Indiana Jones 5 Now Pushed Back to 2021

[Disstevefan1]

MI is going to blow the doors of of Indy5. I think we all can agree.

 

[Tha Realest]

Framing does matter but MI is also estimated at $250m global for the opening; after two weeks Indy 5 is just now getting to that number.

Also significant that Indy’s 5-day had four weekend/holidays/days off so the expectation is people would have more free time to see it.

I think it’s symptomatic of Hollywood’s problems that internet movie talk has increasingly become focused on box office numbers. Not a good sign for the business when the box score is more interesting than the game itself.

Don't you know? International numbers don’t matter anymore. Domestic only, and when those don’t help, we pivot to unknown merchandise sales and value to D+.

 

[mf1972]

Tremendously excited about this movie. It’s the best active film series going, and each film gets better and better. It elevated with the addition of Rebecca Ferguson’s Faust and hasn’t stopped there. And, it’s always had a very diverse cast.

personally i thought the series got better with ghost protocol & just went crazy after that. we’re watching it tomorrow night. looking forward to it.

 

[CinematicFusion]

I love M:I. It may be my favorite ongoing franchise. But this article is projecting a $90 million 5-day domestic opening.

Indy had $82 million. Not a world of difference.

Now, I fully expect M:I to have much longer legs (the reviews are excellent) and to do much better overall. But this an interesting example of how framing alters a story.

What is the global opening difference between Indy and MI?

 

[tcool123]

What is the global opening difference between Indy and MI?

If MI pulls off 250 million, then 120 million is the difference; mainly from overseas box offices.

 

[CinematicFusion]

If MI pulls off 250 million, then 120 million is the difference; mainly from overseas box offices.

That’s pretty big difference

 

[Phroobar]

If MI pulls off 250 million, then 120 million is the difference; mainly from overseas box offices.

Can they send me the difference.

 

[TalkingHead]

As ‘Insidious’ Flicks Away ‘Indiana Jones’ at #1, Disney’s Very Expensive Franchise Faces a Massive Loss

Sony's "Insidious" opens to $32.6 million, "Indiana Jones: The Dial of Destiny" drops 56 percent, and "Sound of Freedom" has grossed $40 million.

www.indiewire.com

Have to think between this and Flash, the next Star Wars’ production costs are going to be managed more closely than ever.

 

[Phroobar]

Think of how many e-ticket attractions Disneyland and DCA could have with that kind of money.

 

[J4546]

Think of how many e-ticket attractions Disneyland and DCA could have with that kind of money.

1?

 

[Phroobar]

1?

I'd rather have the attraction than what we got.

 

[Wendy Pleakley]

Regarding the whole age thing, I wouldn't say it's ageist to not be into a movie where an 80+ year old is being presented as an action hero.

It doesn't matter to me too much. With few exceptions all action heroes are being portrayed via a combination of an actor, stunt performers, and special effects. None of this is real so having Harrison play the role now is not overly egregious to me.

Keanu Reeves is almost 60 yet we see John Wick fall several stories, bounce off a metal beam, and walks away with a slight limp as he barely slows down. As opposed to real life where he'd be en route to a hospital or the morgue. Is it different when the actor is 80? Sure, but both cases require suspension of disbelief.

I do think they could have put him in situations that were more believable. He was still effective as Han Solo because he's mostly flying a ship and firing a blaster. Indy has him jumping from moving vehicles, playing chicken with a subway car on horseback, amongst other stuff.

It's a weird dichotomy in this movie because they do lean into the story of a man who is not the action hero he once was, and has to find himself again, but then impose no limits on what he can do. Maybe there could have been a happy medium.

 

[GimpYancIent]

Regarding the whole age thing, I wouldn't say it's ageist to not be into a movie where an 80+ year old is being presented as an action hero.

It doesn't matter to me too much. With few exceptions all action heroes are being portrayed via a combination of an actor, stunt performers, and special effects. None of this is real so having Harrison play the role now is not overly egregious to me.

Keanu Reeves is almost 60 yet we see John Wick fall several stories, bounce off a metal beam, and walks away with a slight limp as he barely slows down. As opposed to real life where he'd be en route to a hospital or the morgue. Is it different when the actor is 80? Sure, but both cases require suspension of disbelief.

I do think they could have put him in situations that were more believable. He was still effective as Han Solo because he's mostly flying a ship and firing a blaster. Indy has him jumping from moving vehicles, playing chicken with a subway car on horseback, amongst other stuff.

It's a weird dichotomy in this movie because they do lean into the story of a man who is not the action hero he once was, and has to find himself again, but then impose no limits on what he can do. Maybe there could have been a happy medium.

The mature Indy did just fine. As he said in the end of the movie "everything hurts", he definitely earned some rest and recuperation post-retirement.

 

[mf1972]

i wasn’t even paying attention to his age during the movie. wasn’t really a factor for me. i enjoyed it for what it was.

 

[TP2000]

Uh, gang, what the heck is going on at the box office? This weekend will obviously belong to Mission: Impossible, but until then this Sound of Freedom movie is outselling Indy 5. Huh????

Here's the box office tally for yesterday. Look at those numbers, especially the per-theater take for Sound of Freedom that is only in 2,952 theaters compared to Indy's 4,600 theaters. This wasn't how it was supposed to happen for Burbank, I'm confident in that.

'Sound of Freedom' beats 'Indiana Jones' in incredible box-office coup

Action movie "Sound of Freedom" is based on the real-life story of Tim Ballard, founder of the anti-trafficking group Operation Underground Railroad.

www.newsweek.com

 

[TP2000]

Think of how many e-ticket attractions Disneyland and DCA could have with that kind of money.

Yeah, it's criminal how bloated and out of control the studio budgets are now. The Parks deserved this investment instead.

1?

Oh. Yeah, that's a valid point.

WDI can waste money just as easily as the studios.

 

[MisterPenguin]

MI is going to blow the refrigerator doors of of Indy5. I think we all can agree.

FTFY

 

[Disney Irish]

Disney isn't in the business of making $15 million dollar films that generate minor profit. For them, it's go big or go home.

Comparisons to that movie don't strike me as particularly relevant or interesting.

To say nothing of cherry picking. A movie that just came out made more money on a Monday than Indy did. Yet, Indy made more if you look at how much it earned on it's first regular weekday of business.

Its been the nature of these conversations, point out how Disney "fails" with a single data point but doesn't look at the whole picture.

And before anyone jumps all over this, no one is claiming that Indy5 is somehow now successfully at the box office. Its going to end up losing money during its theatrical run, so you have nothing to worry about.

 

[BuddyThomas]

My take from this thread is that all the usual haters are giddy with unbridled joy that another Disney film did worse than expected. Quelle Suprise.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Disney isn't in the business of making $15 million dollar films that generate minor profit. For them, it's go big or go home.

Disney is home and the house is on fire.