alissafalco
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LOL oh come on now.... have you been to six flags in NJ? I think thats what you're thinking of...the people of WDW are socialites & Royalty compared to Six NJ!
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It's a small world interactive queue concept art leaked
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LOL oh come on now.... have you been to six flags in NJ? I think thats what you're thinking of...the people of WDW are socialites & Royalty compared to Six NJ!
MaryJaneP
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Listen carefully to the responses. NOBODY thinks adding monitors is moving forward. Even the kids these monitors are apparently aimed at don't stare at TV monitors anymore. It will take a whole lot more than monitors to advance and move forward. They should be looking at introducing future technology, not recycling some 1980's Six Flags "solution".
My thought as well.
googilycub
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+1.
Tom
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First, this art was "leaked" on purpose. There's no such thing as a leak, especially when it comes to Blue Sky development. This "leak" will tell Disney more than the Guest Surveys they do in the parks.
Secondly, everyone is jumping to the conclusion that this is the beginning of a trend. Small World is just about the most boring attraction in the parks...especially for children (in my opinion and experience). However, it eats a lot of people and absorbs a lot of the crowd - so the more people they can cram into its queue and vehicles, the better.
This said, if adding some interactive screens to help encourage kids to WANT to ride it, I guess I'm for it. And based on the article, it sounds like it's designed for the RIDE and not the QUEUE, which is a huge difference. If little Johnnie designs his persona at home and knows it will greet him on IASW, it's a guarantee that Johnnie's family will ride it...perhaps more than once.
I don't see this as a cheap excuse for an attraction like Cabaleros. I see it as a "plus" to an existing classic that has run it's course and outlived its actual entertainment value. Granted, I hope they do it well, and blend the video seamlessly into the sets instead of just standing up a bunch of monitors.
Now, if they were to even consider this in the more entertaining, and thematically perfect attractions (pirates, JC, ToT, mountains, etc, etc), I'd personally set the place on fire. Video has to fit the theme and environment to work. There's no thematic place for any sort of audio-visual involvement in rides or queues that are already completely immersive.
When people talk about NextGen, they often get too narrowminded. This is an EXTREMELY broad spectrum we're talking about. Having a CGI doll follow you around IASW on video monitors is first semester crap, and hopefully just a way to start testing the waters. It's relatively cheap to implement, and would boost ridership at an otherwise walk-on attraction. Win-win.
Secondly, everyone is jumping to the conclusion that this is the beginning of a trend. Small World is just about the most boring attraction in the parks...especially for children (in my opinion and experience). However, it eats a lot of people and absorbs a lot of the crowd - so the more people they can cram into its queue and vehicles, the better.
This said, if adding some interactive screens to help encourage kids to WANT to ride it, I guess I'm for it. And based on the article, it sounds like it's designed for the RIDE and not the QUEUE, which is a huge difference. If little Johnnie designs his persona at home and knows it will greet him on IASW, it's a guarantee that Johnnie's family will ride it...perhaps more than once.
I don't see this as a cheap excuse for an attraction like Cabaleros. I see it as a "plus" to an existing classic that has run it's course and outlived its actual entertainment value. Granted, I hope they do it well, and blend the video seamlessly into the sets instead of just standing up a bunch of monitors.
Now, if they were to even consider this in the more entertaining, and thematically perfect attractions (pirates, JC, ToT, mountains, etc, etc), I'd personally set the place on fire. Video has to fit the theme and environment to work. There's no thematic place for any sort of audio-visual involvement in rides or queues that are already completely immersive.
When people talk about NextGen, they often get too narrowminded. This is an EXTREMELY broad spectrum we're talking about. Having a CGI doll follow you around IASW on video monitors is first semester crap, and hopefully just a way to start testing the waters. It's relatively cheap to implement, and would boost ridership at an otherwise walk-on attraction. Win-win.
HMF
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I am trying to resurrect the movement on Micechat if possible.
HMF
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35TbGjt-weA
Once again, I feel that we are in a position where we actually need to hope that WDW starts failing business-wise be it via-Universal or just people realizing the declining quality, I encourage all of you to consider Disneyland in lieu of your next WDW Vacation. It will make a huge difference and you won't regret it.
TinkerBelle8878
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Why wouldn't something like this be put into the line areas of rides that actually need it? Like Soarin? At 120 minutes, that would probably need something to keep people from wanting to tear their hair out. I've only been through FP on that so if there already is something, maybe an update.
Small World isn't a long queue. It's never been that long a wait. Why waste the money here?
That's not even getting into the fact that if kids can't even wait in line like everyone else for the..40 years (?) previously, then maybe theme parks aren't for them. I've waited on plenty of lines. I survived. As every other person who grew up going to WDW did.
Now they have their noses in iphones and ipads during the wait. I think that should suffice despite how silly it is to spend all this money to do what you could just do at home.
Between this concept, the constant plugging of the DVC, the downward quality of everything (food, hotels, monorail, souveniers, etc.) for soaring prices, I'd actually sooner go to DIsneyland since the money is being put to better use there.
By the way, has DL gotten any of these interactive 'gems'? Or is WDW the lucky ones?
Small World isn't a long queue. It's never been that long a wait. Why waste the money here?
That's not even getting into the fact that if kids can't even wait in line like everyone else for the..40 years (?) previously, then maybe theme parks aren't for them. I've waited on plenty of lines. I survived. As every other person who grew up going to WDW did.
Now they have their noses in iphones and ipads during the wait. I think that should suffice despite how silly it is to spend all this money to do what you could just do at home.
Between this concept, the constant plugging of the DVC, the downward quality of everything (food, hotels, monorail, souveniers, etc.) for soaring prices, I'd actually sooner go to DIsneyland since the money is being put to better use there.
By the way, has DL gotten any of these interactive 'gems'? Or is WDW the lucky ones?
Buried20KLeague
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lazyboy97o
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I am not very confident that Disney would do this. I think they would want the screens to stick out, as this is supposedly part of an expensive new package of offerings. Hide the screens to well and people may miss the expensive digital doll they created.
Instead of filling an attraction with upcharge gimmicks, why not just bulldoze the attraction and replace it with something better? People may well do this just because they are paying so much for the larger service, not because they are actually interested in this specific offering.
The Duck
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Because there's always those who love to jump at the chance to and kvetch. As for me, I'm perfectly content to wait and watch.
Glasgow
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lol - I see what everyone is writing. Bring out the pitchforks! haha. I've been around here long enough to see many overreactions. My point was, don't be scared about advancement, not that monitors are the way of the future. There is a general sentiment around here to bash anything that changes any classic rides. HM, PoTC and several other attractions were successfully plussed. I expect the same sort of care to be taken with IASW, especially since it was a seminal example of the dark ride concept.
Disney has to strike a delicate balance between moving forward while maintaining the essence and purity of the original attractions. I'm curious as to the ratio of casual guests versus hardcore fans because at the end of the day, gotta keep the stockholders happy ... hence the new-gen queues
HMF
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Disneyland has mercifully been spared from the NextGen BS.
aladdin2007
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lol - I see what everyone is writing. Bring out the pitchforks! haha. I've been around here long enough to see many overreactions. My point was, don't be scared about advancement, not that monitors are the way of the future. There is a general sentiment around here to bash anything that changes any classic rides. HM, PoTC and several other attractions were successfully plussed. I expect the same sort of care to be taken with IASW, especially since it was a seminal example of the dark ride concept.
Disney has to strike a delicate balance between moving forward while maintaining the essence and purity of the original attractions. I'm curious as to the ratio of casual guests versus hardcore fans because at the end of the day, gotta keep the stockholders happy ... hence the new-gen queues
To the first bolded I agree, its a fine line sometimes. To the second bolded, :hurl: They can get away with spending on all this yet as already stated things that need that money and attention are not getting it.
HMF
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lol - I see what everyone is writing. Bring out the pitchforks! haha. I've been around here long enough to see many overreactions. My point was, don't be scared about advancement, not that monitors are the way of the future. There is a general sentiment around here to bash anything that changes any classic rides. HM, PoTC and several other attractions were successfully plussed. I expect the same sort of care to be taken with IASW, especially since it was a seminal example of the dark ride concept.
Disney has to strike a delicate balance between moving forward while maintaining the essence and purity of the original attractions. I'm curious as to the ratio of casual guests versus hardcore fans because at the end of the day, gotta keep the stockholders happy ... hence the new-gen queues
Yeah, gotta keep those soulless Wall Street Beancounters happy.:shrug:
alissafalco
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agree 100%! The only thing that is keeping me from ditching WDW for Disneyland Ca. is the 600$ price tag for a flight from JFK to LAX and thats it's 6 hours long ugh.....So I'll have to stick with the 2 1/2 hour 250$ price tag flight from JFK to MCO
aladdin2007
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