways world have to find their own soulmates before they can wake up. It's possible that those links aren't people from the island but from their other life (Anna's parnter, the guy she shot --- Roussou's husband, etc etc).

A lot of people have been talking about Ben and why he didn't go into the Church. And if you think of Sideways world in this way, then it gives you the answer to that very question. Ben can't move on yet because he hasn't connected with the people he needs to. It's going to be his job to awaken Roussou, Alex, Anna Lucia (maybe), Ethan, Goodspeed, his father and the rest. He has to attone for his sins more than he did by being Hurley's number two. He has to do what Hurley and Desmond did for our Lostaways with his own people. He has to help them connect. And he can only move on when all the links in his chain are ready to. Same can be said for Faraday, Charlotte, Whidmore, Hawkins etc. It's really a neat, and cool concept. At least to me.

But, from a more "behind the scenes" note: the reason Ben's not in the church, and the reason no one is in the church but for Season 1 people is because they wrote the ending to the show after writing the pilot. And never changed it. The writers always said (and many didn't believe them) that they knew their ending from the very first episode. I applaud them for that. It's pretty fantastic. Originally Ben was supposed to have a 3 episode arc and be done. But he became a big part of the show. They could have easily changed their ending and put him in the church -- but instead they problem solved it. Gave him a BRILLIANT moment with Locke outside the church ... and then that was it. I loved that. For those that wonder -- the original ending started the moment Jack walked into the church and touches the casket to Jack closing his eyes as the other plane flies away. That was always JJ's ending. And they kept it.

For me the ending of this show means a lot. Not only because I worked on it, but because as a writer it inspired me in a way the medium had never done before. I've been inspired to write by great films. Maybe too many to count. And there have been amazing TV shows that I've loved (X-Files, 24, Sopranos, countless 1/2 hour shows). But none did what LOST did for me. None showed me that you could take huge risks (writing a show about faith for network TV) and stick to your creative guns and STILL please the audience. I learned a lot from the show as a writer. I learned even more from being around the incredible writers, producers, PAs, interns and everyone else who slaved on the show for 6 years.

In the end, for me, LOST was a touchstone show that dealt with faith, the afterlife, and all these big, spirtual questions that most shows don't touch. And to me, they never once waivered from their core story -- even with all the sci-fi elements they mixed in. To walk that long and daunting of a creative tightrope and survive is simply astounding.
 

Wilt Dasney

Well-Known Member
I'll just say that if the whole point we were supposed to take away is the MIB personified Evil and Jacob personified Good, then I'm even less satisfied with the show than I was before. :lol: :rolleyes:

I read some discussions after the "Across the Sea" episode (the Jacob/MIB origin story) that suggested the show was leading toward a rug pull, where we learned that Jacob and MIB didn't neatly fit the roles assigned to them.

The idea was that Jacob seemed to mindlessly follow his "mother" (the woman who murdered his real mother and seemed to slaughter a whole village because of some vague mission to "protect the light" that she never explained), while MIB asked questions and desired freedom. His most heinous act in that episode was killing a woman who had plenty of blood on her own hands.

The takeaway from the episode seemed to be causing you to question the roles we were supposed to just assume. Was Jacob really good? Was MIB really evil? Maybe the point of the show was going to be question dogma, make up your own mind, don't just accept things at face value.

But based on that post, it seems we were just supposed to conclude that yes, Jacob was the white hat and Smokey/MIB was the black hat after all. And the last few episodes seemed to confirm that, with Jacob materializing around the campfire to provide the answers and Smokey Locke becoming a cold-eyed would-be murderer. Two potentially rich and interesting characters reduced to angel and devil, with no exposition of how they got there or what happened to the ambiguities we were shown previously. Ho hum.

I like this finale less and less as time goes by. :lol:
 

k.hunter30

New Member
I was pretty frustrated with the Lost finale, until I read this article.
Supposedly written by one of the writers of Lost, this explanation makes perfect sense to me, and makes the finale seem like a better episode. It's long, but it's worth reading...
Would you please list the source of this article?
 

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