Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

[Disney Irish]

The First Amendment limits the power of government from interfering with the freedom of its citizens.

It doesn’t apply to what you said above.

Based on their follow-up posts I suspect they're being sarcastic.

 

[Disney Irish]

I’m making no predictions, just speculating! I imagine Disney isn’t pleased about her social media, even if it’s not a deal-breaker as such.

I'm sure that someone including maybe even Iger is not happy to have her back in the media for a post. But as you said its likely not a deal-breaker, and just like last time they won't likely comment much if at all on it. I just doubt they will put her on a no-hire list.

 

[Chi84]

Based on their follow-up posts I suspect they're being sarcastic.

I read them. They don’t show any sarcasm.

 

[Cliff]

The First Amendment restricts the government from using its power to interfere with the freedom of its citizens.

It doesn’t apply to what you said above.

Eggg-zactly. The defense that Burbank will try to use did not,...and will not work. That is why the California judge already told Burbank: "Nope" and were completely rejected.

I think clearly Burbank is screwed but we'll see.

Wooof,...wait till the executives get called to testify! Wow...I think Kathleen Kennedy will be whitness#1. Iger very possibly is next if Discovery shows he was in on it all.

 

[Chi84]

Eggg-zactly. The defense that Burbank will try to use did not,...will not work. That is why the California judge already told Burbank: "Nope" and were completely rejected.

I think clearly Burbank is screwed but we'll see.

Wooof,...wait till the executives get called to testify! Wow...I think Kathleen Kennedy will be whitness#1. Iger very possibly is next if Discovery shows he was in on it all.

I don’t understand what you said but I doubt Disney used a legally unavailable defense.

 

[Disney Irish]

Eggg-zactly. The defense that Burbank will try to use did not,...and will not work. That is why the California judge already told Burbank: "Nope" and were completely rejected.

I think clearly Burbank is screwed but we'll see.

Wooof,...wait till the executives get called to testify! Wow...I think Kathleen Kennedy will be whitness#1. Iger very possibly is next if Discovery shows he was in on it all.

Whether or not any of that happens, it really has nothing to do with this issue.

 

[Cliff]

I don’t understand what you said but I doubt Disney used a legally unavailable defense.

Burbank tried to fight Gina and tried to dismiss the case as baseless on the grounds of the First Amendment. Burbank tried to stop Discovery and subpoena for evidence. Gina submitted her claims and her receipts and the judge said "No....this woman DOES have a case. She clearly has standing" Disney lost that argument and evidence Discovery has begun. The case will move forward. Burbank cannot destroy evidence and they must provide ALL the evidence to the court. Gina has her own saved material to fight with.

Again,...Disney "can" fire her. That's arguably OK. It's all the "other" stuff they did that will burn the Hell out of them.

If they don't settle out of court, executives will be ordered to testify on the stand. Email servers will be copied...etc

Elon Musk's legal team is behind Gina and that means money is not a problem and they will not settle out of court. They WANT this to go to court and publicly embarrass Burbank.

There is no way to keep this private anymore.

 

[Cliff]

Now that I know who you’re talking about, I see that Disney (I guess because they’re being sued and had to speak on the matter) did in this instance explain their decision to fire her, citing her comparisons to the Holocaust. I have no idea whether that’s enough to fire someone or what the precise grounds of her complaint her, but Disney has actually gone public with the reasoning behind their decision, even though you make it seem as if they’re hiding some big secret.

Firing her is nothing. They are safe from that. Nobody is worried about that. Firing her is no big deal.

It's all the OTHER malicious stuff Burbank did to Gina that will kill them. "If" it's proven true. The judge has seen "some" of it and determined that she DOES absolutely have standing and denied Burbank's request to throw that case out.

 

[Cliff]

All that’s as may be, but what on earth does it have to do with the live-action Show White?

Sorry,..it was a tangent on my part from the comment earlier with the First Amendment.

Carry on,...as you were. ;-)

 

[Chi84]

Burbank tried to fight Gina and tried to dismiss the case as baseless on the grounds of the First Amendment. Burbank tried to stop Discovery and subpoena for evidence. Gina submitted her claims and her receipts and the judge said "No....this woman DOES have a case. She clearly has standing" Disney lost that argument and evidence Discovery has begun. The case will move forward. Burbank cannot destroy evidence and they must provide ALL the evidence to the court. Gina has her own saved material to fight with.

Again,...Disney "can" fire her. That's arguably OK. It's all the "other" stuff they did that will burn the Hell out of them.

If they don't settle out of court, executives will be ordered to testify on the stand. Email servers will be copied...etc

Elon Musk's legal team is behind Gina and that means money is not a problem and they will not settle out of court. They WANT this to go to court and publicly embarrass Burbank.

There is no way to keep this private anymore.

I don’t think you understand the posture of this case. Nothing was rejected except Disney’s attempt to dismiss at an earlier stage of the litigation.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Burbank tried to fight Gina and tried to dismiss the case as baseless on the grounds of the First Amendment. Burbank tried to stop Discovery and subpoena for evidence. Gina submitted her claims and her receipts and the judge said "No....this woman DOES have a case. She clearly has standing" Disney lost that argument and evidence Discovery has begun. The case will move forward. Burbank cannot destroy evidence and they must provide ALL the evidence to the court. Gina has her own saved material to fight with.

Again,...Disney "can" fire her. That's arguably OK. It's all the "other" stuff they did that will burn the Hell out of them.

If they don't settle out of court, executives will be ordered to testify on the stand. Email servers will be copied...etc

Elon Musk's legal team is behind Gina and that means money is not a problem and they will not settle out of court. They WANT this to go to court and publicly embarrass Burbank.

There is no way to keep this private anymore.

This is the area where I think Disney cares, Carano’s discrimination lawsuit is getting stronger by the day with each Disney employee who comes out and makes controversial statements and doesn’t get punished, from Pedro not getting punished, to last week it was the Star Wars executive, now this week it’s Zegler, who knows who it’ll be next week. Every time someone makes a controversial comment and Disney doesn’t punish them it’s just one more piece of evidence for Gina to use in her case against Disney.

As for the movie itself I don’t think it matters, they’ve already alienated half the potential audience, more controversial comments aren’t going to alienate them further, this movie already has box office disaster written all over it.

 

[Cliff]

I don’t think you understand the posture of this case. Nothing was rejected except Disney’s attempt to dismiss at an earlier stage of the litigation.

Correct,..Gina showed her case to the judge. Disney tried to say it was not valid and wanted it thrown out. The Judge looked at Gina's preliminary evidence and agreed with Gina and rejected Disney.

The case is moving forward to trial. Full Discovery from both parties is required and full evidence from both sides are being collected. Email servers, cell phone data, all communications, witnesses and parties involved are all identified and put on official notice by the court.

Gina's people will be called and Burbank's people will be called. This case will move to trial...unless Burbank tries to convince Gina and Elon Musk to settle before the court date in 2025.

I dont think Gina will take ANY money from Burbank,...not even a high amount. Elon smells blood in the water and this mess is NOT about getting Gina paid. It's about exposing what happened to the public.

 

[Cliff]

This is the area where I think Disney cares, Carano’s discrimination lawsuit is getting stronger by the day with each Disney employee who comes out and makes controversial statements and doesn’t get punished, from Pedro not getting punished, to last week it was the Star Wars executive, now this week it’s Zegler, who knows who it’ll be next week. Every time someone makes a controversial comment and Disney doesn’t punish them it’s just one more piece of evidence for Gina to use in her case against Disney.

As for the movie itself I don’t think it matters, they’ve already alienated half the potential audience, more controversial comments aren’t going to alienate them further, this movie already has box office disaster written all over it.

I "think" Burbank DID have the right to fire her. She doesn't care about "that"

It's the job harassment and Burbank's attempt to ruin her career that will give Gina the win.

Let's say you make a political tweet. Your boss hated it and tried to force you to publicly address the company to shame you and to atone for your sins. After you did that, they fire you They then called your agent forced them to drop you as a client and threaten them to never help you get another job again. Your boss then publicly shames your name online and tries to get you blacklisted in that city you live in?

Would you not feel happy about this?

This is what the judge saw and allowed Gina to move forward against Burbank.

This is not about a simple "firing" problem.

 

[Cliff]

Carano herself made multiple controversial comments before the one that got her fired. Have you considered that she may have gone too far in the company’s eyes with her Holocaust comparison, or are all controversial statements equally bad in your opinion?

Besides, I’m not sure how you’d have Disney punish Zegler at this stage: shooting is all wrapped up.

Yes!!,...Burbank CAN fire Zegler....they just can't shame her, slander her, harass her and try to ruin her career in Hollywood.

A simple cut and dry firing is no problem. It's all the OTHER stuff that makes it bad for Burbank.

 

[DKampy]

Hollywood is allowed to say whatever they want as long as it’s Pro Left. If not, you get cancelled like that actress from the Mandalorian.

Land of the Free.

Gina is free to say whatever she wants….Disney is also free to say her thoughts do not align with our beliefs….it still all falls under freedom of speech

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Carano herself made multiple controversial comments before the one that got her fired. Have you considered that she may have gone too far in the company’s eyes with her Holocaust comparison, or are all controversial statements equally bad in your opinion?

Besides, I’m not sure how you’d have Disney punish Zegler at this stage: shooting is all wrapped up.

It’ll be curious to see if they send her out on the promotional circuit, if they do then this is evidence, if they don’t you’re probably correct and Disney can say they had no other recourse since she’d already finished filming and isn’t an employee, I bet Disney wishes they’d never hired her in the first place at this point, every time the drama dies down and seems like it’s going away she finds a way to reignite it.

 

[Cliff]

Gina is free to say whatever she wants….Disney is also free to say her thoughts do not align with our beliefs….it still all falls under freedom of speech

YES, your boss has the right to fire you...but your boss does NOT have the right to attack and harass you in a dozen OTHER ways. This is why the judge allowed the case to move forward. The judge saw preliminary evidence to support Gina's claim.

The First Amendment does NOT protect you when you harass and slander that employee. No boss in ANY state is allowed to do THAT to you.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I personally don’t think her statements are as bad; they’re closer to what Carano said pre-firing. Were Zegler to compare the losing side to the Jews of Europe under Hitler, I would certainly want and expect Disney to publicly censure her.

Comparing the other side to Hitler is what Pedro did, and Disney looked the other way. That’s exhibit A.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

I think Disney knows she has gone too far. Rather than draw attention to the comments with a public repudiation, they will quietly blacklist her and that will be the end of things. It’s not like they can reshoot the whole movie without her.

 

[Cliff]

I think Disney knows she has gone too far. Rather than draw attention to the comments with a public repudiation, they will quietly blacklist her and that will be the end of things. It’s not like they can reshoot the whole movie without her.

I think that Burbank "likes" what she says. I think that Burbank helped to put those ideas in her head in the last three years.

Burbank just want's Zegler to keep those words PRIVATE amongst friends and coworkers "only"

Burbank is forced to distance themselves from the person THEY helped create because they know the PR looks bad. They know that most of the country does not think like "Hollywood" does and will frown on Zegler.