Is attendance really down at WDW this or…

[GhostHost1000]

Agree, and every year we act shocked. Summer is down fall is up - that’s been going on for quite sometime.

If so then shouldn’t Disney increase prices in the fall?

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[gorillaball]

If so then shouldn’t Disney increase prices in the fall?

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Are you trying to say because they have a fall promo that fall attendance has not trended up over the last 10 years?

 

[GhostHost1000]

Are you trying to say because they have a fall promo that fall attendance has not trended up over the last 10 years?

No, I’m saying if the fall is more crowded than the summer now, they would raise pricing in the fall and discount more in the summer.

More schools have fall breaks now so mid October has become a busier month for sure

 

[gorillaball]

No, I’m saying if the fall is more crowded than the summer now, they would raise pricing in the fall and discount more in the summer.

More schools have fall breaks now so mid October has become a busier month for sure

Which is all I was saying, generally speaking fall demand has risen while summer has dropped.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Do I want to spend my vacation walking around a theme park in this? No, I don’t. And I think the people spending thousands of dollars to do so are crazy. No offense.

I’d be so miserable.

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Scan around the United States and find the “cool” spots right now.

But beware: if you do it’s not gonna fit your pre-determined narrative in defense of big shot Bobby and tight pants

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Attendance is down…day by day…week by week…month by month.

How many times do people have to go at all points of the calendar and say it - all seasons, all holidays, a thousand excuses - before we stop with this?

HELL…Disney is telling you…along with people who have studied crowds for 20 damn years…and it still isn’t good enough.

What is the point here?

“I love Disney…therefore everyone loves Disney…therefore it’s worth it and everyone goes?”

That’s the crutch?

That’s sad frankly…explain it to me, please? Why does deny an attendance drop suit any “fan”?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The news is talking about record setting travel this summer


wonder where they are all going

Well it’s gonna be easy to start figuring it out with process of Elimination

The list of where they aren’t going is very small

 

[Angel Ariel]

Scan around the United States and find the “cool” spots right now.

But beware: if you do it’s not gonna fit your pre-determined narrative in defense of big shot Bobby and tight pants

We just got back from a week at the Outer Banks. It was glorious. And prices for houses there have skyrocketed in the last few years. It wasn't shocking that they rose during Covid as it was a way for families to vacation and stilll have a bubble, but the prices (and demand) haven't gone back to pre-COVID levels in the years since either.

TBH, it's a much easier vacation. No planning, low humidity, where we go there's much less crowds. I love Disney, but OBX is definitely an easier vacation both in planning and execution.

 

[Stripes]

Scan around the United States and find the “cool” spots right now.

But beware: if you do it’s not gonna fit your pre-determined narrative in defense of big shot Bobby and tight pants

Oh, it’s hot and humid in a lot of places. But not a lot of people dream of spending thousands on a vacation to walk 20 miles a day at a theme park in this weather.

I hope you see the difference.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Oh, it’s hot and humid in a lot of places. But not a lot of people dream of spending thousands on a vacation to walk 20 miles a day at a theme park in this weather.

I hope you see the difference.

Not a lot of people?

Only since 1971.

Try again

Hint: start with the prices and micro charges

 

[GhostHost1000]

Oh, it’s hot and humid in a lot of places. But not a lot of people dream of spending thousands on a vacation to walk 20 miles a day at a theme park in this weather.

I hope you see the difference.

They used to.

Of course there’s probably another thousand or two involved these days vs the past

 

[JD80]

Oh, it’s hot and humid in a lot of places. But not a lot of people dream of spending thousands on a vacation to walk 20 miles a day at a theme park in this weather.

I hope you see the difference.

I'm on vacation at Rohobeth Beach. It's 80/90. It's fantastic right now.

110 in Orlando? Lol. I don't want cool in the summer, but there is a huge difference between 110 and 90.

 

[Stripes]

Not a lot of people?

Only since 1971.

Try again

Hint: start with the prices and micro charges

After COVID I think parents became more comfortable pulling their kids out of school during the school year so there’s not as much of a necessity for families to visit during the summer.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

We just got back from a week at the Outer Banks. It was glorious. And prices for houses there have skyrocketed in the last few years. It wasn't shocking that they rose during Covid as it was a way for families to vacation and stilll have a bubble, but the prices (and demand) haven't gone back to pre-COVID levels in the years since either.

TBH, it's a much easier vacation. No planning, low humidity, where we go there's much less crowds. I love Disney, but OBX is definitely an easier vacation both in planning and execution.

No argument

And being 20 miles offshore is a nice breeze bonus

You know…when the kids were smaller we went to HHI with some consistency…even in the “hades” season…
And now when I’m looking at the genie app for hours on end…I find myself missing hilton head.

Sure it’s just as hot…sometime worse…but there’s a simplicity to it. Enjoy the sun and sample restaurants.
But without a ride hassle. And without having to look at the same things you’ve bought for years Jump in price in noticeable manners.

The strain they’ve inflicted on customers by choice is really chopping wood now. By choice. Bad management.

 

[Stripes]

I'm on vacation at Rohobeth Beach. It's 80/90. It's fantastic right now.

110 in Orlando? Lol. I don't want cool in the summer, but there is a huge difference between 110 and 90.

It’s 80 and sunny where I’m at and low humidity.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I'm on vacation at Rohobeth Beach. It's 80/90. It's fantastic right now.

110 in Orlando? Lol. I don't want cool in the summer, but there is a huge difference between 110 and 90.

It’s never been 110 in Orlando.

And rehobeth is on the water.

Orlando never was.

And yet…remember the 2 hour waits in the 70s/80s/90s on liquified asphalt in July?

No you don’t…but you can be assured they existed.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It’s 80 and sunny where I’m at and low humidity.

If you’ll notice…the kids are also out of school and not at lacrosse camp either…

They really should move All that stuff to today…since everyone will be in wdw basking in magic in October
(Even though their hotel occupancy is still trash…yes…it’s possible to check)

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Let’s do a temp check for the meteorological impaired:

Current temps

NYC 81
Atlanta 95
Oklahoma City 95
Montreal 84
Orlando 79

Just impossible to travel on vacation…get your Halloween tickets!!!

 

[Stripes]

If you’ll notice…the kids are also out of school and not at lacrosse camp either…

They really should move All that stuff to today…since everyone will be in wdw basking in magic in October
(Even though their hotel occupancy is still trash…yes…it’s possible to check)

What is your point? Not making any sense to me.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

After COVID I think parents became more comfortable pulling their kids out of school during the school year so there’s not as much of a necessity for families to visit during the summer.

We’ve already covered that excuse for days …almost 2 years actually.

Attendance is still DOWN. Disney has told you 4 out the last 5 quarters? And the one that just hit the books could Be UGLY. Not everyone is going in October or January…it’s LESS PEOPLE. on-site and off.
Occupancy is so bad they won’t admit it (I don’t bother old sources much…but there’s no waffling on this)

There is a growing crackdown on attendance that is spreading because of the Covid shift in habits.

I live in a very high earning suburb of one of the largest cities in the country…hell I can name more people with dvc than I can without…
…and they sent out a policy change to quash travel weeks in April. That wasn’t done as a “feeler” or lightly. Performance has dropped and how are our special little children gonna rule the world now? They can’t get into Rutgers or Penn state?

Bob told you Disney is invincible. And he hid under his desk and rode the wave.

To err is human.