I successfully stoped a group of line cutters!!!

[PalisadesPkteer]

Its line jumping if for a given guest their actual wait time is changed in-queue by someone going in front of them that wasn't there previously, regardless of the reason. If they couldn't get to the line in time to join with their friends then they will have to wait the same amount of time as everyone else entering the line at that point in time, or make there friends come back to meet them in the back of the line.

The example with kids already in line and the restroom is not line jumping, because whether or not the kids had to go or not, the wait time for those behind them would remain unchanged. However, the example with the kids having to go prior to lining up and them sending dad or whoever to join and hold a spot for them is line jumping.

If part of a group wants to join the remainder further up in line it is jumping, because it will extend the wait time of everyone behind the in-line group because the joining group was never there, unlike in the first kids situation.

Another way to think about it would be if Disney had a way of accurately, in real time, tracking how long the wait to the ride would be. Every rider entering the queue would be given a contract stating that the advertised time would have to be adhered to. Anything that would cause the actual wait time to not match the advertised should be considered line jumping.

And while this complaint is often made against "brazilian tour groups", I do believe it has some degree of merit because I have experienced it myself first hand on more than one occasion. Carrying a backpack and physically blocking the path of jumpers generally works for me.

This is the Best explanation. Agree with this 100 %

 

[TimNRA757]

I was in line for Splash Mountain some time ago, given it wasn't very long but there was a group of 4 of these little punk kids maybe between 12 and 14, who jump into the FP lane then get sent back and come back to ask me if they could cut in front of me. I don't know if it's because I happened to be the youngest around or what, but I politely but firmly said you got out of line now exit and get back in line at the beginning. Then they got lippy with me whining about how they didn't know this or that and ended up to the point that another guest went ahead and got CM to escort them out of the line. I seriously want to know what is wrong with parents these days that raise kids to act like this.

 

[Irishprincess]

To Grizzly hall 71 and innovations I feel and maybe others that you are expressing your opinoins too strongly! You are also acting has if everyone else's opinon is wrong!

I have also had many encouters with Tour groups and I believe that people are not exaggerating!

So in the future just let people express their opinons and you can express yours!

 

[trr1]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nemo14
I call it being rude. When we used to go as a family, if anyone stopped to look in a shop, buy a drink, use the bathroom, or whatever, we didn't race ahead and save them a place in line. Usually we'd head to our ride and wait to get in line until everyone was with us. My kids didn't always appreciate having to wait, but they learned manners.

Nemo14 wins! This is the way it should be done.

I agree and if you get out of line you start over again

 

[SOLISIMO]

This just makes me shake my head at your post, I agree line jumping is not permitted, but do we need to put the "brazilian tour group" spin on it. There is not a battle going on in WDW between non tour group v. tour group people

BC 100% of the brazilian tour groups are annoying

 

[Innoventions]

Okay so how does 4 people who are in line waiting, then 2 leave to go to the bathroom and come back hold up, or change the wait time? The wait time stayed the same. Unless the 2 who stayed literally did not move or let anyone by until the other 2 came back.

If you are that idiotic to think that 2 people WAITING in line...JUST those 2 people waiting allow 2-3-4-5-6-7 or however many people in line who were in the bathroom, or experiencing something else does not effect the line. Then you really need to re evaluate your reason for being on earth.

The 2 people leaving actually help you out a bit, but eventually put you right back in the same predicament you were originally in. If it changed your wait time by 1 second then it would be wrong. But it does not change a thing.

The 2-3-4-5-6-7 people coming who WERE NOT in line already being they were just standing at the entrance talking to the CM, or picking their nose CHANGE your, and everyone else time on the ride.

Its freaking obvious...think about what one is wrong and right.

Notice how i said that people who were waiting in line already and needed to use the bathroom could leave. I had no problem with that I dont consider that line jumping. But if dad goes to wait, and mom and the kids go use the bathroom than thats still considered line jumping. My whole point and I think people are failing to see for some reason is that, I dont know whether to allow or disallow line jumping. I said if a family of 4 can do it, where dad waits, and later the kids and mom come, than a group can do it. Yes size would end up lengthening the wait time, yet if one party is allowed, all parties must be able to. Or if one party cant than all cant.

 

[Innoventions]

To Grizzly hall 71 and innovations I feel and maybe others that you are expressing your opinoins too strongly! You are also acting has if everyone else's opinon is wrong!

I have also had many encouters with Tour groups and I believe that people are not exaggerating!

So in the future just let people express their opinons and you can express yours!

Im not, im very open, its readers that overreact. or are troubled by the opposite side of an argument. Im actually, if people read my posts, right in the middle of the line jumping issue. Closer to the side of it being a negative thing, read my first post, I specifically state I dont agree with line jumping.

 

[Bluewaves]

Line jumpers should be shot, its my personal pet peeve at all amusement parks

 

[bartbrine]

Also my pet peeve!! We go every year to WDW and NEVER has anyone (as hard as they try) been able to cut in line of ME and my family (my family just steps aside & lets me do my thing)its not right, its not fair..dont care if its the president of the united states..if your behind me..ITS where you will stay!!!!!!!!:fork::fork::fork::fork:

 

[gwhb75]

I just don't see what age has to do with it. It's an excuse, or an easy way to blame something on someone.

I am 31, I am probably the most immature acting 31 year old you will ever meet.

No I am (now it's your turn to say, No I am. We could totally fill this thread).

 

[blackthidot]

Notice how i said that people who were waiting in line already and needed to use the bathroom could leave. I had no problem with that I dont consider that line jumping. But if dad goes to wait, and mom and the kids go use the bathroom than thats still considered line jumping. My whole point and I think people are failing to see for some reason is that, I dont know whether to allow or disallow line jumping. I said if a family of 4 can do it, where dad waits, and later the kids and mom come, than a group can do it. Yes size would end up lengthening the wait time, yet if one party is allowed, all parties must be able to. Or if one party cant than all cant.

And I said if Dad goes to wait and mom and anyone else WERE NOT EVER IN LINE then it is BS for them to come join him. THAT CHANGES WAIT TIMES. That is line jumping.

 

[blackthidot]

No I am (now it's your turn to say, No I am. We could totally fill this thread).

I am.

 

[unkadug]

Oh grow a pair.
I am 18 and I even think you two are being childish. :wave:

Thankfully, I totally missed that comment the first time around or he wouldn't need a pair.

Ohhhhhhh noooo you di'int...you spelleded my name wrong!!!

:ROFLOL:

 

[tink729]

This just makes me shake my head at your post, I agree line jumping is not permitted, but do we need to put the "brazilian tour group" spin on it. There is not a battle going on in WDW between non tour group v. tour group people

You do realize that the OP did not once specify whether the tour group was Brazilian? You brought that in on your own.

 

[gwhb75]

I am.

No I am. Mom... Blackthidot's hand is on my side

 

[blackthidot]

Haha

 

[David Roberts]

You do realize that the OP did not once specify whether the tour group was Brazilian? You brought that in on your own.

Some racist thoughts, Innoventions???:ROFLOL:

 

[hemloc]

I certainly hope these 2 don't have driver's licenses. I'd hate to see what they do when they don't feel like waiting in line at a red light(Passing in a turn lane or on the sidewalk would be acceptable, given their logic!!)!!

Bottom line is, they illustrate everything that is wrong with MOST younger people these days. NO FRIKKIN' RESPECT FOR THE RULES!!! Oh, and the sense of entitlement is obnoxious, too. :fork:

Maybe when a large group of BRAZILIAN tour group brats bumrushes a line, jumping over fences, gates, chains and queues, and in the process, separating them from their 10 year old and knocking him down(Without even a sorry, or stopping!), these guys will get the hint that something ain't right or acceptable with this kind of behavior. And don't even get me started on that inane chanting INSIDE that was so loud, I couldn't even hear myself think, much less have a normal conversation with anyone around me. Thankfully, this happened at Universal on The Mummy and they DID get booted.

They need to open the parks overnight for large tour groups only. Let these morons run loose all they want, then.

 

[unkadug]

I certainly hope these 2 don't have driver's licenses. I'd hate to see what they do when they don't feel like waiting in line at a red light(Passing in a turn lane or on the sidewalk would be acceptable, given their logic!!)!!

Bottom line is, they illustrate everything that is wrong with MOST younger people these days. NO FRIKKIN' RESPECT FOR THE RULES!!! Oh, and the sense of entitlement is obnoxious, too. :fork:

Maybe when a large group of BRAZILIAN tour group brats bumrushes a line, jumping over fences, gates, chains and queues, and in the process, separating them from their 10 year old and knocking him down(Without even a sorry, or stopping!), these guys will get the hint that something ain't right or acceptable with this kind of behavior. And don't even get me started on that inane chanting INSIDE that was so loud, I couldn't even hear myself think, much less have a normal conversation with anyone around me. Thankfully, this happened at Universal on The Mummy and they DID get booted.

They need to open the parks overnight for large tour groups only. Let these morons run loose all they want, then.

Oouuuuhhhh....I'm telling....:lol:


I suggested something similar and was called a racist.


Oh...I'm pretty sure that neither of them have a driver's license much less a learner's permit.

 

[hiddenMICKEY815]

It is ageism. All the people here who are adults know the meaning of line cutting and what is acceptable behavior.

All the children/teenagers here think that line cutting is perfectly acceptable.

NOW...the line has been drawn....where do you stand?

well i guess im the odd one out, im 17 therefore a teenager and personally if youre not in the line with your group when they get in line you have no right to join them. because that IS line cutting/jumping whatever you want to call that. so if you are so against people being racist or prejudice about tour groups you better not make similar comments about age groups.