Iger shoots down idea of Dreamfinder return to JII

[mickey2008.1]

I cant believe Iger listened that long, i fast forwarded some of it and it still was going on. I would have pluto attack him and moved on. I give him credit for patience.
And yes, JII is not the same, it does neeed help.

 

[devoy1701]

I cant believe Iger listened that long, i fast forwarded some of it and it still was going on. I would have pluto attack him and moved on. I give him credit for patience.
And yes, JII is not the same, it does neeed help.

he asked him twice to wrap it up...kind of funny. I woulda been like "YOU TELL EM IGER!!!!"

seriously...there isn't much that Iger has done that I've liked so far...but if he has to deal with 10 minute dribble like that, i wouldn't bring bring Dreamfinder back either!

 

[Wilt Dasney]

I just listened to Iger's answer again. What stood out to me was his statement at the end that "I don't think our entertainment offerings suffer from not having Dreamfinder."

That's a pretty candid statement of his personal feeling that the character just isn't that important.

Anyway, other than that, I don't think there's anything concrete here. You could hear that answer and conclude anything you want, really...which is how it was intended to read, I'm sure.

 

[wm49rs]

I just listened to Iger's answer again. What stood out to me was his statement at the end that "I don't think our entertainment offerings suffer from not having Dreamfinder."

That's a pretty candid statement of his personal feeling that the character just isn't that important.

Anyway, other than that, I don't think there's anything concrete here. You could hear that answer and conclude anything you want, really...which is how it was intended to read, I'm sure.

Precisely. Bland, non-statement statements......

 

[WDW1974]

Actually the movie is made my Marvel not Paramount. Paramount is only distributing the movie. Therefore Disney will be getting the bulk of the profit from this one not Paramount.

Not the point, but you are correct.

The fact is this is a film that will do big at the BO and Disney had/has absolutely nothing to do with, but there's Iger taking credit and basking like it was something he had anything to do with.

Of course, there was another reason for showing it at the meeting. Disney is actively trying to strong arm Paramount into taking a payoff so Iron Man 3 will have a castle at the start. There's a lot of backroom lawyering going on ...

What worries me above all is the idea Iger seems to have that distribution is more important than content ... that technology and multiple platforms are more important than a vibrant creative studio.

But this is a trend with Disney ... after all, RFID is all about making you realize how passe the traditional Disney park visit has been ... oops, new tangent.

 

[WDW1974]

The way he handled some of the questions seems kind of arrogant....at least Iger acknowledged Roy E. Disney and all he did for WDFA.

Iger is arrogant. No surprise there. I've never met anyone at that level who isn't.

But Eisner could be very down to Earth (although he could turn on a dime) ... and Roy Disney came off like an every man despite his name and his wealth (but again, he came from a creative background).

That said, I think Iger greatly overestimates his talent and abilities. The good thing is I truly don't see him being with the company nearly as long as Michael.

At this point, I doubt he'll be there when Shanghai DL gets done ...

 

[WDW1974]

Yeah that's what I don't like about these shareholder events - sometimes the people who ask the questions that should be asked are the absolute worst stereotypes of what sneering Disney execs think all fans are. It doesn't help the cause.

No, they don't do us favors ... but Disney would so much rather them.

They like the dumb questions ... the poorly thought out ... the people who fumble and stumble and bumble.

You think they want to go back and forth with someone about say ... the monorail safety issue at WDW ... the amount of WDW CMs who can barely afford to eat and shelter themselves based on what they get paid ... or any issue that will showcase just what kind of cutthroat operation TWDC can be?

Nah. Much better to talk Dreamfinder and Song of the South ...

 

[WDW1974]

Know what's annoying to me, much more so than this odd guy and his question?
That nobody, fan or shareholder, took the opportunity to stand up and ask why the huge E ticket ride they spent $100mil on four years ago has almost none of it's effects working. Including it's highly publicized, highly touted star AA.
And why it seems like nobody in management seems to care?

THAT would be a reasonable question to ask. Not a fanboy-centric, over-long question that kinda puts all fans in a bad light.

That would have been a great question ... and a fair one ... and then the questioner could have 'piled on' by pointing out the godawful show quality of many of DAK's premier attractions.

 

[Maerj]

"appeal to all ages" != show whose primary audience is pre-school aged children. :brick:

Same thing could be said about a certain cartoon mouse but I see adults spending thousands of dollrs and waiting in long lines to meet him.

Anyway, I wasn't saying to replicate their show exactly but to use the characters and the Idea Warehouse to create a new story and attraction that could appeal to all ages. There's a lot of people who probably have never even heard of them so they'd just think that its an original thing just for the attraction.

Its a moot point anyway since we're probably just going to continue having the same 3D movie and watered down ride we've had there for years.

 

[HMF]

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At this point, I doubt he'll be there when Shanghai DL gets done ...

I never thought I would want Iger gone but judging by what I am hearing about him. I now really want him gone.

 

[goreesha]

Not the point, but you are correct.

The fact is this is a film that will do big at the BO and Disney had/has absolutely nothing to do with, but there's Iger taking credit and basking like it was something he had anything to do with.

Iron Man 2 will make big bucks for Disney. Whether or not Disney or Iger had anything whatsoever to do with making the movie, the money it will bring in for the company is good for shareholders. That's reason enough to show it at the shareholders meeting, I would think.

 

[RoRo]

Same thing could be said about a certain cartoon mouse but I see adults spending thousands of dollrs and waiting in long lines to meet him.

Anyway, I wasn't saying to replicate their show exactly but to use the characters and the Idea Warehouse to create a new story and attraction that could appeal to all ages. There's a lot of people who probably have never even heard of them so they'd just think that its an original thing just for the attraction.

Its a moot point anyway since we're probably just going to continue having the same 3D movie and watered down ride we've had there for years.

I have seen the show (I have a younger brother) and I definatley think that it does not belong in Epcot at all. The characters are soooo cheesy(and a bit creepy :lookaroun) and we don't need another "institute or warehouse" theme. The warehouse is just a bunch of rooms with all different objects and stuff (ex: music room), it wouldn't be that good of a attraction at all. It would not appeal to all ages because I am a teen and I think its a cheesy show, even though it does the show tells you to use your imagination (seems like a repeat of Journey Into Your Imagination), it wouldn't be right for the Imagination pavilion. Mickey Mouse is timeless, you can't even compare that.

 

[imagineer boy]

I have seen the show (I have a younger brother) and I definatley think that it does not belong in Epcot at all. The characters are soooo cheesy(and a bit creepy :lookaroun) and we don't need another "institute or warehouse" theme. The warehouse is just a bunch of rooms with all different objects and stuff (ex: music room), it wouldn't be that good of a attraction at all. It would not appeal to all ages because I am a teen and I think its a cheesy show, even though it does the show tells you to use your imagination (seems like a repeat of Journey Into Your Imagination), it wouldn't be right for the Imagination pavilion. Mickey Mouse is timeless, you can't even compare that.

But it can all be reimagined for a newer audience. Dream Finder can be de-80s-ified to appeal to a new generation of park goers.

 

[drew81]

Iger is arrogant. No surprise there. I've never met anyone at that level who isn't.

But Eisner could be very down to Earth (although he could turn on a dime) ... and Roy Disney came off like an every man despite his name and his wealth (but again, he came from a creative background).

That said, I think Iger greatly overestimates his talent and abilities. The good thing is I truly don't see him being with the company nearly as long as Michael.

At this point, I doubt he'll be there when Shanghai DL gets done ...

Maybe Iger feels he's more creative then he actually is? I don't see much creative force coming from him. To me, everything is very blah.

No, they don't do us favors ... but Disney would so much rather them.

They like the dumb questions ... the poorly thought out ... the people who fumble and stumble and bumble.

You think they want to go back and forth with someone about say ... the monorail safety issue at WDW ... the amount of WDW CMs who can barely afford to eat and shelter themselves based on what they get paid ... or any issue that will showcase just what kind of cutthroat operation TWDC can be?

Nah. Much better to talk Dreamfinder and Song of the South ...

I would love to see someone ask a few of these pertinent questions.

 

[muteki]

Same thing could be said about a certain cartoon mouse but I see adults spending thousands of dollrs and waiting in long lines to meet him.

Anyway, I wasn't saying to replicate their show exactly but to use the characters and the Idea Warehouse to create a new story and attraction that could appeal to all ages. There's a lot of people who probably have never even heard of them so they'd just think that its an original thing just for the attraction.

Its a moot point anyway since we're probably just going to continue having the same 3D movie and watered down ride we've had there for years.

I guarantee you Mickey's current draw is not due to his current incarnation on the Disney channel. The concept of "appealing to all ages" has changed greatly over the years but today is mostly biased towards those of a younger age. Therefore, it should not be used as a reason to remodel a ride that is supposed to appeal to everyone, which the Imagination Movers do not.

 

[ABigBrassBand]

Take this with a grain of salt, remember what Eisner said?

 

[jt04]

Take this with a grain of salt, remember what Eisner said?

Eisner said someting? Please elaborate.:shrug:

 

[DisneyNut2007]

Maybe Iger feels he's more creative then he actually is? I don't see much creative force coming from him. To me, everything is very blah.

OMFG, now you're becoming another Iger-basher too?!

Stop it, Drew! You're only killing your own credibility more and more by giving in to all the surrounding peer pressure here.

As for WDW1974, HMF, etc., you all need to button your lips as well and stop saying bad things about Iger, starting this instant!

 

[RoRo]

But it can all be reimagined for a newer audience. Dream Finder can be de-80s-ified to appeal to a new generation of park goers.

A pre-school show cannot get reimagined to appeal to newer audiences. Imagination Movers is a pre-school show, bottom line. Dreamfinder is a character created for Epcot and for all ages, he is not only for pre-schoolers. People 9 and up and older will just roll their eyes at the Imaginaton Movers.

 

[_Scar]

Did Iger have a hand in killing another one of Disney's semi-successful animation studio?

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