Indiana Jones 5 Now Pushed Back to 2021

[GimpYancIent]

Agreed. While I'm not Mr. Ford's age, I have been collecting Social Security for a few years now. And I get told by winsome young supermarket clerks how young I seem "for my age". I'm loving retirement. I got Botox around my eyes exactly one (1) time about 15 years ago and I looked in the mirror and thought "Oh, stop it. Get over yourself and get old" and had a good laugh at myself over that stunt.

I also had to laugh out loud at a recent statement Jennifer Anniston made about how insulted she is when people tell her she looks good "for her age". She was seriously insulted by that, and marched out all the latest 'ism' catchphrases about how she should just be told she looks good period, with the fact she's in her mid 50's kept silent.

Like I said to myself in the mirror after my Botox experiment "Get over yourself Jen and get old."

But when it comes to action stars doing wild stunts, I generally like action stars to not be eligible for Social Security. I also put Superheroes in that same category. There's no good reason that in the 2050's we should be subjected to an 80 year old Chris Pratt and Chris Hemsworth pretending to be eternal gods of power. Find someone new for the 2050's, please. Your box office will thank you.

Hey! There is a lot of up-and-coming talent out there that has not hit their moment. Stand-by.

 

[BuddyThomas]

Agreed. While I'm not Mr. Ford's age, I have been collecting Social Security for a few years now. And I get told by winsome young supermarket clerks how young I seem "for my age". I'm loving retirement. I got Botox around my eyes exactly one (1) time about 15 years ago and I looked in the mirror and thought "Oh, stop it. Get over yourself and get old" and had a good laugh at myself over that stunt.

I also had to laugh out loud at a recent statement Jennifer Anniston made about how insulted she is when people tell her she looks good "for her age". She was seriously insulted by that, and marched out all the latest 'ism' catchphrases about how she should just be told she looks good period, with the fact she's in her mid 50's kept silent.

Like I said to myself in the mirror after my Botox experiment "Get over yourself Jen and get old."

But when it comes to action stars doing wild stunts, I generally like action stars to not be eligible for Social Security. I also put Superheroes in that same category. There's no good reason that in the 2050's we should be subjected to an 80 year old Chris Pratt and Chris Hemsworth pretending to be eternal gods of power. Find someone new for the 2050's, please. Your box office will thank you.

Again, you didn’t see it so you do not know what you are talking about. Again, there are plenty of older action stars. Is Tom a cruise allowed to be in Mission Impossible at the age of 61; doing his own stunts? Or are you making that illegal too?

 

[sedati]

Saw it today and enjoyed it throughout. I have quibbles, but nothing beyond that. My only real complaint is that I'm not raving about it though that in no way shifts the experience into a negative.

 

[TP2000]

Again, you didn’t see it so you do not know what you are talking about. Again, there are plenty of older action stars. Is Tom a cruise allowed to be in Mission Impossible at the age of 61; doing his own stunts? Or are you making that illegal too?

It's not illegal, but it might begin to affect his box office result. And I do think that's a key factor in Indy 5's box office problems.

Tom Cruise is getting up there now though. I think his appearance in mega-hit Maverick came at nearly the last second where his age would be believable to anyone who has ever served in the Armed Forces, much less in highly demanding Naval Aviation.

Looking at the trailer, Tom Cruise aesthetically still works for Mission: Impossible. But in 5 years time that may no longer be the case.

Let's also not pretend all these stars don't have a dumptruck's worth of work done on their faces and bodies, from medspas and surgeons and private chefs and physical trainers and aestheticians of all skillsets.

Tom Cruise at 61, who has spent at least a million dollars on his physical appearance in the last decade, looks absolutely nothing like the average American 61 year old man loading his Costco cart with gallon jugs of mayonnaise and 5-packs of frozen pizzas.

 

[BuddyThomas]

It's not illegal, but it might begin to affect his box office result. And I do think that's a key factor in Indy 5's box office problems.

Tom Cruise is getting up there now though. I think his appearance in mega-hit Maverick came at nearly the last second where his age would be believable to anyone who has ever served in the Armed Forces, much less in highly demanding Naval Aviation.

Looking at the trailer, Tom Cruise aesthetically still works for Mission: Impossible. But in 5 years time that may no longer be the case.

Let's also not pretend all these stars don't have a dumptruck's worth of work done on their faces and bodies, from medspas and surgeons and private chefs and physical trainers and aestheticians of all skillsets.

Tom Cruise at 61, who has spent at least a million dollars on his physical appearance in the last decade, looks absolutely nothing like the average American 61 year old man loading his Costco cart with gallon jugs of mayonnaise and 5-packs of frozen pizzas.

I can’t even with this. My God.

 

[erasure fan1]

Is Tom a cruise allowed to be in Mission Impossible at the age of 61; doing his own stunts? Or are you making that illegal too?

He said he prefers

But when it comes to action stars doing wild stunts, I generally like action stars to not be eligible for Social Security

As far as cruise goes, there's a big difference between a 60 and 80 some year old person. especially when it comes to crazy action. And while cruise might be 60, he definitely doesn't look it. Ford looks every bit his age.

 

[BuddyThomas]

He said he prefers

As far as cruise goes, there's a big difference between a 60 and 80 some year old person. especially when it comes to crazy action. And while cruise might be 60, he definitely doesn't look it. Ford looks every bit his age.

Did you see it?

 

[TP2000]

As far as cruise goes, there's a big difference between a 60 and 80 some year old person. especially when it comes to crazy action. And while cruise might be 60, he definitely doesn't look it. Ford looks every bit his age.

Bingo.

60 is not 80. And Tom Cruise is not a normal human.

What's fascinating about Maverick is that it takes place 35 years after the first movie, but they pretend it's only 30 years because every veteran in the audience would know Maverick is not a flag Officer and thus as a Captain he would have been forced to retire by age 62 which makes no sense mathematically from the first film in 1986.

And they certainly don't let them be active test pilots at that age.

But, aesthetically at least, it still worked (barely) for Tom Cruise in Maverick. And the box office ate it up.

 

[erasure fan1]

Did you see it?

Not yet. But I'm not sure what that has to do with this. A poster said he prefers a younger action star. And you brought up Cruise who in no way resembles Ford from an age standpoint. I know plenty of mid 40s people who don't look as good as Cruise. And most importantly, I don't need to see Indy to know or think that. If you've noticed, I have not said ANYTHING about the quality of the film. I'm still looking forward to seeing it. I've been an Indy fan my whole life.

 

[BuddyThomas]

Not yet. But I'm not sure what that has to do with this. A poster said he prefers a younger action star. And you brought up Cruise who in no way resembles Ford from an age standpoint. I know plenty of mid 40s people who don't look as good as Cruise. And most importantly, I don't need to see Indy to know or think that. If you've noticed, I have not said ANYTHING about the quality of the film. I'm still looking forward to seeing it. I've been an Indy fan my whole life.

Good.

 

[CinematicFusion]

Not yet. But I'm not sure what that has to do with this. A poster said he prefers a younger action star. And you brought up Cruise who in no way resembles Ford from an age standpoint. I know plenty of mid 40s people who don't look as good as Cruise. And most importantly, I don't need to see Indy to know or think that. If you've noticed, I have not said ANYTHING about the quality of the film. I'm still looking forward to seeing it. I've been an Indy fan my whole life.

you will enjoy the film

 

[Casper Gutman]

Again, you didn’t see it so you do not know what you are talking about. Again, there are plenty of older action stars. Is Tom a cruise allowed to be in Mission Impossible at the age of 61; doing his own stunts? Or are you making that illegal too?

"No one wants to see OLD action stars!" - someone who is pretending not to have been paying attention to American cinema for the last 20 years

Let's look at the 2023 action slate: John Wick 4, with 58 year old Keanu Reeves; M:I Dead Reckoning, with 61 year old Tom Cruise; Equalizer 3, with 68 year old Denzel Washington. Buncha spring chickens!

Why doesn't Hollywood just cast all those YOUNG stars, like... um... well, the Rock just got humbled, and he's 51 anyway... Dave Bautista? Oh, he's 54. So what young action stars are we pretending can open a film?

 

[GimpYancIent]

Bingo.

60 is not 80. And Tom Cruise is not a normal human.

What's fascinating about Maverick is that it takes place 35 years after the first movie, but they pretend it's only 30 years because every veteran in the audience would know Maverick is not a flag Officer and thus as a Captain he would have been forced to retire by age 62 which makes no sense mathematically from the first film in 1986.

And they certainly don't let them be active test pilots at that age.

But, aesthetically at least, it still worked (barely) for Tom Cruise in Maverick. And the box office ate it up.

Details, Details, Details. I am an old vet. You are correct that in the movie Tom Cruise (Maverick) is a Captain and not a flag rank officer I.E. an Admiral. However, he is not a Warrant Officer, he is a Commissioned Officer. Regardless, due to Maverick's antics he retained his Commission and O6 (Captain) but could not make the upward move to Flag Rank O7 (Rear Admiral). There is no Warrant rating in Maverick's career path. Of interest though is the fact Maverick had three dogfight kills to his credit going into the movie and before the end of the movie it was assured, he got two more so he could be an ACE. For a fighter pilot that is the way to close a career.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny Causes Big Boost For Original Trilogy on Disney+

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[MoonRakerSCM]

First (only?) time Indiana Jones has been a 'thing' where a lot of younger people haven't watched them and it's easy for friends/family to sit them down and show them the trilogy on D+. I got a new co-worker who is absolutely hopeless- "What do you mean you haven't seen and can't quote a film that came out 15 years before you were born!?"

 

[cookiee_munster]

It's a good film. Not the greatest film ever. But a hell of a lot better than crystal skull.

 

[CinematicFusion]

According to Deadline, the latest Mission: Impossiblemovie is preparing for an opening of $250 million from Wednesday to Sunday.
Also said strong potential for upside to that number.

Looks like it will end it run around 850 million, slim chance it crosses 1 billion.

 

[Tha Realest]

According to Deadline, the latest Mission: Impossiblemovie is preparing for an opening of $250 million from Wednesday to Sunday.
Also said strong potential for upside to that number.

Looks like it will end it run around 850 million, slim chance it crosses 1 billion.

Tremendously excited about this movie. It’s the best active film series going, and each film gets better and better. It elevated with the addition of Rebecca Ferguson’s Faust and hasn’t stopped there. And, it’s always had a very diverse cast.

 

[Casper Gutman]

According to Deadline, the latest Mission: Impossiblemovie is preparing for an opening of $250 million from Wednesday to Sunday.
Also said strong potential for upside to that number.

Looks like it will end it run around 850 million, slim chance it crosses 1 billion.

I love M:I. It may be my favorite ongoing franchise. But this article is projecting a $90 million 5-day domestic opening.

Indy had $82 million. Not a world of difference.

Now, I fully expect M:I to have much longer legs (the reviews are excellent) and to do much better overall. But this an interesting example of how framing alters a story.

 

[TalkingHead]

I love M:I. It may be my favorite ongoing franchise. But this article is projecting a $90 million 5-day domestic opening.

Indy had $82 million. Not a world of difference.

Now, I fully expect M:I to have much longer legs (the reviews are excellent) and to do much better overall. But this an interesting example of how framing alters a story.

Framing does matter but MI is also estimated at $250m global for the opening; after two weeks Indy 5 is just now getting to that number.

Also significant that Indy’s 5-day had four weekend/holidays/days off so the expectation is people would have more free time to see it.

I think it’s symptomatic of Hollywood’s problems that internet movie talk has increasingly become focused on box office numbers. Not a good sign for the business when the box score is more interesting than the game itself.