Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

[mickEblu]

Yes, there’s definitely something rather uncanny valley going on.

If you re going to go CGI why not make them as close to the originals as possible? They don’t have to be identical but this ain’t it. Had it been live actors than of course one would expect real people to not look exactly like the animated characters. My rule of thought is is that when you are using established source material, whether it’s for a ride or movie, people want to it to resemble what they know and love. Not sure why Hollywood and especially Disney over think this sometimes. And if you re not going to do that, then you have to make sure you are making a bad @$$ movie.

 

[LittleBuford]

If you re going to go CGI why not make them as close to the originals as possible? They don’t have to be identical but this ain’t it. Had it been live actors than of course one would expect real people to not look exactly like the animated characters. My rule of thought is is that when you are using established source material, whether it’s for a ride or movie, people want to it to resemble what they know and love. Not sure why Hollywood and especially Disney over think this sometimes. And if you re not going to do that, then you have to make sure you are making a bad @$$ movie.

I don’t agree with you there. The issue isn’t that they don’t look sufficiently close to the originals; the issue is simply that they are not well designed. Those two things are unrelated. We’ve seen plenty of significantly redesigned characters in the other remakes who look fine.

 

[mickEblu]

I don’t agree with you there. The issue isn’t that they don’t look sufficiently close to the originals; the issue is simply that they are not well designed. Those two things are unrelated. We’ve seen plenty of significantly redesigned characters in the other remakes who look fine.

I understand that’s your stance. I have two issues with them. That they aren’t designed well and the decision to make them CGI AND still not have them look anything like the dwarves. I think if you re going to animate them, expectations are that they will somewhat look like the originals. If they are designed well however and the movie is good ultimately it probably doesn’t really matter. What you can’t have is a crap movie with uncanny valley animated dwarves.

To your point Lumiere, Cogsworth etc in the live action BatB don’t look like their animated versions but it worked. Then again they re inanimate objects come to life in a live action movie. All things considered they look pretty close. With humanoids though the whole thing gets a bit trickier.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

According to the conspiracy theorists, Disney freaked out and fired the star, remade the entire movie and added dwarfs at the last minute.

Now the dwarfs don’t look close enough to the original ones, so Disney should have made a completely different movie.

Even if the dwarves were completely redone, which is pure speculation, they could have hired different live actors to play the more traditional dwarves rather than giving us poor quality animation, or delayed it longer to properly do the dwarves as Disney quality CGI. We’ve all seen the level of CGI Disney is capable of with the Lion King, the Jungle Book, the Marvel movies, etc… and this isn’t anywhere near that quality.

The scene they released so far looks like an unfinished teaser product and with several months until the release date maybe that’s the case and we’ll all be blown away by the final product, if this is the final product though it’s far below the quality Disney is capable of, and known for.

 

[WorldExplorer]

 

[CaptinEO]

Even if the dwarves were completely redone, which is pure speculation, they could have hired different live actors to play the more traditional dwarves rather than giving us poor quality animation, or delayed it longer to properly do the dwarves as Disney quality CGI. We’ve all seen the level of CGI Disney is capable of with the Lion King, the Jungle Book, the Marvel movies, etc… and this isn’t anywhere near that quality.

The scene they released so far looks like an unfinished teaser product and with several months until the release date maybe that’s the case and we’ll all be blown away by the final product, if this is the final product though it’s far below the quality Disney is capable of, and known for.

Not speculation at all:

Live-Action 'Snow White' Swaps Most 'Dwarfs' for Ordinary Randoms

New photos from the 'Snow White' movie have been released, and most of the "seven dwarfs" have grown quite a bit.

www.tmz.com

Disney initially denied these as being real then confirmed they were in fact real.

Snow White wrapped filming in July 2022.

This was originally supposed to be out holiday 2023. The poor test screenings and public backlash had them doing reshoots the last 2 years and replacing actors with CGI dwarves. Disney doesn't know what to do with the film.

As for Disney CGI, it is all outsourced (no in house CGI studio besides ILM which primarily does work for other clients (not Disney)). The Marvel and SW shows have been criticized in recent years for bad CGI as Disney is awarding contracts to the lowest bidding studios. This could be unfinished but the Little Mermaid remake also had cheap CGI.

 

[CaptinEO]

If you re going to go CGI why not make them as close to the originals as possible? They don’t have to be identical but this ain’t it. Had it been live actors than of course one would expect real people to not look exactly like the animated characters. My rule of thought is is that when you are using established source material, whether it’s for a ride or movie, people want to it to resemble what they know and love. Not sure why Hollywood and especially Disney over think this sometimes. And if you re not going to do that, then you have to make sure you are making a bad @$$ movie.

I never understood why Disney live action remakes end up looking so bland, drab, and boring. Why not use live action as a medium to bring these cartoons to life?

I really admire the old Disney cartoons and its like they continually choose to suck the life and whimsy out of their characters.

 

[Farerb]

It was recently reported that The Little Mermaid lost $5 million. Snow White will do much much worse.

 

[Ghost93]

Musically, I really like the new arrangement of Whistle While You Work and I think Zegler is going to be great as Snow White.

But the CGI Dwarves look TERRIBLE! This is like late 90s/early 2000s level of unconvincing CGI. They look worse than the Polar Express characters! They completely clash with the rest of the film. They should have just hired little people to play the roles!

 

[LittleBuford]

It was recently reported that The Little Mermaid lost $5 million.

What’s your source for this? While it was undoubtedly a box-office disappointment, I recall that it broke even.

 

[LittleBuford]

They should have just hired little people to play the roles!

Or they should have gone a completely different direction with the character designs, one that made the dwarfs look thoroughly non-human.

 

[LittleBuford]

Not speculation at all:

Live-Action 'Snow White' Swaps Most 'Dwarfs' for Ordinary Randoms

New photos from the 'Snow White' movie have been released, and most of the "seven dwarfs" have grown quite a bit.

www.tmz.com

Disney initially denied these as being real then confirmed they were in fact real.

Snow White wrapped filming in July 2022.

This was originally supposed to be out holiday 2023. The poor test screenings and public backlash had them doing reshoots the last 2 years and replacing actors with CGI dwarves. Disney doesn't know what to do with the film.

We don’t know if the dwarfs have replaced these characters. Some believe they will still be featured as Jonathan’s crew.

 

[Farerb]

What’s your source for this? While it was undoubtedly a box-office disappointment, I recall that it broke even.

Disney's Little Mermaid Plunges To $5 Million Loss

Disney's live action version of The Little Mermaid lost an estimated $4.9m at the box office as the movie's "cost exceeded the production budget" as spending surged to $355.1m.

www.forbes.com

 

[Tha Realest]

This is disgraceful. Please don't release this movie:

Finally. Disney’s first animated film is being reinvisioned for a new generation, combining live action with Polar Express like mo-cap.

 

[doctornick]

I don’t think anyone should realistically expect any remake to match its animated counterpart in quality. That hasn’t happened yet and isn’t likely to happen ever. The new dwarfs didn’t need to be anywhere near as good as the originals in order to pass muster.

IMHO “live action” The Jungle Book is superior to the animated film.

 

[doctornick]

That scene does look pretty awful. It is also disrespectful and they should have gone with real actors. Did they really feel it was THAT distasteful to cast actual people instead of CGI-ing the dwarves?

This is more or less my take. If you going to do a live action Snow White, you should be using actual Little People actors in the roles not uncanny valley CGI. I actually think it’s the right call to follow closely to the original (if they want the film to succeed) but I think the execution leaves much to be desired.

 

[LittleBuford]

Disney's Little Mermaid Plunges To $5 Million Loss

Disney's live action version of The Little Mermaid lost an estimated $4.9m at the box office as the movie's "cost exceeded the production budget" as spending surged to $355.1m.

www.forbes.com

Thanks. I wasn't aware of this.

 

[LittleBuford]

IMHO “live action” The Jungle Book is superior to the animated film.

I was referring to the quality of the artistry. Perhaps you would still deem the remake superior in that regard, but I've not seen anything that comes close to rivalling what the hand-drawn films achieved.

 

[easyrowrdw]

People complained when they thought the movie was going to be completely different from the original.

According to the conspiracy theorists, Disney freaked out and fired the star, remade the entire movie and added dwarfs at the last minute.

Now the dwarfs don’t look close enough to the original ones, so Disney should have made a completely different movie.

It’s almost as though the objections have nothing to do with the actual movie.

When the rumor was that there would be no dwarfs, people objected. Now that we are seeing the dwarfs, people are not happy with their appearance. IMO, both are reasonable objections that are directly related to the actual movie.

 

[Chi84]

When the rumor was that there would be no dwarfs, people objected. Now that we are seeing the dwarfs, people are not happy with their appearance. IMO, both are reasonable objections that are directly related to the actual movie.

Add in the people who objected to a live-action version and those who objected to an updated animated version and we’re getting closer.