Live-Action ‘Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs’

[Disney Analyst]

I am so done with this film already.

The actress seems to far up her own backside and how good she seems to rate herself and entitlement.

I am totally fine if you are not interested in the film, but I will copy my post from earlier here. Your hate towards Rachel has no basis in reality and is unhealthy.

“The narrative that has been created surrounding Rachel is so absurd, and so obviously driven by the usual suspects on the internet, to continuously rage farm and grift off that rage and drama.

She’s a very talented, and seemingly kind human being who’s gotten her big break. It’s disheartening the vitriol thrown at a younger new talent. People act as if she pushed grandma down into traffic.

It’s ridiculous. Frankly I am sick of it.”

 

[Tha Realest]

I've been following the updates pretty closely. Nothing that's been said—by Disney, by the actors, by those who attended the test screenings—gave the slightest indication that the dwarfs would be featured. Indeed, all the evidence (and I acknowledge there wasn't much of it) was to the contrary.

Now, is it possible that the Seven Dwarfs were always going to appear in some capacity, perhaps in parallel with the new "merry men"-style characters that have been much talked about? Perhaps, in which case Disney has played a very clever, and somewhat sneaky, game. But the announcement of a year-long delay together with the release of a picture showing a very traditional Snow White scene reads to me like an embarrassing pivot. I may well be wrong, in which case I'll be the first to apologise for my mistake, but I'm struggling to see how else to explain the situation.

The “How important really are the Seven Dwarfs in a live-action Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs?” is certainly A Take, may have been the prevailing view through much of the productions, and seems to continue on by a frequent poster on this very thread, but it would seem there’s been a reassessment of sorts.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

These are the bit of information I'm referring to, which don't, as far as I know, go back to that DisInsider tweet:

Interesting read, , no idea what to make of that. In the comments they also said Disney had already reshot the ending as of Aug so that makes it sound like reshoots had already happened, which adds even more mystery to the massive delay.

 

[LittleBuford]

The “How important really are the Seven Dwarfs in a live-action Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs?” is certainly A Take, may have been the prevailing view through much of the productions, and seems to continue on by a frequent poster on this very thread, but it would seem there’s been a reassessment of sorts.

I don't think the Seven Dwarfs were at all important to the film as it was (apparently) being reimagined before this latest update.

 

[LittleBuford]

Interesting read, , no idea what to make of that. In the comments they also said Disney had already reshot the ending as of Aug so that makes it sound like reshoots had already happened, which adds even more mystery to the massive delay.

I'm as baffled as you are. I just hope a decent film emerges at the end of all this.

 

[Tha Realest]

I don't think the Seven Dwarfs were at all important to the film as it was (apparently) being reimagined before this latest update.

I wasn’t attributing that argument to you- I agree they were likely the “magical creatures” or “merry men” as reflected by numerous leaks at the time.

 

[Willmark]

Haven’t all of Disney’s live action remakes used CGI? Like, heavily?

No idea, I’m pointing out the “irony” of it.

 

[LittleBuford]

I wasn’t attributing that argument to you- I agree they were likely the “magical creatures” or “merry men” as reflected by numerous leaks at the time.

Perhaps we're speaking at cross purposes, but that argument is my argument. I don't welcome the reassessment that seems to have taken place. To my mind, they should have continued without the Seven Dwarfs.

 

[_caleb]

No idea, I’m pointing out the “irony” of it.

Oh. I don’t see the irony. But maybe that’s because I’ve actually seen some (most) of Disney’s live action remakes.

Did you think “live action” meant “no CGI?” How did you imagine they did Baloo, Simba, Dumbo, Ariel, or the Genie?

 

[LittleBuford]

Oh. I don’t see the irony. But maybe that’s because I’ve actually seen some (most) of Disney’s live action remakes.

Did you think “live action” meant “no CGI?” How did you imagine they did Baloo, Simba, Dumbo, Ariel, or the Genie?

I don't think Ariel and the Genie are great comparisons given that they're still played by human beings.

 

[_caleb]

Perhaps we're speaking at cross purposes, but that argument is my argument. I don't welcome the reassessment that seems to have taken place. To my mind, they should have continued without the Seven Dwarfs.

I imagine Disney is getting used to being in the difficult position of having to ask of every production: “Do we stick with the plan and lose $150M, or do we drop an additional $150M to try to fix it and risk losing $300M?”

 

[_caleb]

I don't think Ariel and the Genie are great comparisons given that they're still played by human beings.

True. I was thinking more about how CGI makes them able to function in a “real” world (Genie’s smoke, Ariel’s fins).

 

[TP2000]

TMZ is on it, and isn't buying the "delayed due to the strike" bull.

Rachel Zegler's 'Snow White' Reboot Delayed, CGI Dwarves Swapped In

Disney appears to be doing a 180 on its approach to the live-action 'Snow White' reboot ... evidenced in their first official look of the film.

www.tmz.com

 

[Disney Irish]

TMZ is on it, and isn't buying the "delayed due to the strike" bull.

Rachel Zegler's 'Snow White' Reboot Delayed, CGI Dwarves Swapped In

Disney appears to be doing a 180 on its approach to the live-action 'Snow White' reboot ... evidenced in their first official look of the film.

www.tmz.com

They are just speculating like everyone else, this is tantamount to an opinion piece not news.

Notice how there are no insider quotes, not even anonymous ones, that indicate there was a real change.

TMZ is no better than the National Enquirer and their cover stories on Bat Boy, its fun to watch/read, but very little beyond trying to sell papers, or clicks in this case, in terms of real news.

 

[TP2000]

Pushed back to 2025? that’s (around) 1.5 years from its initial release date (from now to the projected release). It can be legitimately asked now if they are ever going to release it. It’s a strong possibility. Not saying it will happen but now in the realm of possibility.

I agree. There seems to be a real possibility that this film gets dumped onto Disney+ "for free" in 2025.

Or, it may be abandoned entirely and is never heard from again. But I'd bet two churros it just gets dumped onto Disney+ without a theatrical release.

Finally, this movie is now certainly part of a trend of films by Disney facing real headwinds and decreasing returns on investment, if it wasn’t before. It can’t be simply explained away by Disney+, the pandemic or any other number of ways. A company’s #1 job is to make money, we’ll see if Disney realizes that.

Exactly. The silver lining is that after losing over $800 Million at the box office in 2023, Disney execs finally seem to be realizing their mistakes. They are sending this movie back to the drawing board for rethinks and rewrites and refilming, and have replaced the Magical Creatures with actual Dwarves instead.

That's a good sign that Disney's studio executives are finally gaining self awareness and are course correcting.

In the end, I have no horse in this race it’s simply a very interesting saga unfolding in terms of the hows and whys of this movie.

Isn't it fascinating to watch?!? What a messy mess this thing has been for them the past few months.

I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like it, especially not from Disney who used to really run a tight ship and have their messaging and marketing together. It would be really troubling if it weren't so darn funny to watch!

 

[Tha Realest]

TMZ is on it, and isn't buying the "delayed due to the strike" bull.

Rachel Zegler's 'Snow White' Reboot Delayed, CGI Dwarves Swapped In

Disney appears to be doing a 180 on its approach to the live-action 'Snow White' reboot ... evidenced in their first official look of the film.

www.tmz.com

I actually think the photo itself is indicative of something of a rush job. It looks very much like a first draft.

 

[TP2000]

TMZ is no better than the National Enquirer and their cover stories on Bat Boy,

Bat Boy was covered extensively by the Weekly World News, not the Enquirer. That the WWN was still only in black and white in the early 90's helped immensely in its Bat Boy coverage. So creepy! I still remember just staring in awe at the supermarket checkstands at the continuing saga and latest sightings of Bat Boy, but not wanting to be seen by my neighbors picking up the paper and reading it.

Looking back on it now, I should have bought every single edition of the Weekly World News and put them in acid-free archival storage. One of the few major regrets I have about my life.

 

[Disney Irish]

Bat Boy was covered extensively by the Weekly World News, not the Enquirer. That the WWN was still only in black and white in the early 90's helped immensely in its Bat Boy coverage. So creepy! I still remember just staring in awe at the supermarket checkstands at the continuing saga and latest sightings of Bat Boy, but not wanting to be seen by my neighbors picking up the paper and reading it.

Looking back on it now, I should have bought every single edition of the Weekly World News and put them in acid-free archival storage. One of the few major regrets I have about my life.

Excuse me for getting my tabloid news rags mixed up. The point still remains, TMZ is still a tabloid nonetheless and that "article" you posted is no different than any other tabloid "story", there is no real news or scoop in it.

This whole thing on the dwarfs/magical creatures rework is still just speculation, and will likely never get real confirmation.

 

[Disney Analyst]

Excuse me for getting my tabloid news rags mixed up. The point still remains, TMZ is still a tabloid nonetheless and that "article" you posted is no different than any other tabloid "story", there is no real news or scoop in it.

This whole thing on the dwarfs/magical creatures rework is still just speculation, and will likely never get real confirmation.

Absolutely, and frankly until a movie is released, who cares?

 

[Disney Irish]

Absolutely, and frankly until a movie is released, who cares?

Agreed.