Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

[Chi84]

The Snow White movie has all the makings of a huge flop, right down to the extremely unlikeable lead.

A lot of young people love Rachel Zegler, and that’s the audience she’s going for.

I doubt many of the people taking such severe exception to her words had any plan to see the film in the first place, so no great loss there.

 

[donaldtoo]

Thanks for the clarification, although I doubt people give Hollywood much thought one way or the other.

Indeed, true.
But, the funniest part is they actually still think they’re relevant…!!!!!

 

[Chi84]

Indeed, true.
But, the funniest part is they actually still think they’re relevant…!!!!!

Hollywood is relevant to people who enjoy seeing films, and there are many who do.

The problem is that people for some reason get far too invested in the lives and opinions of the actors.

I personally loved Gina’s character and I’m disappointed that she is no longer playing that role. But I can understand Disney wanting to disassociate themselves from the particular opinions she expressed.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Hollywood is relevant to people who enjoy seeing films, and there are many who do.

The problem is that people for some reason get far too invested in the lives and opinions of the actors.

I personally loved Gina’s character and I’m disappointed that she is no longer playing that role. But I can understand Disney wanting to disassociate themselves from the particular opinions she expressed.

I preferred when celebrities were glamorous mythical figures, social media has shown they are just as biased and flawed as the rest of us, in many cases far worse.

The “Never meet your heroes” adage has been proven correct.

 

[Chi84]

I preferred when celebrities were glamorous mythical figures, social media has shown they are just as biased and flawed as the rest of us, in many cases far worse.

Social media has also given them a voice that others don’t have and an oversized view of their own importance.

 

[donaldtoo]

Hollywood is relevant to people who enjoy seeing films, and there are many who do.

The problem is that people for some reason get far too invested in the lives and opinions of the actors.

I personally loved Gina’s character and I’m disappointed that she is no longer playing that role. But I can understand Disney wanting to disassociate themselves from the particular opinions she expressed.

OK, I’m goin’ out on a limb here, because I haven’t read even remotely close to this whole thread, but (IIRC) wasn’t there someone else involved here that strongly expressed an opposing opinion to Gina’s views that no disassociation was applied to…?!
Seems like it should have been applied equally, either way.

 

[erasure fan1]

I preferred when celebrities were glamorous mythical figures, social media has shown they are just as biased and flawed as the rest of us, in many cases far worse.

Agreed.

The problem is that people for some reason get far too invested in the lives and opinions of the actors.

That's true. That's why it's such a wonder why Disney doesn't just lock down a social media policy. Why deal with this all the time? Lucasfilm, Disney, Marvel...It's a lose lose every time. You are allowing actors to tick off half the paying population by just allowing them to do whatever they want. And it doesn't matter what side you fall on, left, right, doesn't matter. They fired Gina and ed a lot of people off. If Disney had fired Pedro instead or as well, you off the other half. And for what? Why have your movies/shows, whatever, under fire months and months before release because some celebrity feels the need spout off on social media? It seems like a funny hill to die on for a company that LOVES money.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Zegler should be free to express her opinion.

If that's good for her career or TWDC is questionable in my opinion.

Let's see what happens.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

It's kind of inherent to their profession... to play characters and transport us to another world... they create the characters they play to whisk us into believing they're who they're playing.

If the actor/actress actively HATES me and wants me to suffer... And it's out there and they want it known... well... it becomes increasingly difficult to sit there and watch her play sweet little Snow White.

They can say anything they want of course... but their image to the public means more in their profession compared to many others.

That being said, when I hate dealing with a client, I don't loudly publicly shout out about it... let alone wish ill upon them.

 

[DKampy]

I preferred when celebrities were glamorous mythical figures, social media has shown they are just as biased and flawed as the rest of us, in many cases far worse.

The “Never meet your heroes” adage has been proven correct.

People are acting like this is some new occurrence… it is not…Marlin Brando boycotted the 1973 Oscar’s for its portrayal of native Americans…. A few celebrities have even been arrested for their protests like Jane Fonda and Sean Penn…Crlebrites are not some mythical being… they are human as much as we are…. And deserve the same rights as us…. It is up to the audience to decide if they want to support the celebrity or not

 

[Cliff]

Actors are human beings like the rest of us. Restricting their right to free speech isn't a road I want to go down.

First amendment only protects your speech from "government" action. It does not protect you from your "employer".

If Zegler used her free speech on X and posted how bad and horrible Disney was and trashed the company all over X everyday?

Yes,...any employer has the right to fire that employee. There is NO free speech protection from that action. Zeger, would of course be totally free to continue to trash Disney as a non-employee.

However, "Slander" and "defamation" is also not protected speech. You can be held liable for damages for that in court.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I will watch SW when its "free" on streaming. I cant not see it like I can not look at a car crash as I drive by.

There were hundreds of people that worked on SW and hundreds of millions of dollars spent on creating it and marketing it.

When SW fails, Zegler will have played only a small part of that failure - in my opinion.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

I’m not denying that Disney as her employer can limit her right to free speech. Rather, I’m saying that’s not a road I think we should want to go down.

I agree with you for the most part, I think her issues stem from the fact many of her early controversial comments were at press events where she was officially representing Disney. She’s free to rant and rave in her personal life (to a point) without Disney having any say but when it directly affects the company they either have to place limits on what she says or completely cut ties with her if it’s damaging their brand.

Her tone changed drastically after her initial comments, which leads me to believe Disney sat down with her and asked her to portray the original Snow White in positive ways vs negative ways, and she was doing a good job of staying controversy free for a while.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I don’t think it’ll do well either, but the decent box-office performance of last year’s Hunger Games installment gives the lie to the notion that Zegler is what’s going to put people off.

I agree. Good movies do well no matter who is in it.

Bad movies that have actors we love, still do bad.

Zegler will not be the primary reason why SW fails - in my opinion.

 

[Cliff]

I don’t think it’ll do well either, but the decent box-office performance of last year’s Hunger Games installment gives the lie to the notion that Zegler is what’s going to put people off.

Burbank rarely fires people for social media posts they agree with. That action is reserved mostly for the posts and comments they disagrees with.

Zegler knows Burbank has her back

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

You mean the comments where she seemed to criticise the original film? I really hope no-one is suggesting that that’s a fireable offence! I really don't see how those remarks can be compared to her political statements online.

I wouldn’t have blamed them for firing her over those comments, disparaging the movie that literally made the company and that is beloved by their fans was not a smart move. Instead I think they handled it internally and her tone changed drastically, it was working, until it wasn’t anymore.

The bigger issue is those comments put her in a spotlight, under a microscope, prior to her controversial SW comments I didn’t even know her name, now every time she says something controversial it shows up here on the forums and will also show up somewhere on my YouTube feed, it’s the snowball affect.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Burbank rarely fires people for social media posts they agree with. That action is reserved mostly for the posts and comments they disagrees with.

Zegler knows Burbank has her back

This is a good point! For actors who posts stuff that does not align with TWDCs agenda - they are GONE.

 

[MoonRakerSCM]

And if you did, how would that work out for your career? I'm guessing like me, it would end poorly.

Bingo.

 

[Disney Irish]

I think you overestimate the impact of those comments. Some fans may care, but many don't. The public at large certainly doesn't care.

The reality is that outside of the click-bait articles that posts these things no one would hardly know what she or any other celebrity says.

 

[Farerb]

I can't wait for this movie to finally be released and this crap show can finally be over.