Gina is free to say whatever she wants….Disney is also free to say her thoughts do not align with our beliefs….it still all falls under freedom of speech
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Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’
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Vegas Disney Fan
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It’ll be curious to see if they send her out on the promotional circuit, if they do then this is evidence, if they don’t you’re probably correct and Disney can say they had no other recourse since she’d already finished filming and isn’t an employee, I bet Disney wishes they’d never hired her in the first place at this point, every time the drama dies down and seems like it’s going away she finds a way to reignite it.
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YES, your boss has the right to fire you...but your boss does NOT have the right to attack and harass you in a dozen OTHER ways. This is why the judge allowed the case to move forward. The judge saw preliminary evidence to support Gina's claim.
The First Amendment does NOT protect you when you harass and slander that employee. No boss in ANY state is allowed to do THAT to you.
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EricsBiscuit
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I think Disney knows she has gone too far. Rather than draw attention to the comments with a public repudiation, they will quietly blacklist her and that will be the end of things. It’s not like they can reshoot the whole movie without her.
CaptinEO
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Releasing a movie with her as the star is endorsing her even if it's indirect. They should distance themselves. I'm curious if we see a full promo press tour with Rachel in March.
Vegas Disney Fan
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I don’t think they have a choice, they’ve spent a couple hundred million, they need to try to recoup some of that money. I will be shocked if we see her on a publicity tour though, Disney knows she’s a PR disaster and the less she says the better off the box office will be. Her and Gadot together could make for some tense interviews after her free Pal comments also, I’d watch just to see the fireworks.
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Serpico Jones
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The Snow White movie has all the makings of a huge flop, right down to the extremely unlikeable lead.
Chi84
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A lot of young people love Rachel Zegler, and that’s the audience she’s going for.
I doubt many of the people taking such severe exception to her words had any plan to see the film in the first place, so no great loss there.
donaldtoo
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Indeed, true.
But, the funniest part is they actually still think they’re relevant…!!!!!
Chi84
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Hollywood is relevant to people who enjoy seeing films, and there are many who do.Indeed, true.
But, the funniest part is they actually still think they’re relevant…!!!!!
The problem is that people for some reason get far too invested in the lives and opinions of the actors.
I personally loved Gina’s character and I’m disappointed that she is no longer playing that role. But I can understand Disney wanting to disassociate themselves from the particular opinions she expressed.
Vegas Disney Fan
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I preferred when celebrities were glamorous mythical figures, social media has shown they are just as biased and flawed as the rest of us, in many cases far worse.
The “Never meet your heroes” adage has been proven correct.
Chi84
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Social media has also given them a voice that others don’t have and an oversized view of their own importance.
donaldtoo
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OK, I’m goin’ out on a limb here, because I haven’t read even remotely close to this whole thread, but (IIRC) wasn’t there someone else involved here that strongly expressed an opposing opinion to Gina’s views that no disassociation was applied to…?!
Seems like it should have been applied equally, either way.
erasure fan1
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Agreed.
That's true. That's why it's such a wonder why Disney doesn't just lock down a social media policy. Why deal with this all the time? Lucasfilm, Disney, Marvel...It's a lose lose every time. You are allowing actors to tick off half the paying population by just allowing them to do whatever they want. And it doesn't matter what side you fall on, left, right, doesn't matter. They fired Gina and ed a lot of people off. If Disney had fired Pedro instead or as well, you off the other half. And for what? Why have your movies/shows, whatever, under fire months and months before release because some celebrity feels the need spout off on social media? It seems like a funny hill to die on for a company that LOVES money.
Disstevefan1
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Zegler should be free to express her opinion.
If that's good for her career or TWDC is questionable in my opinion.
Let's see what happens.
If that's good for her career or TWDC is questionable in my opinion.
Let's see what happens.
MoonRakerSCM
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It's kind of inherent to their profession... to play characters and transport us to another world... they create the characters they play to whisk us into believing they're who they're playing.
If the actor/actress actively HATES me and wants me to suffer... And it's out there and they want it known... well... it becomes increasingly difficult to sit there and watch her play sweet little Snow White.
They can say anything they want of course... but their image to the public means more in their profession compared to many others.
That being said, when I hate dealing with a client, I don't loudly publicly shout out about it... let alone wish ill upon them.
If the actor/actress actively HATES me and wants me to suffer... And it's out there and they want it known... well... it becomes increasingly difficult to sit there and watch her play sweet little Snow White.
They can say anything they want of course... but their image to the public means more in their profession compared to many others.
That being said, when I hate dealing with a client, I don't loudly publicly shout out about it... let alone wish ill upon them.
People are acting like this is some new occurrence… it is not…Marlin Brando boycotted the 1973 Oscar’s for its portrayal of native Americans…. A few celebrities have even been arrested for their protests like Jane Fonda and Sean Penn…Crlebrites are not some mythical being… they are human as much as we are…. And deserve the same rights as us…. It is up to the audience to decide if they want to support the celebrity or not
First amendment only protects your speech from "government" action. It does not protect you from your "employer".
If Zegler used her free speech on X and posted how bad and horrible Disney was and trashed the company all over X everyday?
Yes,...any employer has the right to fire that employee. There is NO free speech protection from that action. Zeger, would of course be totally free to continue to trash Disney as a non-employee.
However, "Slander" and "defamation" is also not protected speech. You can be held liable for damages for that in court.
Disstevefan1
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I will watch SW when its "free" on streaming. I cant not see it like I can not look at a car crash as I drive by.
There were hundreds of people that worked on SW and hundreds of millions of dollars spent on creating it and marketing it.
When SW fails, Zegler will have played only a small part of that failure - in my opinion.
There were hundreds of people that worked on SW and hundreds of millions of dollars spent on creating it and marketing it.
When SW fails, Zegler will have played only a small part of that failure - in my opinion.
Vegas Disney Fan
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I agree with you for the most part, I think her issues stem from the fact many of her early controversial comments were at press events where she was officially representing Disney. She’s free to rant and rave in her personal life (to a point) without Disney having any say but when it directly affects the company they either have to place limits on what she says or completely cut ties with her if it’s damaging their brand.
Her tone changed drastically after her initial comments, which leads me to believe Disney sat down with her and asked her to portray the original Snow White in positive ways vs negative ways, and she was doing a good job of staying controversy free for a while.
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