Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

mysto

mysto

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GimpYancIent said:
When nothing more can be squeezed / wrenched out, the bottom-line hits rock bottom and there is huge financial loss with no fix, then there will be change in management (on many levels). Mostly rats bailing from the sinking ship. Ahhhhh but it is a big ship and right now ballast is being dumped, moved around and even some counter flooding to keep the ship at even keel. It will be a while for things to get critical.
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Disney will hit the wall at the same time the rest of America hits the wall.

"no one could have seen this coming"
"it's out of our hands"
"tight economic conditions"

In such a scenario DIS management will not have egg on their face. I acknowledge it's possible DIS will suffer some kind of armaggeddon moment before the rest of the market but that's only if they're the worst of the worst.

Plus there's the official reaction, which usually saves most bad actors from any sort of consequences minus the usual one or two examples of failure or jail time intended to convince us that the system works. (I'm not claiming Disney is or isn't a bad actor.)

Sorry to be such a downer, but the lynch mob is on indefinite hold.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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mysto said:
Disney will hit the wall at the same time the rest of America hits the wall.

"no one could have seen this coming"
"it's out of our hands"
"tight economic conditions"

In such a scenario DIS management will not have egg on their face. I acknowledge it's possible DIS will suffer some kind of armaggeddon moment before the rest of the market but that's only if they're the worst of the worst.

Plus there's the official reaction, which usually saves most bad actors from any sort of consequences minus the usual one or two examples of failure or jail time intended to convince us that the system works. (I'm not claiming Disney is or isn't a bad actor.)

Sorry to be such a downer, but the lynch mob is on indefinite hold.
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I think that’s what we’re seeing

The hardest hit (Check the headlines) at least based on perception is the old white picket fence middle class.
That is Disney’s key demographic. They can’t function without it.

Their purchasing power was wrecked during the covid bubble. And it was trending down before.

That’s what we are seeing. Disney customers are not “whales” buying crappy fake concierge rooms at the poly…they are also not four contract DVCs. Those are the fringe streets on the edge of town…the problem is they’re being smacked right down “broadway.”
 
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HauntedPirate

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
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Epcot82Guy said:
Not to put words in the poster's mouth, but there are 4 distinct aspects of Guardians.
-The Ride.
-The story.
-How it fits.
-The Big Blue Box.

You can like 1 and maybe 2 and hate it for 3 and 4. I would say the position that the big blue box is an eye sore and should be torn down is a fair one. Not that we have to agree, but it does intrude on the park a lot.

And, if they could fix 3 and 4 somehow (not possible, I realize), I think it wouldn't solve much of the negativity you might see.
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My head no longer likes the ride after 3 rides. The story is abysmal. The queue does nothing to tie into the ride's "story". It doesn't fit its location, and the BBB is unforgivable where it is. Dump this thing at DHS, where it belonged the whole time, and the complaints quiet down considerably.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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HauntedPirate said:
$93.99/share at the moment. And many of the Disney stock-pumper-uppers cannot figure out why the stock isn't doing better.
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I could tell you why…but nobody here will believe it because it doesn’t give reverence to adult fantasies like “magic”
GhostHost1000 said:
think Bob riding summit plummet
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That would involve bothering to open it in the summer
 
HauntedPirate

HauntedPirate

Park nostalgist
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Sirwalterraleigh said:
I could tell you why…but nobody here will believe it because it doesn’t give reverence to adult fantasies like “magic”

That would involve bothering to open it in the summer
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It wouldn't have anything to do with the chasm between management and actual guests, would it? Or maybe how Iger and his henchmen have continually mis-read what their core audiences (parks, movies, TV, et al.) want and also bungled what should have been sure-fire hits?

The guy before Bob (the first) had instincts. Bob has none.
 
tl77

tl77

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Vacationeer said:
😢😢😭😭😭 That was painful to read. GotG is amazing. I don’t love all the IP being shoehorned into EP but if you want to take a ride through the universe, Guardians Cosmic Rewind is the best Earthly way to do that.
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🥹 Sorry to make you cry, I just loved what EPCOT Center was about

...I don't think IP is a bad thing though, but reusing the same handful of IP everywhere is kind of boring to me. Like if they put the Disney Villains land in Hollywood Studios behind Tower of Terror where Fantasmic is, but used the live action villains, they could have a unique land that's a Dark Fantasy world, Spooky but Elegant, and still have the Disney senses of humor. It could be on par with Star Wars Galaxy's Edge, compete with Harry Potter and The Universal Monsters land, and be a reason to bring the Shanghai Pirates ride to the US, and maybe get a permanent Nightmare before Christmas/Jack Skellington attraction at WDW too

Magic Kingdom is like a "Cartoon World" and I love that about it, but the Disney Hollywood Studios could be something a little more realistic and grown up, but still "Disney"

disney-villain-montage2.jpg


DHS-Villains.jpg
 
rd805

rd805

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tl77 said:
🥹 Sorry to make you cry, I just loved what EPCOT Center was about

...I don't think IP is a bad thing though, but reusing the same handful of IP everywhere is kind of boring to me. Like if they put the Disney Villains land in Hollywood Studios behind Tower of Terror where Fantasmic is, but used the live action villains, they could have a unique land that's a Dark Fantasy world, Spooky but Elegant, and still have the Disney senses of humor. It could be on par with Star Wars Galaxy's Edge, compete with Harry Potter and The Universal Monsters land, and be a reason to bring the Shanghai Pirates ride to the US, and maybe get a permanent Nightmare before Christmas/Jack Skellington attraction at WDW too

Magic Kingdom is like a "Cartoon World" and I love that about it, but the Disney Hollywood Studios could be something a little more realistic and grown up, but still "Disney"
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Using the live-action villains is an interesting take; but IMO they aren't iconic or even as interesting as classic Maleficent, Chernabog, animated Queen of Hearts, Hook, Evil Queen, Hades, RATTTTIGAN!
 
el_super

el_super

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wannabeBelle said:
93.72 and counting. Marie
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Oh ... are we back to tracking the stock price?

Probably a reaction to the (mostly eclipsed) news that DLR CMs are authorizing a strike in their labor negotiations. That's definitely going to put downward pressure on profits, should the union secure a better deal.

Any of the stock watchers want to come out and admit management would be fools to allow the union to get better wages? Anyone?
 

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