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Disney Irish

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Can't link her posts due to political rules but it was more than just distaste for a candidate.

I just think it's interesting as Disney usually likes a squeaky clean image (or at least they used to in the past). Guess it shows how much the company (or maybe all of entertainment) has changed.
The era of Social Media has changed the landscape of Hollywood and the entertainment industry as a whole, and really the world. The last 10-15 years or so has shown that many studios don't shy away from this stuff anymore, not even Disney. They still try to control the narrative of course, but actors/actresses are their own people essentially their own brand. The days of a studio contract where an actor/actress is tied to one studio long term and the studio controls everything are gone, and it hasn't been that way for a very long time. If an actor/actress goes too far a studio will distance themselves from them, just as Disney has done with others, but by and large they will stay out of an actor/actresses personal life including their social media posts.
 

CaptinEO

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The era of Social Media has changed the landscape of Hollywood and the entertainment industry as a whole, and really the world. The last 10-15 years or so has shown that many studios don't shy away from this stuff anymore, not even Disney. They still try to control the narrative of course, but actors/actresses are their own people essentially their own brand. The days of a studio contract where an actor/actress is tied to one studio long term and the studio controls everything are gone, and it hasn't been that way for a very long time. If an actor/actress goes too far a studio will distance themselves from them, just as Disney has done with others, but by and large they will stay out of an actor/actresses personal life including their social media posts.
Very interesting, guess a lot has changed since the days of Annette Funicello and even Hillary Duff. On one hand it's good these actors have more freedom but on another hand it can't be helping these films/brands that have so much invested already.
 

Disney Irish

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Very interesting, guess a lot has changed since the days of Annette Funicello and even Hillary Duff. On one hand it's good these actors have more freedom but on another hand it can't be helping these films/brands that have so much invested already.
In those examples you're talking about child actresses when they worked for Disney. Disney is known for being very strict with their child actors. And yes things have changed, even from 20 years ago when Hilary Duff worked for the Mouse, as there was no social media.

So there is a difference here, as we're talking about an adult actress who has more control over their own career than a child actor/actress under a Disney contract does.
 

Cliff

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The First Amendment gives Burbank the right to fire any employee who makes any public comment that Burbank feels makes the company look bad. The First Amendment also gives Burbank the right to harass that employee in ANY way they see fit. Including the ability to call business affiliates of that fired employee and harass them to not work with that fired employee any longer. The First Amendment gives Burbank the ability to publicly slander and mock that fired employee and the right to try and shut down and black-list that person's career if they deem so necessary.

Yes,..the First Amendment is THAT powerful folks. And, "your" current employer can use it against "you" in exactly the same way Burbank did to that employee they didn't like.

The First Amendment is an enormously powerful tool for employers to defend themselves and their actions with.

All good people agree on that.....right?
 

MagicHappens1971

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The First Amendment gives Burbank the right to fire any employee who makes any public comment that Burbank feels makes the company look bad. The First Amendment also gives Burbank the right to harass that employee in ANY way they see fit. Including the ability to call business affiliates of that fired employee and harass them to not work with that fired employee any longer. The First Amendment gives Burbank the ability to publicly slander and mock that fired employee and the right to try and shut down and black-list that person's career if they deem so necessary.

Yes,..the First Amendment is THAT powerful folks. And, "your" current employer can use it against "you" in exactly the same way Burbank did to that employee they didn't like.

The First Amendment is an enormously powerful tool for employers to defend themselves with.

All good people agree on that.....right?
The first amendment doesn’t do any of these things. The Bill of Rights protects you from the government. The government CAN NOT censor your speech, but your employer could. It’s that simple. Have we all passed our 6th grade civics class?
 

Cliff

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The first amendment doesn’t do any of these things. The Bill of Rights protects you from the government. The government CAN NOT censor your speech, but your employer could. It’s that simple. Have we all passed our 6th grade civics class?
Yeah,...I don't think you get what I just wrote. I'm giving you Burbank's defense. (in "their" mind)
 

Cliff

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Which employee(s) did Burbank publicly slander and mock?
The case has already been determined that she has standing. Disney lost that initial fight. Now we are in Discovery and the receipts are being collected and the people and executives involved will be called to testify on the stand.

"If" she is telling the truth and the evidence and testimony is there for all to see? She is winning and winning fast.

You can fire somebody,...no problem there. But, you can't harass them and deliberately try to ruin their career. If your current employer did that to you over a tweet? You would also have a great case against them.

Again,.."firing" you is not a problem so much. It's all the OTHER malicious stuff Burbank did that will burn them
 

Disney Irish

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I wouldn’t be surprised if Disney avoided working with her again in the future; contrary to what people are implying here, they try to skirt controversy as much as possible. But what are they to do now the filming has wrapped up? Reshoot the whole thing with a different actress? I know some here would love that, but it’s hardly realistic.
As you even mentioned though in another post they have no issues with working with actors/actresses that have controversial pasts. So while I could see them not using her again immediately for some projects, I doubt they will avoid her completely long term.
 

Disney Irish

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I’m making no predictions, just speculating! I imagine Disney isn’t pleased about her social media, even if it’s not a deal-breaker as such.
I'm sure that someone including maybe even Iger is not happy to have her back in the media for a post. But as you said its likely not a deal-breaker, and just like last time they won't likely comment much if at all on it. I just doubt they will put her on a no-hire list.
 

Disney Irish

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Eggg-zactly. The defense that Burbank will try to use did not,...and will not work. That is why the California judge already told Burbank: "Nope" and were completely rejected.

I think clearly Burbank is screwed but we'll see.

Wooof,...wait till the executives get called to testify! Wow...I think Kathleen Kennedy will be whitness#1. Iger very possibly is next if Discovery shows he was in on it all.
Whether or not any of that happens, it really has nothing to do with this issue.
 

Cliff

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Carano herself made multiple controversial comments before the one that got her fired. Have you considered that she may have gone too far in the company’s eyes with her Holocaust comparison, or are all controversial statements equally bad in your opinion?

Besides, I’m not sure how you’d have Disney punish Zegler at this stage: shooting is all wrapped up.
Yes!!,...Burbank CAN fire Zegler....they just can't shame her, slander her, harass her and try to ruin her career in Hollywood.

A simple cut and dry firing is no problem. It's all the OTHER stuff that makes it bad for Burbank.
 

DKampy

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Hollywood is allowed to say whatever they want as long as it’s Pro Left. If not, you get cancelled like that actress from the Mandalorian.

Land of the Free.
Gina is free to say whatever she wants….Disney is also free to say her thoughts do not align with our beliefs….it still all falls under freedom of speech
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Carano herself made multiple controversial comments before the one that got her fired. Have you considered that she may have gone too far in the company’s eyes with her Holocaust comparison, or are all controversial statements equally bad in your opinion?

Besides, I’m not sure how you’d have Disney punish Zegler at this stage: shooting is all wrapped up.
It’ll be curious to see if they send her out on the promotional circuit, if they do then this is evidence, if they don’t you’re probably correct and Disney can say they had no other recourse since she’d already finished filming and isn’t an employee, I bet Disney wishes they’d never hired her in the first place at this point, every time the drama dies down and seems like it’s going away she finds a way to reignite it.
 
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Cliff

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Gina is free to say whatever she wants….Disney is also free to say her thoughts do not align with our beliefs….it still all falls under freedom of speech
YES, your boss has the right to fire you...but your boss does NOT have the right to attack and harass you in a dozen OTHER ways. This is why the judge allowed the case to move forward. The judge saw preliminary evidence to support Gina's claim.

The First Amendment does NOT protect you when you harass and slander that employee. No boss in ANY state is allowed to do THAT to you.
 
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CaptinEO

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I think Disney knows she has gone too far. Rather than draw attention to the comments with a public repudiation, they will quietly blacklist her and that will be the end of things. It’s not like they can reshoot the whole movie without her.
Releasing a movie with her as the star is endorsing her even if it's indirect. They should distance themselves. I'm curious if we see a full promo press tour with Rachel in March.
 

Vegas Disney Fan

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Releasing a movie with her as the star is endorsing her even if it's indirect. They should distance themselves. I'm curious if we see a full promo press tour with Rachel in March.
I don’t think they have a choice, they’ve spent a couple hundred million, they need to try to recoup some of that money. I will be shocked if we see her on a publicity tour though, Disney knows she’s a PR disaster and the less she says the better off the box office will be. Her and Gadot together could make for some tense interviews after her free Pal comments also, I’d watch just to see the fireworks.
 
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