It's a small world interactive queue concept art leaked

[PalisadesPkteer]

Stranger things have happened, but be careful what you wish for...

And who goes with him...

I used to think Jim MacPhee would be a good replacement.

But is he the one in charge of Next Gen? Or was it RFID?

I also heard that Nick Franklin could be the culprit. Martin, who is in charge of this stuff?

In your opinion, would JimMacPhee still be a good choice?

 

[GenerationX]

Why can't people stand in line and socialize with the people they are with? Do we have to be entertained every minute? I saw a kid at Disney this last trip playing with some handheld game while going through Disney with his parents. How can you be at Disney playing some game you can do at home or in the room?

When people are on vacation, they want to be entertained. Waiting in line is boring, and people don't always feel like talking. Thematically suitable diversions in a queue help the attraction and might even reduce the number of people playing with their phones and handheld games, though I have nothing against anyone doing that.

I don't remember seeing anywhere that NexGen stuff is going to enhance the guest experience. I think it is going to be the other way around, it is to enhance Disney gathering more marketing information.

Is any of NextGen coming out of Marketing's budget?

 

[alissafalco]

I never pay attention to those TV screens they have above...I don't like having to look up and try to hear what they are saying when the volume is never loud enough and getting a stiiff neck..I always enjoy people watching...

 

[Tom]

When people are on vacation, they want to be entertained. Waiting in line is boring, and people don't always feel like talking. Thematically suitable diversions in a queue help the attraction and might even reduce the number of people playing with their phones and handheld games, though I have nothing against anyone doing that.

Yes, entertained. But yes, it needs to be done in a thematically correct nature.

Waiting in line is indeed boring. And after a long day/week, you pretty much run out of things to talk about among yourselves. And most people aren't the personality type to try to force conversation with a complete stranger.

If they can liven up the queues in an appropriate way, I'm all for it. But they don't need to go adding televisions to every queue. There is no place for modern technology in Pirates, or HM, or other period-based or immersive experiences.

It also sickens me to see kids with their heads buried in electronic devices at WDW - but I guess if it keeps them from climbing on the rails, or yelling and screaming, or bumping into me 5,000 times, I'll let other parents "parent" their children with electronics.

 

[GenerationX]

Yes, entertained. But yes, it needs to be done in a thematically correct nature.

Yep.

Waiting in line is indeed boring. And after a long day/week, you pretty much run out of things to talk about among yourselves. And most people aren't the personality type to try to force conversation with a complete stranger.

Yep.

If they can liven up the queues in an appropriate way, I'm all for it. But they don't need to go adding televisions to every queue. There is no place for modern technology in Pirates, or HM, or other period-based or immersive experiences.

Yep, assuming you agree the interactive queue elements at HM fit with the theming.

It also sickens me to see kids with their heads buried in electronic devices at WDW - but I guess if it keeps them from climbing on the rails, or yelling and screaming, or bumping into me 5,000 times, I'll let other parents "parent" their children with electronics.

Please. How does someone with their head buried in an electronic device in a queue harm you in any way? This isn't church, work, school or any other function that requires attention. But in line on vacation? Sure.

 

[Bolna]

Yes, entertained. But yes, it needs to be done in a thematically correct nature.

Waiting in line is indeed boring. And after a long day/week, you pretty much run out of things to talk about among yourselves. And most people aren't the personality type to try to force conversation with a complete stranger.

If they can liven up the queues in an appropriate way, I'm all for it. But they don't need to go adding televisions to every queue. There is no place for modern technology in Pirates, or HM, or other period-based or immersive experiences.

On my recent visit to Orlando there was one queue which exactly did what you suggest: entertain me brilliantly during a wait. And it was not interactive at all. It was the queue for the Forbidden Journey at WWoHP. The best example that entertaining does not have to equal interactive. The queue there is entertaining because it is inventive. Something that Disney was once the leader in.

 

[Tom]

Yep, assuming you agree the interactive queue elements at HM fit with the theming.

Yes, HM is perfect! That's EXACTLY what I expect from Disney.

And, as far as queues with monitors, it makes sense in the backlot tour, since the point is to demonstrate television. And it makes sense in the Muppet pre-show, because, well, it fits. The ones in queue for the safari are iffy, but they fit them into the story adequately. Of course, with the ridding of the poach story, they may no longer be necessary.

Please. How does someone with their head buried in an electronic device in a queue harm you in any way? This isn't church, work, school or any other function that requires attention. But in line on vacation? Sure.

I didn't say they harmed me. I was merely commenting on society in general with that statement. I won't get on that soapbox here. But I resolved to the fact that I guess I don't care if someone else's kids are buried in their games, as long as they're not annoying me...and that also means those games and devices need to be muted.

On my recent visit to Orlando there was one queue which exactly did what you suggest: entertain me brilliantly during a wait. And it was not interactive at all. It was the queue for the Forbidden Journey at WWoHP. The best example that entertaining does not have to equal interactive. The queue there is entertaining because it is inventive. Something that Disney was once the leader in.

I haven't been to UO, but I would liken what you describe to queues like Jungle Cruise or Pirates or Tower. There's plenty of visuals to keep your mind entertained while waiting - no need for gimmicks at all. Granted, the radio broadcast at JC is entertaining, and fitting. It doesn't ruin the theme or period.

 

[marni1971]

I haven't been to UO, but I would liken what you describe to queues like Jungle Cruise or Pirates or Tower. There's plenty of visuals to keep your mind entertained while waiting - no need for gimmicks at all. Granted, the radio broadcast at JC is entertaining, and fitting. It doesn't ruin the theme or period.

Oh dear.

FJ has one of if not THE best queue ever. Anywhere. It's an attraction in itself. So much to see. To Watch. To Be drawn into. 100% immersion.

And not one bit of interactivity.

As an aside, imagine what Space Mountains ride visuals would have been like if they'd not blown so much on primitive video games that shouldn't be needed in the first place.

 

[Bolna]

I haven't been to UO, but I would liken what you describe to queues like Jungle Cruise or Pirates or Tower. There's plenty of visuals to keep your mind entertained while waiting - no need for gimmicks at all. Granted, the radio broadcast at JC is entertaining, and fitting. It doesn't ruin the theme or period.

Well, Martin already answered that - but he is right, there is just nothing to compare the FJ queue to.

And in a way it is an attraction in itself since there is the "Castle Tour" which is actually a way you can walk through the line without being in line for the attraction. I think this can be called an attraction if walk-throughs like the Aladdin one at DLP are attractions.

ETA: Sorry for being so unspecific, but I truly don't want to spoil it for anyone by describing details.

 

[Tom]

Oh dear.

FJ has one of if not THE best queue ever. Anywhere. It's an attraction in itself. So much to see. To Watch. To Be drawn into. 100% immersion.

And not one bit of interactivity.

As an aside, imagine what Space Mountains ride visuals would have been like if they'd not blown so much on primitive video games that shouldn't be needed in the first place.

Ha! Let me clarify. I know one can't actually compare FJ's queue to anything at Disney - in terms of incredibleness. I just meant that the WDW rides I mentioned follow the same philosophy when it comes to queue, as in, there's no need for cheap gimmicks.

Space Mountain's rehab could have been a lot better, especially if they had spent their money more appropriately.

 

[Bolna]

Ha! Let me clarify. I know one can't actually compare FJ's queue to anything at Disney - in terms of incredibleness. I just meant that the WDW rides I mentioned follow the same philosophy when it comes to queue, as in, there's no need for cheap gimmicks.

The thing is that the FJ queue does incorporate new technology - that's what makes it different from PoC or ToT or my favourite: EE. And quite amazing technology I would say. But it isn't using technology for showing off new gimmicks, but instead for setting the story. So the Technology follows the story.

I think this is what I don't like about Next Gen. It seems like someone sad: this is exciting new technology how can we incorporate it - instead of thinking of great stories and experiencing and then trying to realise them with state of the art technology.

 

[flynnibus]

They've in a sense done this NextGen crap twice - Tommorrowland and Future World. The problem with futuristic technology is that it just doesn't stay well, futuristic. They'll be having to spend money down the road to replace todays technology tomorrow. That's the only thing I don't like about this whole idea. Do what you've done best in the past - don't try and add to the pot and hope it tastes good.

This isn't done to be 'futuristic' so I don't have any idea why you are comparing this to FW or TL. This is done to innovate in their industry and stay ahead of competition. To differentiate their product and add value.

You're comparing apples and oranges.

Do what you've done best in the past - don't try and add to the pot and hope it tastes good.

Using that kind of thinking... Disneyland and WDW would have never been built.

 

[flynnibus]

The thing is that the FJ queue does incorporate new technology - that's what makes it different from PoC or ToT or my favourite: EE. And quite amazing technology I would say. But it isn't using technology for showing off new gimmicks, but instead for setting the story. So the Technology follows the story.

No really. What would you consider new in the queue?

Fake snow? Done right on Main Street
Projections onto mylar? Done a ton before.. heck you can see some examples right over at Disaster in USO.
Large floor to ceiling place setting structures in the queue? Done at Disney for decades

Honestly the only thing really refined in the FJ queue is their animated artwork.

There really isn't anything new and unique in it.. what makes it great is the fully immersion and placing you in the intended storyplace.. instead of just dumping you right from the outside world onto the ride.

I think this is what I don't like about Next Gen. It seems like someone sad: this is exciting new technology how can we incorporate it - instead of thinking of great stories and experiencing and then trying to realise them with state of the art technology.

It's not bad to develop the technology before you have a final application (See Living Character Initiative) but what is bad is simply applying stuff because you have it.

 

[TalkingHead]

On my recent visit to Orlando there was one queue which exactly did what you suggest: entertain me brilliantly during a wait. And it was not interactive at all. It was the queue for the Forbidden Journey at WWoHP. The best example that entertaining does not have to equal interactive. The queue there is entertaining because it is inventive. Something that Disney was once the leader in.

It's an incredible queue, isn't it? It many ways I found it more impressive than the ride (and the ride is wonderful).

The Indiana Jones queue in Disneyland is probably the closest that Disney has come in the U.S. to doing a queue on the level of Forbidden Journey.

 

[the-reason14]

It's an incredible queue, isn't it? It many ways I found it more impressive than the ride (and the ride is wonderful).

The Indiana Jones queue in Disneyland is probably the closest that Disney has come in the U.S. to doing a queue on the level of Forbidden Journey.

The IJA queue is nice!! And if I'm not mistaken, doesn't it have a few interactive "hidden" elements to it? I remember one walkthrough this guy pulling a pole and the whole area looking as though an avalanche or something was about to happen.

 

[flynnibus]

The IJA queue is nice!! And if I'm not mistaken, doesn't it have a few interactive "hidden" elements to it? I remember one walkthrough this guy pulling a pole and the whole area looking as though an avalanche or something was about to happen.

Yes, the queue has several pieces that if you interact with them cause physical and sound effects. Pushing the bamboo rod drops the ceiling of spikes and pulling a rope in a later room causes sound effects.

Unfortunately these effects have a notoriously bad reputation of reliability and availability.

 

[JimboJones123]

Which begs the question...then what is the point of doing these interactive queues? Why not just let people use their phones if they want to? As you said, that doesn't harm you in any way. On the other hand, the noisemakers in HM graveyard are actually capable of inflicting physical pain by inducing headaches :lol:. Look, I have no problem trying to engage the guest in an attraction's story before the ride starts with a little interactivity in the queue. I've written at length about how Pooh's interactive queue is mostly successful. But, the HM and Space interactive queues show just how wrong these things can go, and, if these rumors are any indication, the latter two are providing the model for how Disney will be implementing these interactive queues in the future.

And God forbid anyone exercise a little patience and learn that they don't have to be constantly entertained...

Paying nearly $100 for a ticket... shouldn't you expect to be constantly entertained?

 

[Horizons1]

Yay! Screens! And I thought I would have to look at paint on walls. Phew, that was close.

 

[unkadug]

Paying nearly $100 for a ticket... shouldn't you expect to be constantly entertained?

A Broadway play costs nearly 100.00 for a cheap ticket and it only last a couple of hours.

You get more value per dollar at Disney and the entertainment is more varied.

 

[tecowdw]

While I don't care much for this type of stuff, I'm sure lots of people will love it. If you give people the opportunity to see themselves or create something personalized, they seem to go crazy for it in the parks.

Just like Spaceship Earth. I think it is a former shell of itself with the decent now just being out an interactive video screen.
:shrug:

Another part of the me-me-me generation.