And yeah....EPCOT is going to have nothing, save for a tree this year.
Busch Gardens does better!
No, they will have 2 trees and a choir. That makes it worth it.
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Lights of Winter not being displayed this year (2009)!?!
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No, they will have 2 trees and a choir. That makes it worth it.
Agreed. Complete and total BS used as lamo excuses to cover some exec's poor decision-making ability.
Granted those lights are expensive to run. They are incandescent bulbs in a series IIRC. But they had a whole year to plan and build an updated replacement with cheaper LEDs.
Methinks management is showing more of its poor skills this year. I've been hearing a lot of grumbling from CMs about the poor managers over there. I'm beginning to believe we have a serious problem.
Disney Corp needs to restructure their management team at WDW. The bean counters will drive away an already dwindling crowd by killing the show.
TimNRA757
Member
Now that I think about it, this is more upsetting than 20K. I was only in kindergarten when 20K closed and that's easy to just blame on Eisner screwing things up as usual. For this to happen now with him gone is most upsetting.
I don't know that anyone has blamed WDI other than somehow not coming up with tech that would work. I think everyone is readily admitting this is cutting costs and coming from TDO, not WDI.
Now I see someone quote and and edit. I think it was WDI at first and then changed to TDO maybe.
EpcoTim
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How do you find that?
ariels twin
New Member
That would realy stink if they didn't but them up
raven
Well-Known Member
There is a tree at the entrance of Garden Grill as well as a small tree by the payphones near the exit of Circle of Life on the lower level. These were there on Monday night but more decorations may have been added now.
It is now confirmed by Disney thermselves that the Lights of Winter will not be shown.
http://www.wdwmagic.com/Attractions...t-on-the-cancellation-of-Lights-of-Winter.htm
EPCOT Explorer
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twin, they are not...
@DisneyParks You regard, or lack there of, for your consumers is dastardly, too. Confirming something on Twitter? At least be professional
:lookaroun
EPCOTExplorer on Twitter, BTW, if you want to join in on the Tweeting/Retweeting fun.:lookaroun
@DisneyParks You regard, or lack there of, for your consumers is dastardly, too. Confirming something on Twitter? At least be professional
:lookaroun
EPCOTExplorer on Twitter, BTW, if you want to join in on the Tweeting/Retweeting fun.:lookaroun
hpyhnt 1000
Well-Known Member
I think I edited that quote just as you posted... (look at what you quoted) :lookaroun
Originally I did have WDI, but then realized right after I posted that they are not to blame here.
TDO is definitely responsible.
hpyhnt 1000
Well-Known Member
Yeah, sorry about that!
I realized right after I posted I was blaming the wrong people. I tried to be quick about editing but I wasn't fast enough. :lol:
krankenstein
Well-Known Member
And, as a result, we shall rain down fire upon TDO like they have never seen or heard before!!!!!!
No, they upgraded the Osborne lights a year or so ago because they have a sponsor and without the lights there wouldn't be much reason to go to the Studios during the holidays.
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
My favorite Tweet thus far from our own SweetMagic :
RT @Sweetrock5: @DisneyParks So, wait... outdated technology... AT EPCOT CENTER?!? Oh my.
:lol::sohappy:
:RT @Sweetrock5: @DisneyParks So, wait... outdated technology... AT EPCOT CENTER?!? Oh my.
:lol::sohappy:
http://disneyparks.disney.go.com/bl...-blog-weekly-recap-3/comment-page-4/#comments
The posts are climbing too, I am glad about that. For some reason, this has hit me harder than anything Disney has done - and it bothers me that they weren't even going to say anything, like the Lights of Winter had never even happened. You can't pull people in emotionally (which is how Disney has built it's business) and then expect them not to notice when you remove something that has special meaning to so many. Epcot will never be the same for me without the lovely canopy of lights that connects Future World and World Showcase. And it really has made me think about how much has been taken away over the years (even though Disney has added some things as well, more has disappeared).
PalisadesPkteer
Active Member
Just joined Twitter and put in 2 tweets about not having LoW.
Without LoW I think I will go to Sea World or Uni on this upcoming trip.
Not going to let them get away with this one...
Without LoW I think I will go to Sea World or Uni on this upcoming trip.
Not going to let them get away with this one...
Yes basically they do. Both the Lights of Winter and the Osbornes are a series of light bulbs (either regular bulbs or LED), connected in groups (channels) to a controller. The controller then uses timecode (like a musical score) to turn on and off (or dim), the channels at specific times. This gives the moving light effect.
If they had a desire to do so, running the Lights of Winter would not be an issue.
TalkingHead
Well-Known Member
Seems they also used to have garland/wreaths around the inside. I realize garland is probalby harder to install than a tree. You can set a tree up and you're good to go. Garland requires a little more effort. Perhaps that's why they no longer do it (or didn't last year IIRC).
Point is, the loss of LoW is a big blow to the festive atmosphere that Disney used to excel at creating. It used to be when you went to WDW at Xmas you knew you were going to see the parks in a "special" mode. The lights on the Castle are obviously a great "plus", but look at what's been lost, too. Country Bears Xmas Show, MK's Xmas Parade, LoW, decorations, etc.
It just seems like for the average day guest who isn't willing to shell out extra money for MVMCP and reserved seating for CP, the offerings are becoming more and more limited, and that makes the parks during the Xmas season seem less and less special.
EPCOT Explorer
New Member
Can I just go up there and assemble them myself?:lookaroun