Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

[GhostHost1000]

What scoreboard are you looking at? The parks are the one thing in the win column right now.

But hey…parks in the win column you say? I can’t wait for all the new things coming over the next 5 years. Yey team!

 

[el_super]

I can’t wait for all the new things coming over the next 5 years. Yey team!

Maybe Iger will have announced his successor by then!

 

[GhostHost1000]

Maybe Iger will have announced his successor by then!

Like a real one or the next one he can blame his failures on?

 

[Dranth]

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But hey…gooooo parks!

Sure, stock holders want that value up but what exactly does the stock tell you about the company as a fan?

 

[GhostHost1000]

Sure, stock holders want that value up but what exactly does the stock tell you about the company as a fan?

That there have been many bad decisions made over the years which gives me less excitement and hope for good future decisions, direction, and changes in the parks

 

[drew81]

Do you think everyone is/was happy with:

Park Reservations
No park hopping until after 2
No sale of annual passes for awhile
No dining plan
Removal of magical express
Removal of free fastpass
No free magic bands for onsite guests
Paying and using Genie+
Paying for ILLs
7am G+, ILL, VQ lottery games
Removal of parades in all 4 theme parks except for 1
Removal of the night show at AK
Removal of extra magic hours for all
No expansions announced/in the works
Massive price increase trends
Decline in food quality/menu choices
Decline in show quality/upkeep/etc
Decline in ride maintenance/uptime
Etc…

I could keep going but I’d be here all night. Others feel free to add what I’ve missed

add

-Amount of characters being reduced at character meals with the prices being increased

-Removal of all characters in Town Square

-Entertainment reductions at hard tickets

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[Dranth]

That there have been many bad decisions made over the years which gives me less excitement for the future decisions, direction, and changes in the parks

I don't disagree in many cases but the stock doesn't reflect that. The people who invest enough to make stocks move are not friends to fans. They dropped the stock because Iger said they were going to invest more in the parks, not less. That's not a model I hope the CEO caves into.

 

[Nubs70]

Some don’t know that the fast food at WDW used to be terrible in the 1970s and 1980s. They took steps to improve it, and then it slipped a bit, but WDW fast food today is still better than the early days.

As you suggest, the Pandora and BBQ Quick Service restaurants today are as good as any Quick Service restaurant in the past.

Pecos Bills was soon bad last time I was there. What ever I got was the same beige color of the plate. Made me burp all afternoon. From the smell you could not tell if I was burping or farting

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I find it truly amazing that anyone could, with any sort of intellectual honesty, believe that a higher entry cost is somehow going to result in higher revenue for a leisure travel product that is entirely optional. For a product that is 50 years old, is being milked for all its worth already, and has a relatively decent competitor up the interstate that is actively investing in growth and expansion vs. the current Bob model of rip-and-replace. There's a reason jacking ticket prices up won't work, but I'm not going to do the homework for the textbook lurners with zero real-world experience, logic, or practicality.

Even if they managed to account for the revenue drop of fewer travelers…which is like a
Course in “new math” at the university of Warsaw…against all odds…

The profits would substantially fall. So there’s that little problem as well.

 

[TheMaxRebo]

Pecos Bills was soon bad last time I was there. What ever I got was the same beige color of the plate. Made me burp all afternoon. From the smell you could not tell if I was burping or farting

Pecos Bills is the one place we will never, ever return to - just awful

On the flip side we are at Tortuga Tavern last trip and thought it was rather good (small menu though)

 

[Miss Bella]

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But hey…parks in the win column you say? I can’t wait for all the new things coming over the next 5 years. Yey team!

That chart is not nearly as scary as the debt(bond) market chart.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

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But hey…parks in the win column you say? I can’t wait for all the new things coming over the next 5 years. Yey team!

Business is BOOMIN

 

[Miss Bella]

Business is BOOMIN

If the debt market bubble implodes none of it will matter anyway.

 

[PREMiERdrum]

You really think there are people out there today still booking a trip that don't know about the park reservations?

As an agency owner, yes. Lots and lots and lots of them.

 

[UNCgolf]

Some don’t know that the fast food at WDW used to be terrible in the 1970s and 1980s. They took steps to improve it, and then it slipped a bit, but WDW fast food today is still better than the early days.

As you suggest, the Pandora and BBQ Quick Service restaurants today are as good as any Quick Service restaurant in the past.

I don't think there's really been any decline in QS -- it's arguably improved over the past. It's the table service restaurants that are generally worse, although I think that's mainly due to the Disney Dining Plan.

The QS places at Disney Springs are better than a significant number of the table service restaurants in the parks and resorts.

 

[Bullseye1967]

I don't think there's really been any decline in QS -- it's arguably improved over the past. It's the table service restaurants that are generally worse, although I think that's mainly due to the Disney Dining Plan.

The QS places at Disney Springs are better than a significant number of the table service restaurants in the parks and resorts.

Spot on.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

If the debt market bubble implodes none of it will matter anyway.

That’s what I mean by “boomin”

Literally a keg of dynamite with a fuse lit

 

[Disstevefan1]

I'll defend quick service at WDW. We could be dealing with SeaWorld quality and their atrocious pricing model, or Universal's slow and poor quality of service.

I'm very lucky to consider Satu'li Canteen as a go-to spot for dinner after work as I live nearby, and get a decent meal for only $15

I thought the counter service at the Harry Potter lands were good, but that was when they first opened.

Did the quality go down?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I thought the counter service at the Harry Potter lands were good, but that was when they first opened.

Did the quality go down?

I thought they were really good

The rest of the parks are a steep drop off though

 

[drizgirl]

I thought the counter service at the Harry Potter lands were good, but that was when they first opened.

Did the quality go down?

Love the counter service in Harry Potter land.

But it's the dumbest thing EVER that I can't have Diet Coke with my lunch.