Little Mermaid Track Layout (not a question)

[TP2000]

Couldn't tell you.
Mansion at DL is supposedly (according to the internal ops manual) roughly 6:30 for a Buggy to get from a point back to that same point.
With Mansion having more track, I don't see where the 6min for TLM is coming from.

And when they say "descent" I don't believe they mean physical descent. The show scene will likely simulate a descent and ascent. (Nothing on what I have seen up to this point would indicate a major change in elevation for the ride path....but I need to look into that to be sure.)

Warning: I'm a crazy stickler for time! :lol:

Hmm... videos show Mansion takes about 7 minutes to get from Load to Unload at Disneyland Mansion, and my own wristwatch shows it around the 7 minute mark, plus or minus 5 seconds (which could be due to the amount of people on the ride at any one time).

Unless they are speeding up Mermaid's Omnimover a great deal, I can't figure out how it could be 4.5 Minutes instead of 6 Minutes.

The model of Mermaid at the Blue Sky Cellar shows a very clear downramp just past the first show scene, where the vehicles tilt backwards and the track takes a noticeable dive and goes down a curve. Just after the Ursula's Grotto scene the vehicles travel upwards to the Kiss The Girl scene. The model also shows the foundation walls built into the ground, with the track descending to a lower level for about two thirds of the ride. The change in elevation appears to be about six or eight feet, judging by the size of the vehicles and the little people in them.

From the models and sketches at the Blue Sky Cellar, this appears to be a major Omnimover attraction with changes in elevation and a long track length with 107 full-size clamshell vehicles. There is also a special wheelchair vehicle in the form of King Triton's Chariot, that takes up more than two regular clamshell vehicle spaces and includes an access ramp.

 

[Lee]

Warning: I'm a crazy stickler for time! :lol:

Hmm... videos show Mansion takes about 7 minutes to get from Load to Unload at Disneyland Mansion, and my own wristwatch shows it around the 7 minute mark, plus or minus 5 seconds (which could be due to the amount of people on the ride at any one time).

Could be true. Just going by the ops manual.

The model of Mermaid at the Blue Sky Cellar shows a very clear downramp just past the first show scene, where the vehicles tilt backwards and the track takes a noticeable dive and goes down a curve.

I haven't seen the model yet. I'm basing what I know on purely 2-d sources. I'll check it out.

 

[TP2000]

Could be true. Just going by the ops manual.


I haven't seen the model yet. I'm basing what I know on purely 2-d sources. I'll check it out.

It's a surprisingly detailed model, about five feet long by three feet deep in a lucite case, and you can walk all around it and peer into the different show scenes. I'm sure a YouTube video will surface later today, which will offer more insight for those who aren't in Anaheim to see it for themselves.

Perhaps the downramp and upramp of the Omnimover track can't make the version in Florida because of the high water table? That wouldn't be the first time the swampy nature of the land there did that to an attraction cloned from Disneyland (Pirates, Mansion, etc.)

In DCA they have dug down quite a bit into the dusty and rocky Anaheim soil. I was surprised at how deep the foundation went, as it looked like they were digging a basement level. I suppose the motors sitting below the Omnimover take up some space, but this was much deeper than that and looked like a true basement level to the big building when the foundation was going in this past winter.

Thanks for the insight Lee! These are going to be some really fun years ahead for us Disney theme park fans! :wave:

 

[FutureWorld1982]

Sorry if this has already been said, but why I saws different vehicles for our Little Mermaid attraction? If you have the new Imagineering book, you will see that our vehicles are different...
I don't know if I can post a picture from the book, because of the copyright...

 

[tirian]

It's a surprisingly detailed model, about five feet long by three feet deep in a lucite case, and you can walk all around it and peer into the different show scenes. I'm sure a YouTube video will surface later today, which will offer more insight for those who aren't in Anaheim to see it for themselves.

Perhaps the downramp and upramp of the Omnimover track can't make the version in Florida because of the high water table? That wouldn't be the first time the swampy nature of the land there did that to an attraction cloned from Disneyland (Pirates, Mansion, etc.)

In DCA they have dug down quite a bit into the dusty and rocky Anaheim soil. I was surprised at how deep the foundation went, as it looked like they were digging a basement level. I suppose the motors sitting below the Omnimover take up some space, but this was much deeper than that and looked like a true basement level to the big building when the foundation was going in this past winter.

Thanks for the insight Lee! These are going to be some really fun years ahead for us Disney theme park fans! :wave:

Don't forget that the FLE guest area is on the same elevation as the "second floor" of the MK; they can dig—and they have. Nothing has gone vertical yet, but the land prep started months ago. :wave:

 

[tirian]

Sorry if this has already been said, but why I saws different vehicles for our Little Mermaid attraction? If you have the new Imagineering book, you will see that our vehicles are different...
I don't know if I can post a picture from the book, because of the copyright...

Yes, you can. Just credit it.

 

[FutureWorld1982]

Ok, here you are the pics (all of them are copyright of the Walt Disney Company. All rights are reserved.):

You can clearly see that the vehicles are circular, but this may be only a sketch, and not the final concept of the ride...

 

[Tigerace81]

^ In Blue Sky they showed Clam Shell type vehicles

 

[tirian]

That looks like the same technology as Pooh's Hunny Hunt at TDL. I wonder if that was ever seriously considered?

 

[Tigerace81]

Well considering the book is probably older, and Blue Sky stuff is newer, I would think that Blue Sky is more accurate

 

[mikeymouse]

y wouldn't they make this a boat ride like IASW and POTC?

 

[mickey2008.1]

not as short as some people thought. 5 mins at least is not so bad. it looks pretty interesting. willnot judge until it actually happens. The original art looks like a 5-6 person ride, which makes sense for a shorter ride and more capacity.

 

[Tigerace81]

Because, boats dont sink, unless your torpedoed. And its called Ariels Undersea Adventure

 

[lazyboy97o]

Well considering the book is probably older, and Blue Sky stuff is newer, I would think that Blue Sky is more accurate

The book was just recently published. If Disney was building a significantly different attraction they would be saying just that. Those images depict an attraction that, due to the nature of the ride vehicles, would be much grander in scope.

 

[Tigerace81]

I Personally dont like those in the book. The ones from Blue Sky looked very nice.

 

[disneysroyal411]

Well considering the book is probably older, and Blue Sky stuff is newer, I would think that Blue Sky is more accurate

Blue Sky is also Disneyland. Just because they say identical doesn't mean the truth.

 

[Tigerace81]

But its the same ride, same shape, same everything, and it would be cost saving to just make the same vehicles.

 

[disneysroyal411]

Yes still very much the truth. I love how Disney gives out the story of the ride, but we are killed by the layout, building, etc. But we wouldn't have been from not knowing the story.

 

[RadioHead]

See?
Anybody not understanding what I've been saying?
:lol:

What the hell are you talking about? This looks fantastic!!!

Me and my family can't wait

 

[TP2000]

Here's a picture of the cool Little Mermaid ride model, as seen in a Mouseinfo.com update. This is the western half of the attraction, and you can see a portion of the downramp the Omnimover descends. The downramp starts just after the turn around the little show scene just past Load, and continues for about the length of about 10 clamshell ride vehicles. There's a similar upramp after Ursula's Grotto scene, before you get to the Kiss The Girl scene.

http://www.mouseinfo.com/gallery/showimage.php?i=30329&original=1

Most of the smaller show scenes have roofs over them on this model, and you sort of have to walk around the entire model to peek inside the scenes to see what is going on. Only the big Under The Sea musical production number in the middle of the ride, and the last two mid-sized show scenes, are totally revealed. That's why I'm hoping a good YouTube walk-around video of this nifty model shows up soon, for those who aren't in SoCal and can't get to DCA's wonderful Blue Sky Cellar preview center to peek through this model themselves.

And I'll ask again... Why doesn't the Fantasyland Expansion project have a preview center???

Lots of other good Little Mermaid ride pics of clamshell vehicles and animatronics at this update, from the newly updated Blue Sky Cellar video on a huge 100 inch plasma TV. http://www.mouseinfo.com/forums/dca...-sky-cellar-updated-again-june-11-2010-a.html

I poured through this new Blue Sky Cellar updated exhibit tonight myself, before I saw the 11:15PM showing of World of Color, which left me speechless!

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