Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
So what’s the deal, then?It's just as hot at Universal and SeaWorld. Universal is just as expensive if not more so than WDW.
So what’s the deal, then?It's just as hot at Universal and SeaWorld. Universal is just as expensive if not more so than WDW.
Travel is always tied to overall economic confidence/spendingMaybe not in park attendance but the competitive landscape was a lot different in prior booms. The studio is a different story. Before Beauty and the Beast in 1991 the studio hadn't been doing great for a while.
Yeah…but clueless shills aren’t as popular around here as they used to be…According to some it is succeeding very well. Lower attendance to elevate the guest experience making Disney great again!
Wait a minute…you mean after 6 weeks of relentless promotion across all platforms trying to do damage control…there ISN’T a 4 hour wait for this thing?The VQ for the just opened Tiana ride took almost two hours to fill at 1pm.
That ain’t the heat.
I guess once someone found the secret spice it just wasn’t as interestingWait a minute…you mean after 6 weeks of relentless promotion across all platforms trying to do damage control…there ISN’T a 4 hour wait for this thing?
They’re keeping it on VQ so people aren’t stuck in lines, and are free to do stuff like dine at Crystal PalaceWait a minute…you mean after 6 weeks of relentless promotion across all platforms trying to do damage control…there ISN’T a 4 hour wait for this thing?
The shills attempting to move some to the dark side ( ie Uni ) will defend tooth and nail on how Uni is this and that on a Disney forum. Whatever anyone chooses , the Sunshine State thanks all for their support of travel and tourism!Yeah…but clueless shills are as popular around here as they used to be…
It's mentioned often on various sites that people only use Universal as a one or 2 days trip. I think that is wrong, or maybe we are the only ones who are going for 5 1/2 days this fall? We always find something to do, not just running from ride to ride. I used to think that way too, until I took the time to actually do more than rides. The last time we were at Universal last year, we only stayed 3 1/2 days which was not enough to see and do all we wanted.
I don't believe that we are the only ones who consider it a vacation destination of more than 2 days.
Years ago I thought the same thing and we only went to Universal for 1 or 2 days during our 10 days WDW trips.
However, that has changed, as WDW has changed. We are now Universal only people.
I'm not picking on you, but just addressing the comments about Universal visits that most people online say stating Universal is only a 1 or 2 day theme park. I don't think that is true now. Now, when Epic Universe opens, that's a whole new ball game
At the time I made my post, the wait times at WDW were, on the whole, slightly higher than they were at Uni. And that doesn’t even take into account that WDW guests were spread out over more parks than Uni. You don’t have to like what I just said, but it is a fact.I showed you the “respective wait times” over the course of the day. There’s no small window or time today where WDW was performing better relatively speaking than Universal.
Which is a shame and short sighted to meIt's not hard to understand. They are shifting towards more of what regional parks are. Less theming and more thrills.
Yes and no. It makes sense why they are changing directions. Being a theme park wasn't packing them in like it was in the past.Which is a shame and short sighted to me
I can’t imagine how much poohs puffed French toast they had to toss out todayThey’re keeping it on VQ so people aren’t stuck in lines, and are free to do stuff like dine at Crystal Palace
At the time I made my post, the wait times at WDW were, on the whole, slightly higher than they were at Uni.
The inference from the wait times is that WDW is unusually quieter and has less attendance than normal, whereas Universal’s is generally tracking with what is expected. This thread is trying to answer whether attendance is down, and it undoubtedly is. Weather or time of year is often used as a recent excuse for a downturn in WDW attendance, but that would seem to equally affect Universal (which it doesn’t appear to have done, at least going off of posted wait times today).If your post proved anything at all it’s that even when WDW attendance is way below its typical numbers, it is still roughly equivalent to Uni.
And failing to understand the value of incremental sales.According to some it is succeeding very well. Lower attendance to elevate the guest experience making Disney great again!
Len, evidence like this, and all the indicia of distressingly low current and projected attendance keeps mounting.
I’ll gladly step in as needed.Disney has never had a “bust” in a “boom” before. That is the most alarming thing.
The other problem is Eisner/wells had a secret weapon
Roy E…I’ve long argued…was the most important person in Disney history
More than his father and uncle.
We are fresh out of Roys
Sorry but when Jungle Cruise has a 30 minute wait and Peter Pan is at 45 minutes at 2pm that says quiet to me.Look, the idea that WDW was quiet and Uni was “very busy” simply is not true, and that’s all I was pointing out. I agree that numbers were way down at WDW, but that doesn’t change the fact that the poster to whom I was responding was making a dishonest post. It is what it is.
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