News Lasseter taking leave of absence

[EPCOTCenterLover]

I don't know what to say except that I'm so sorry it happened to you. You didn't deserve any of it and none of it was your fault, no matter what happened and what the details are. It is never ever the victims fault. The only way I know of to truly heal is to do that one thing that is the absolute hardest thing anyone could ask of you and that is to forgive the person that hurt you. Not for them, but for you. If you believe in God, pray that He will give you the power to forgive him. Either way, if you haven't gone through counseling/therapy, no matter how long ago it happened, I would highly recommend it. It truly breaks my heart to think about how many people go through this everyday. Surround yourself with people who you love and who love you and help everyone you can. There is personal healing that comes with helping others.

So so true! Wish I could like this times 100! And let me add that forgiving doesn't mean you have to let people back in your life. It's a case by case basis. They took the actions which they were willing to give up relationship for.

 

[bclane]

Thank you. Thankfully, it was a very long time ago and I am a much stronger woman today.

I can tell!

 

[WDW1974]

Somehow.. even with this subject.. CNN had to find a way to make it about Trump.

Sorry, just had to express my surprise at that.

And I still find myself sicked and saddened that there are women out there who support serial offenders such as Trump.

Sorry, just had to express my (lack of) surprise at that.

#fakenews

 

[WDW1974]

Wrong, again. At least 10 women have accused him of similar behavior.

Tread lightly on this topic here, lots of enablers who would support this piece of excrement no matter what he did or does.

And, unlike John Lasseter -- who isn't coming back, there isn't a family friendly, squeaky clean image to uphold with the WH resident. He never pretended to be anything other than what he was. The people who support him, support all sorts of repugnant activity. They probably think Roy Moore is just swell too!

 

[WDW1974]

Most of your posts end up in debate and "all knowing posts", nothing new here. I'm not sure how it's not exhausting to you.

Probably drinks a lot and has a job where you can sit online all day and get paid. And complains about lazy poor people at the same time too! Just a thought!

 

[WDW1974]

We have nothing to lump Trump to these men.. it has nothing to do with political bias.
If settlements are now socially accepted admissions of guilt- where are they?

It was a junk portion of the article that shouldn’t have been written in.. but alas, they must appeal to the masses. That’s why I think it was worthless. There’s enough bad going on.. let’s focus on that.. let journalist keep uncovering it.. but no need for that kind of lumping and speculation.

Well, there are his own recorded words. But I guess since he is a serial liar as well, you assume he was lying about the acts he committed. Locker room talk, right?

 

[bclane]

So so true! Wish I could like this times 100! And let me add that forgiving doesn't mean you have to let people back in your life. It's a case by case basis. They took the actions which they were willing to give up relationship for.

Amen! I couldn’t agree more with you. My daughter forgives her attacker. So now, while she doesn’t want him to die in a fiery car crash or something (at least most of the time) she never ever wants to see him again and probably never will want to. And that is 100% ok. Forgiving him was for her, not him. It has been a process of letting go and moving on with her life and while this process will likely be a lifelong journey, at least I know that she is finding peace in that process.

 

[WDW1974]

That is a shame. I know that with regards to my own daughter, we initially had her meet with a psychiatrist a couple times and then two different psychologists but she rejected counseling altogether. She just refused and we were basically told that the best thing for her, regarding professional counseling, would be to to just make sure she knew that it was available to her if she ever decided that she wanted it. We did report everything to the police, but that turned out to be a nightmare, and I think it may actually have something to do with why she has always refused counseling. Long story, but the normal people that dealt with sex crimes against children were not in the building at the time we were at the police station and the person that did interview my daughter made us wait in a different room while they did it, even though she was screaming bloody murder for us the whole time. That whole experience definitely made her fear the police station for a really long time. Fortunately we were able to easily get a restraining order to keep her attacker away, but then his family retaliated by trying to bring charges and a restraining order against me for supposedly making death threats against their son (which I did not do) and they managed to turn a bunch of my friends from church against us for a time until the guy publicly admitted everything. What a nightmare. Anyway, that is part of the reason I will ALWAYS give the victim the benefit of the doubt.

I am very sorry. Clearly, you had a horrible incident in your family that I missed reading here.

I will only add that no one knows what it is like to be a victim until they are. I was the victim of violence, not the sexual type, and it really messed with my mind for years ... to some extent, it still does, as the police didn't believe me at first.

We love to blame victims in this country. But that also has to do with the fact the people have almost no say in what goes on (see: tonight's grotesque Senate side show). Human lives don't matter to our President and most of our politicians and that is ultimately our fault. They haven't been forced to do their jobs and work for us for a very, very long time. But I digressed. It takes a lot of courageous to place personal pain out on a forum, especially one where all minds are not created equal. You have my respect.

 

[WDW1974]

Bryan Singer leaves production on his latest film under mysterious circumstances.
https://www.indiewire.com/2017/12/b...emian-rhapsody-production-stopped-1201903196/

This is what I popped in tonight for, but some other posts were too rich to miss.

I wonder if Goddard or Spacey turned on him ... or if it just was catching up.

 

[bclane]

I am very sorry. Clearly, you had a horrible incident in your family that I missed reading here.

I will only add that no one knows what it is like to be a victim until they are. I was the victim of violence, not the sexual type, and it really messed with my mind for years ... to some extent, it still does, as the police didn't believe me at first.

We love to blame victims in this country. But that also has to do with the fact the people have almost no say in what goes on (see: tonight's grotesque Senate side show). Human lives don't matter to our President and most of our politicians and that I should ultimately our fault. They haven't been forced to do their jobs and work for us for a very, very long time. But I digressed. It takes a lot of courageous to place personal pain out on a forum, especially one where all minds are not created equal. You have my respect.

Thank you Spirit.

 

[WDW1974]

I know how you feel. In discussing Lauer's firing with my daughter on Wednesday, she finally told me she was raped at gunpoint...at the age of 13. The guy told her he knew where she lived and he's kill us all if she told. This was around the time my mother died and I attributed her problems with that - she and my mom were very close. We even went to counseling because she was having problems and clearly depressed. Which I thought was grief over my mom's death. She never confided to the therapist what happened. But she finally, on her own, years later, saw a therapist. Thank God.

The guilt I fell that 1) I couldn't protect my daughter from this monster and 2) I didn't recognize what was really going on with her has resulted in several sleepless nights. It took all my self control to not crash the car when she told me - I was that shocked, upset and angry, at him and me.

So not only was I assaulted as a 19 year old college freshman, I find out my daughter was raped..at gunpoint. Yes, people, it's that pervasive.....

Nah, you both are probably just making it up. Just like all the accusers for Lasseter ... and Goddard ... and Moore ... and Spacey ... and Weinstein ... and Cosby ... and Lauer and etc etc etc. And TRUMP!

Seriously, I don't even know what to say beyond I am so sorry this happened to your daughter and I am glad she sought help. Plenty of victims never come forward, again due to this blame the victim bull$hit mentality, and just kill themselves one day without anyone ever knowing why. Our society is so far gone ...

 

[WDW1974]

I know who he was referring to. It's the "people need to follow through with their accusations or there will be no change" that I'm objecting to. Many try. As we have learned, they're not believed.

When they aren't often believed with a priest or soccer coach or neighbor, imagine what happens when dealing with a Hollywood heavyweight or politician. You have an issue with a Weinstein or a Lasseter and Bob Iger, who heads the world' largest media and entertainment company, is protecting them. What chance do you really have? Ask Kim Masters how easy it is to go up against Bob and Zenia and then come back and blame the victims.

And if the accusations are that bad, or you have physical proof, you likely will walk away with a seven figure pay day for not causing an issue. JUst sign that NDA when you endorse the check. I can't blame victims who do that at all, either.

Ultimately, if people at the top had a zero tolerance policy, none of this would be needed, but they don't. It would be great if this scandal eventually forced out someone like Iger. Maybe then there would be real change in the way these things are handled.

 

[WDW1974]

Amen! I couldn’t agree more with you. My daughter forgives her attacker. So now, while she doesn’t want him to die in a fiery car crash or something (at least most of the time) she never ever wants to see him again and probably never will want to. And that is 100% ok. Forgiving him was for her, not him. It has been a process of letting go and moving on with her life and while this process will likely be a lifelong journey, at least I know that she is finding peace in that process.

My guess is it is different for people. Some can forgive while never forgetting. Some will never forgive while trying to forget. And pretty much every stop in between. Everyone is wired differently.

I, personally, don't think I could ever forgive, but I am not forgiving about much, if it is serious and damaging to me or my loved ones.

 

[WDW1974]

Thank you Spirit.

No, thank you!

 

[bclane]

My guess is it is different for people. Some can forgive while never forgetting. Some will never forgive while trying to forget. Ad pretty much every stop in between. Everyone is wired differently.

I, personally, don't think I could ever forgive, but I am not forgiving about much, if it is serious and damaging to me or my loved ones.

Very true. We all deal with things differently and that is completely normal. I envy people who seem to be able to just just let things go. I wish I was one of them. However you are dealing with what happened to you personally, I hope you find peace with it Spirit.

 

[seascape]

And I still find myself sicked and saddened that there are women out there who support serial offenders such as Trump.

Sorry, just had to express my (lack of) surprise at that.

#fakenews

The same goes to those who voted for Clinton both times. There were many women who came forward about Clinton in the 1990's that were trashed by the media we now know were also engaged in sexually attacking women.

Anyone who wants to go after either Trump or Clinton and not both is a biased person and wrong. All the stories about Trump were there about Clinton well before he was elected president.

 

[bclane]

The same goes to those who voted for Clinton both times. There were many women who came forward about Clinton in the 1990's that were trashed by the media we now know were also engaged in sexually attacking women.

Anyone who wants to go after either Donald Trump or Bill Clinton and not both is a biased person and wrong. All the stories about Trump were there about Clinton well before he was elected president.

I didn’t vote for Bill Clinton or for Donald Trump and I agree with you that Clinton should not get a free pass just because he was/is more supportive of women’s rights or was/is a more likeable person than Trump or whatever other reasons are out there that tries to justify why he isn’t lumped into the same group as the rest of the guilty.

Having said that, I don’t believe it is helpful to go after people who voted for either of them. People cast their votes for a plethora of reasons. The article that was posted in here that started this specific aspect of the conversation was about women who enable men to get away with continuing to sexually assault others, and some do this even when they know/suspect that their is truth to the allegations. Anyway, it is a complicated subject. Sometimes people have a really hard time believing that someone who has never harmed them could harm others. People are truly ignorant for many different reasons. But certainly when there is no ignorance and someone tries to cover up for someone they know is guilty, there is a serious issue and their should be real consequences for doing that...imo.

Edit: I have no idea what those consequences should be because I'm sure there are a million reasons why a person might try and cover something up (greed, fear, familial loyalty, etc. etc. etc.) but I think it is a topic in need of much more discussion.

 

[The Empress Lilly]

And this is the exact line that I don’t think we should cross when assigning guilt of sexual assault.

Are there a lot of “rich powerful men” who are womanizers? Yes.
Does that make them all guilty of sexual assault? No.

I said something similar in another thread.. we can’t go crazy with the guilt assignment.
If we link womanizing..or even the creepy ‘sugar daddys’ as Men who are Assaulting Women.. then what are we saying to the women who are actual victims of assault, rape, or harassment, by no choice of their own?

We can’t water down the meaning of words.
The words- Sexual Discrimination. Sexual Harassment. Sexual Assault. Rape.
These consist of such a depth of malice and damage. IMO it’s an insult to the victims of any of those situations to lump them all together. Until men and women know the difference then the seriousness of them will still be downplayed, as it has been for so long.

Yes. Being a victim of molestation or intimidation is not the same as being a gold digger or women who let themselves be grabbed by their 'chatelette' by men with money and fame or models willfully becoming America's First Escort. The whole minefield is that there is a full spectrum of behaviour. And depending on one's appreciation of power structures and gender roles you can see a victim where another sees a powerful sel-assured woman.
Sadly, victims get accused of being a willful actor because of this, and, less dramatic, women are being erased from their achievements because they are described as only ever passize victims.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

Sometimes I think we don't forget because our memory acts as a protection against future violations. For me, and not to push this, the growing forgiveness and peace comes from my giving it to Jesus. I don't have it on my own. For their protection, I won't mention who in my family was abused or by whom or how (because my blog is public), but it took a work of of God to restore health and peace for them and our family.

 

[Kman101]

Maybe I don't watch enough news channels, I can't stomach much news anymore, but this didn't seem to really gain any media traction, IMO. No one's really talking about this aside from the Disney community and some articles.