***adds this to the list***Another hurdle that Disney, a company that markets to small children is facing. Declining US birth rates.
US births are down again, after the COVID baby bust and rebound
After a late-pandemic rebound in birth rates, the number of babies born each month remains well below pre-pandemic levels according to analysis of new CDC data by Melissa Kearney and Phil Levine.www.brookings.edu
Not if you are supporting two McMansions a lake house/boat and a DVC contract. They feel poor
The declining birthrate is a bigger problem for parks based on thrill rides. Older adults are less likely to ride rollercoasters. As the population ages parks with more shows and rides that are calm will do better than thrill parks. AK with the Safari and 2 animal walking trails along with the paths and animals around the tree of life is perfect for people of all ages. So is Epcot with all its festivals and easy going rides. Building rides designed for teens and young adults goes against the demographics the world faces. Remember this, families are averaging less than 2 children per couple and that 1 child is the most popular number of children today. Yes, there are still families with more but the people with money that Disney and Universal want have 1 or 2 and thats it. The rides destination parks and resorts need are rides that people from 2 to 85 can enjoy and that is not fast multiple looping roller coasters but fantastic dark rides lufe RoHR, HM, PoTC and others.Another hurdle that Disney, a company that markets to small children is facing. Declining US birth rates.
US births are down again, after the COVID baby bust and rebound
After a late-pandemic rebound in birth rates, the number of babies born each month remains well below pre-pandemic levels according to analysis of new CDC data by Melissa Kearney and Phil Levine.
That is just stupid. Most people own one home and if they are smart would buy a timeshare on Ebay for almost nothing. While I do own several DVC contracts and enough points for 3 to 4 visits a year I would never spend what resale prices are today or even worse what Disney charges. You can still buy Wyndham points cheap and stay in a 2 bedroom villa for less than most hotel rooms offsite. And anyone making twice the national average for family income is not poor and $175,000 is well over twice the national average.
One of the most carefree vacations that I have taken recently was sailing out of Bayonne, NJ on the Celebrity Summit. As you mention, the service was outstanding and I had an amazing time. Marie
Agree but $175k a year is worth a lot less than it was when I grew up (in the 80s). When I was 10 in 1985 it's the equivalent of somebody who made $61,600. Somebody making $175k a year won't be living paycheck to paycheck but, especially in high cost metro areas, they aren't living worry free without a budget either.Yep. Try a young married couple with a newborn making $14,000 a year. That's "poor."
I also grew up poor. $175k a year ain't it.
More importantly, you got to leave New Jersey.
I think the point is the perception is thrown off right now.
I actually love Bayonne. Easy as pie for me. Prices are a little high right now
Really tough to argue with that.
I think this is a little more accurate. Yes 175k is not poor. But a mortgage in area with high cost of living, increasing utilities, loans people still have, one or two kids in daycare (second mortgage payment), etc. It’s possible people in that bracket still struggle to pay for expensive vacations. Obviously vacations are not a need, but it’s relevant to the topic that even with those salaries, regular Disney trips might be a no go.
I have heard inflation has increased the yearly cost of living by about $8500 for the mythical family of four (are they from Denver? I do not know).
I dont know how he got to $20,000 unless he got a suite. I'm all in for about $4300 for 2 people at GF including food. Add a few more days and I'd be at like $6200. Even if you double it for 4 people, even though the room cost wouldn't double, it would be around $12,500. He must have gotten a much more expensive room
Struggle? Some in my area just don't care. Take out bank loans to go on vacation and or make min payments monthly on the credit cards.
I'm sure she missed the real bagels, chinese food , diners, pizza from NJ/NY. You can take a girl away from New Jersey but you can't take New Jersey out of the girl.
The problem is that those same people who put luxuries on their credit cards are now maxing them out on necessities. There's no room on the Mastercard for an expensive Disney vacation when you need the available credit for food and gasoline.
Very common. I think of my boss who makes at least 40k more than I do, which I know because education salaries are very transparent. This person told me wow it’s nice you’re doing Disney again, we’re still paying off our trip from last year. So I’m sure there are very irresponsible people who will keep tacking on, but if you’re still paying on a trip from a year ago, you might avoid booking another trip.
