iheartdisney91
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bummer, well thanks for your help!:wave:
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It's official: Wand is GONE !!!!
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bummer, well thanks for your help!:wave:
Are you seriously calling Captain EO a classic attraction?
Soarin is a GREAT attraction. Don't get me wrong. I love it. But you can't call it an 'EPCOT' attraction when its from DCA.
Test Track ... I thought TT was one of those things that destroyed EPCOT by removing WoM? Are we going to change that argument now? Its also my least favorite attraction on property, so I won't admit that it fits ANY theme, and I wish a sinkhole would open so it would have to close, ala Horizons. But I can say that it is the least educational pavilion to me. It was hardly impressive when it opened, and its far less now.
M:S is edutaining, but it was really the first attraction that a large portion of people could not experience at Epcot. That means it didn't have the same 'spirit' as the other attractions.
Lasseter and Jobs are running the show, not Iger. He's still a puppet, just not Eisner's. Which is worse? Time will tell.
CaribbeanGreen
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Champion, I'd be curious to hear your opinion on T:T and why it lacks as an attraction at Epcot. It seems to be a pretty hot button attraction as far as people feeling strongly one way or the other, and I'm interested as to what puts you strongly in the "nay" camp.
MickeyJman06
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SDav10495
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After reading through the whole thread, and being at times as perplexed as you are about some posters' over-the-top expressions of joy, I'm still compelled to ask...why should we care whether or not it's "100% fine" with you any more than you care about why people are so thrilled with the news? This isn't a "let people be happy" post; I just think you're really going after a non-issue.
Though I understand what you're trying to say, step back for a second and review what you've added to the thread so far...different people gave different reasons for wanting the wand down, yes, but I fail to see how it matters at all who is really "right" about Epcot's future. It was fine for your first post, maybe your second--it was your unique "thesis" and it added another level of discussion to this one-note thread. But after a while, amid your ceaseless attempts to back that thesis up, it got to the point where it was really nothing to argue. It's true that some people wanted the wand down to improve Epcot's aesthetics. It's also true that some wanted it down to bring back Epcot's original theme. And...that's it, really. Whether or not the latter will actually happen makes for some interesting discussion, but I hardly see how one can say "it's never going to happen and I'm not 100% fine until everybody acknowledges that." It's fine to observe once or twice that the wand's removal is unlikely to change the park's content, but to keep going after it as if it's a real argument? Come on. You say you just don't want people to be "disappointed" when there's no great and awesome second coming of EPCOT Center. But after all these posts it seems like you're just searching for something to shoot down.
Not that I'm always a cheerleader of yours, but in the past you have at least challenged general opinion in a more or less substantive way. I gotta say, though, I'm not sure there's much to this "issue" you're tackling here... :shrug:
What do you mean I can't? there is no rule that states such. Like I said if they cloned Stormrider from Tokyo Disneysea that would fit fine and be an "Epcot" attraction. "Epcot attraction" just refers to a certain style of attraction.
wait what?? I would never in my life say TT is a good attraction where did you read me saying that? All I said is that its from the same era that brought us Journey and Ellen...an era which is entering its twilight now. TT sucks and World of Motion was a far superior attraction. They would have been smarter to make Test Track a second attraction in the pavillion and update WOM with new scenes and special effects instead of going the cheap route.
your right...but like I said its in that same late 90s/early 00s era of attractions that were just poorly concieved from the getgo.
You make this sound like its a bad thing. Micheal Eisner was a money hungry idiot. He was a bigmouth with very few good ideas...after Frank Wells died and Katzenberg left quality literally sank almost instantly at disney...eisner lucked out by making a deal with rising star pixar which tehy used as a lifesupport system along with cheap disney sequels.
John Lasseter is a disney geek at heart and hes smart too. He directed some of the most popular and beloved films of all time but he holds no bias. This guy is a straight up nerd who likes everything from japenese anime to classic disney to theme parks, etc. etc. He is a nerd who was lucky enough to get into the big leagues and now he has a chance to really turn the Walt Disney company around and restore alot of the luster and prestige it has lost over the years.
and Steve Jobs? the man is a modern visionary. A national treasure. No wonder the Iphone has taken off and Ratatouille is one of their best movies to date...this guy knows quality and knows how to market the hell out of a quality product. He is a scientist, an inventor, and a smart businessman very much like Walt Disney himself. It is an honor for Disney to have him on the Board of Directors.
These guys are still in business to make money but they are going to make products that will appeal to everyone from disney geeks to the average consumer and the products are going to be real disney quality.
imagineer boy
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*gets out popcorn*
sillyspook13
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But... I thought it was MY birthday present!
I guess I'll be nice and share the awesomeness...
Enderikari
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In the words of my heroes, Scruffy...
Second
or, in internet speak, QFT.
It didn't take much to start the internet fan-boys from declaring that Jim MacPhee is the savior of all Epcot-kind, did it? Just think in a couple of years, people will be lambasting him for some decision that he made (or didn't make) without consulting the board-going public first...Ghostbuster626 said:
Well played Jim, and I hope for a bright future, but just remember, these board folks are quick to turn, fickle, and get vicious when they don't get exactly their way (re: LaL, the above-mentioned AA family attractions and immersive E-tickets)
PigletIsMyCat
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Hope you brought enough to share....
Well you won't see me turning on Macphee just like I never turned on Matt Ouimet when he ran Disneyland. Anyone who is willing to speak up and push for the removal of the wand...then go and try to get the marketing department to throw together an Epcot 25th. anniversary (which won't happen even though he tried) has my respect.
Enderikari
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for now....
BuzzComplexCM
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Yes we have a Disney World.
But why not be hoping for a Disney World in the same league as Disneyland and Tokyo DisneySeas?
We have some of that in Epcot and a lot of that in AK.
Appreciating the present doesn't prevent a desire for improvement in the future.
They're not mutually exclusive.
I totally agree with you. However, I disagree with the people who complain that there are no changes. Then when a change finally happens, all they do is complain about how it's, "Not what they would have done, wanted, or thought it would be."
BuzzComplexCM
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I second that!
mousermerf
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Kari -
Every single news article about the wand coming down (which due to the popularity in Orlando, is being spread across the affiliates) mentions Epcot's 25th. Someone carefully planned that trump move - and is winning.
Every single news article about the wand coming down (which due to the popularity in Orlando, is being spread across the affiliates) mentions Epcot's 25th. Someone carefully planned that trump move - and is winning.
PigletIsMyCat
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You summed up this thread (minus it's celebratory :sohappy: s) in one sentence. Sort of a long sentence, sure, but still one very well worded sentence.
Enderikari
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For the love of all that is good and holy, if you are going to put a magic shop in though, PLEASE make it bigger than the closet than Disneyland has..
Otherwise, thirded
BuzzComplexCM
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Want me to grab the butter and soda?
Enderikari
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Am I the only wierdo with Nachos and Chocolate Fondue?
Guess so
Guess so