Little Mermaid Clone a Go! (Maybe)

Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member
I'm just going to throw this out there about the concept behind doing a Beauty and the Beat dark ride. While many may think "Disney Renaissance"=great ride, let me just put out a few points.

Why Beauty and the Beast? What potential does this movie have to work in a dark ride setting? The other attractions of this kind have a simple concept/narrative to either take you to an exotic place (Neverland, Toonotwn, Wonderland) and/or be chased and pursued by a villain (Witch, Monstro, cops in Mr. Toad).

Beauty and the Beast doesn't really have an exotic environment outside the Beast's castle and it's villain isn't the type to jump out at you and scare you. The spooky castle setting is already in Snow White and is not exclusive to Beast, so why use it? Sleeping Beauty has it's fair share of eerie environments, monsters (Maleficent's Goons, dragon) and a kind of dynamic pageantry to capture you attention quickly, which is important for this kind of attraction. There's hardly any frenetic pacing that could be used from Beast to base a ride on without sacrificing some key character from the movie. You could be chased by wolves in a wood, but surely someone would complain about a lack of Belle.

You could do a medley of songs, but is that really good for such a short attraction? Since the songs are a major part of Beast's appeal, would it not be better to have the movie represented on a stage where you can hear and see them in full?

Of course this movie could just have been chosen because Belle is in the prince$$ line and she can sell merch, but Snow White already is and Aurora's movie would work so much better as a darkride (heck, Jasmine's would too). Worse still, this movie could have been chosen because it's less scary and Fantasyland is going in a direction where fluffy girly stuff is more important than the adventurous side of fairy tales. Ick.

If we do get a separate Snow White ride, it still won't solve whatever problems Beast might have as a ride. Not all movies translate well to this kind of attractions and below is a list of movies that IMO would work so much better in this setting, and have been proposed before:

Mary Poppins
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow
Babes in Toyland
Sleeping Beauty
Alice in Wonderland
Aladdin
The Black Cauldron
Hercules
The Great Mouse Detective
Fantasia
Pinocchio
Enchanted
Bedknobs and Broomstciks

Still think Beauty and the Beast is the best?
 

EPCOT Explorer

New Member
I'm just going to throw this out there about the concept behind doing a Beauty and the Beat dark ride. While many may think "Disney Renaissance"=great ride, let me just put out a few points.

Why Beauty and the Beast? What potential does this movie have to work in a dark ride setting? The other attractions of this kind have a simple concept/narrative to either take you to an exotic place (Neverland, Toonotwn, Wonderland) and/or be chased and pursued by a villain (Witch, Monstro, cops in Mr. Toad).

Beauty and the Beast doesn't really have an exotic environment outside the Beast's castle and it's villain isn't the type to jump out at you and scare you. The spooky castle setting is already in Snow White and is not exclusive to Beast, so why use it? Sleeping Beauty has it's fair share of eerie environments, monsters (Maleficent's Goons, dragon) and a kind of dynamic pageantry to capture you attention quickly, which is important for this kind of attraction. There's hardly any frenetic pacing that could be used from Beast to base a ride on without sacrificing some key character from the movie. You could be chased by wolves in a wood, but surely someone would complain about a lack of Belle.

You could do a medley of songs, but is that really good for such a short attraction? Since the songs are a major part of Beast's appeal, would it not be better to have the movie represented on a stage where you can hear and see them in full?

Of course this movie could just have been chosen because Belle is in the prince$$ line and she can sell merch, but Snow White already is and Aurora's movie would work so much better as a darkride (heck, Jasmine's would too). Worse still, this movie could have been chosen because it's less scary and Fantasyland is going in a direction where fluffy girly stuff is more important than the adventurous side of fairy tales. Ick.

If we do get a separate Snow White ride, it still won't solve whatever problems Beast might have as a ride. Not all movies translate well to this kind of attractions and below is a list of movies that IMO would work so much better in this setting, and have been proposed before:

Mary Poppins
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow
Babes in Toyland
Sleeping Beauty
Alice in Wonderland
Aladdin
The Black Cauldron
Hercules
The Great Mouse Detective
Fantasia
Pinocchio
Enchanted
Bedknobs and Broomstciks

Still think Beauty and the Beast is the best?

Good post. I've often said the same thing...


...If anything...We should get what DL has. Cloning I can believe in!:lol::lookaroun
 

Animaniac93-98

Well-Known Member
Is Babes in Toyland available on DVD?

Yes, and its a glorious poorly restored open-matte/pan-and-scan (mostly the first) video master without any bonus features! But like most catalog Disney live action titles given that treatment, you either buy it or don't watch it.

The Wonderful World of Color episode use to promote the film called "Back Stage Party" is on the Walt Disney Treasures set "Your Host Walt Disney".

The soundtrack album is available on the itunes store and was given a great restoration, go fig.
 

RoRo

New Member
I'm just going to throw this out there about the concept behind doing a Beauty and the Beat dark ride. While many may think "Disney Renaissance"=great ride, let me just put out a few points.

Why Beauty and the Beast? What potential does this movie have to work in a dark ride setting? The other attractions of this kind have a simple concept/narrative to either take you to an exotic place (Neverland, Toonotwn, Wonderland) and/or be chased and pursued by a villain (Witch, Monstro, cops in Mr. Toad).

Beauty and the Beast doesn't really have an exotic environment outside the Beast's castle and it's villain isn't the type to jump out at you and scare you. The spooky castle setting is already in Snow White and is not exclusive to Beast, so why use it? Sleeping Beauty has it's fair share of eerie environments, monsters (Maleficent's Goons, dragon) and a kind of dynamic pageantry to capture you attention quickly, which is important for this kind of attraction. There's hardly any frenetic pacing that could be used from Beast to base a ride on without sacrificing some key character from the movie. You could be chased by wolves in a wood, but surely someone would complain about a lack of Belle.

You could do a medley of songs, but is that really good for such a short attraction? Since the songs are a major part of Beast's appeal, would it not be better to have the movie represented on a stage where you can hear and see them in full?

Of course this movie could just have been chosen because Belle is in the prince$$ line and she can sell merch, but Snow White already is and Aurora's movie would work so much better as a darkride (heck, Jasmine's would too). Worse still, this movie could have been chosen because it's less scary and Fantasyland is going in a direction where fluffy girly stuff is more important than the adventurous side of fairy tales. Ick.

If we do get a separate Snow White ride, it still won't solve whatever problems Beast might have as a ride. Not all movies translate well to this kind of attractions and below is a list of movies that IMO would work so much better in this setting, and have been proposed before:

Mary Poppins
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow
Babes in Toyland
Sleeping Beauty
Alice in Wonderland
Aladdin
The Black Cauldron
Hercules
The Great Mouse Detective
Fantasia
Pinocchio
Enchanted
Bedknobs and Broomstciks

Still think Beauty and the Beast is the best?

I agree Sleeping Beauty would make a nice dark ride.
 

The Conundrum

New Member
Yes, and its a glorious poorly restored open-matte/pan-and-scan (mostly the first) video master without any bonus features! But like most catalog Disney live action titles given that treatment, you either buy it or don't watch it.

The Wonderful World of Color episode use to promote the film called "Back Stage Party" is on the Walt Disney Treasures set "Your Host Walt Disney".

The soundtrack album is available on the itunes store and was given a great restoration, go fig.

Thanks. I'll try to rent it from the library or netflix
 

juan

Well-Known Member
it seems that projects that are more easily to be reproduced are more likely to occur

:lookaroun:lookaroun:lookaroun:lookaroun:lookaroun

im not stating the obvious
 

IWant2GoNow

Well-Known Member
Not all movies translate well to this kind of attractions and below is a list of movies that IMO would work so much better in this setting, and have been proposed before:

Mary Poppins
The Legend of Sleepy Hollow
Babes in Toyland
Sleeping Beauty
Alice in Wonderland
Aladdin
The Black Cauldron
Hercules
The Great Mouse Detective
Fantasia
Pinocchio
Enchanted
Bedknobs and Broomstciks

Still think Beauty and the Beast is the best?

What about a "Sword in the Stone" dark ride? How about showing that little boys can grow up to be kings, as well as girls grow to be princesses? I think this would make an awesome dark ride as they could recreate the wizards' duel scene towards the end. :sohappy:
 

yeti

Well-Known Member
Is the Pinocchio ride at Disneyland any good?

It's nothing we need to cry over not having.

And as for the two Nemo rides, they really are quite different, but considering we have a better finale (Nemo and friends swimming with real fish), better queue, we don't have to crane our necks to see the ride, and ours has some decent AAs as well, yeah I'd say ours is better.

But, opinions are opinions.
 

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