Hurricane Ian expected to impact Florida (updates and related discussions)

[CJR]

Controlling access is definitely going to be key to reopening. A lot of people are out from work and school tomorrow, so they will no doubt be careful who goes in. I don't expect them to just let everyone rush over in hope of a slower day.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No what I'm saying is the cost of getting the power will be higher when they amortize the cost of putting the lines underground and people don't want to pay it. This is an issue in the north also for winter storms with ice on the lines and other things but they're aren't very many places that put above ground lines underground.

What you’re describing there is what I call “advanced civilization”

 

[DisneyDreamer08]

The wording of “phased reopening” makes me think Springs will open first. With the parks opening later in the day tomorrow or perhaps not at all.

 

[MickeyFan87]

Hello we are supposed to arrive in Disney on Saturday (10/1) and hit the parks Sunday - Tuesday. Curious, historically are the parks emptier after hurricanes? Are they short-staffed so not all rides, etc are open?

 

[JohnD]

After each hurricane hitting the state's capital since Kate in 1985, we've had discussions about burying power lines. But the cost is exorbitant and the City would have to pass the cost on to each utility customer...for several years. No one demanded their bill go up 5% to 10% every month to pay for it.

Tallahassee, being a canopy city, could stand to have underground utilities. As we learned with Hermine in 2016 it doesn't take much to lose power. Trees fall over power lines. There goes power. Southwood has underground power lines but guess where the power lines are located outside of Southwood. Yep above ground. But, yeah, who wants to pay 5 to 10% increase in utilities with property taxes and other taxes going up each year?

 

[mikejs78]

The wording of “phased reopening” makes me think Springs will open first. With the parks opening later in the day tomorrow or perhaps not at all.

Could also be some parks open for some guests - i.e. Epcot and DHS open for resort guests only...

 

[Gringrinngghost]

 

[plutofan15]

Controlling access is definitely going to be key to reopening. A lot of people are out from work and school tomorrow, so they will no doubt be careful who goes in. I don't expect them to just let everyone rush over in hope of a slower day.

In the past, admission has been limited to on site guests only.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I am just pondering aloud, again I admit we cannot control everything, and weather is of course more erratic and evolving in ways we have not seen.

I don't know all the answers, but I do know humans have a history of survival, and moving where it may be safer when needed is a possibility that could be considered for specific regions where such a migration could be possible.

I shall ponder to myself.

It makes sense on a local level, I grew up in a city with a river valley in the middle, every couple decades the river floods and destroys everything within about a mile… then people rebuild in the same flood plain.

99% of the surrounding land is above the flood plain but people like their river views, it makes no sense. The coast is the same scenario, odds are you’re going to get destroyed by a storm at some point but everyone loves the beach.

You can’t avoid natural disasters completely but there’s a lot of localized problem areas that are 100% preventable.

I was gonna mention this upthread…

I have had pretty intensive experience with the aftermath of Hurricanes Irene and Sandy…now ten years on and still impacting decisions…

Humans have really put themselves at larger risk because of their decisions on habitat and development.

The sea walls and spillways are not big enough…or close to it…
And no one should ever sleep on a mattress located in a flood plain. We know where those are down to the inch too…cause science.

We also shouldn’t eat oysters…interesting tangent.

 

[Phil12]

There is hurricane season June 1 until Nov 1. There is no season for earthquakes. If the San Andreas really does erupt , Arizona may be oceanfront property.

The official dates for the Atlantic hurricane season are June 1 through Nov. 30.

 

[Disorbust]

In the past, admission has been limited to on site guests only.

but that was prior to the park reservation system.
I would think they have honor those.

 

[flynnibus]

I'm sure THAT place is a mess... just cleaning up all the beach area has to be a nightmare.. let alone cleaning out all the overflow everywhere.

 

[MrPromey]

so as the storm shifted roughly 48 hours out and continued to shift - did he warn anyone where the storm actually came ashore?

Local news was updating constantly.

Those of us in the impacted and potentially impacted areas who were paying attention knew where it was.

This was no failure of reporting.

 

[Disorbust]

It makes sense on a local level, I grew up in a city with a river valley in the middle, every couple decades the river floods and destroys everything within about a mile… then people rebuild in the same flood plain.

99% of the surrounding land is above the flood plain but people like their river views, it makes no sense. The coast is the same scenario, odds are you’re going to get destroyed by a storm at some point but everyone loves the beach.

You can’t avoid natural disasters completely but there’s a lot of localized problem areas that are 100% preventable.

I believe it was 60 minutes that did a story on how Huston Tx is constantly rebuilding houses in the flood plains and the flood insurance is provided by the Federal Government. The government cost was astronomical and the point was it's unsustainable.

 

[marni1971]

Local news was updating constantly.

Those of us in the impacted and potentially impacted areas who were paying attention knew where it was.

This was no failure of reporting.

This.

 

[StarWarsGirl]

I would think they have honor those.

Their terms and conditions state that they reserve the right to cancel any reservations.

So, no they do not have to.

 

[MickeyLuv'r]

No what I'm saying is the cost of getting the power will be higher when they amortize the cost of putting the lines underground and people don't want to pay it. This is an issue in the north also for winter storms with ice on the lines and other things but they're aren't very many places that put above ground lines underground.

Okay the whole powerline discussion is off-topic, but my area used to have very unreliable power. The power company stalled for years, and the politicians did not hold them accountable. Three major price increases were added, to pay for improvements that never happened.

When the power company wanted yet another price hike, the politicians finally had had enough. They said NO, not UNTIL significant improvements are made. Lo and behold, they made significant improvements within a year. That was about 5 years ago. Now power outages are rare.

Three major improvements:
1. Burying all lines wasn't the whole solution. It was a portion of the solution to bury some lines. From what I gather, newly buried lines were major lines and/or those most in need of replacing.
2. Added more advanced switches, so when an outage occurs, the can automatically reroute power.
3. Improved existing overhead lines.

AFTER they made changes, rates have gone up some, but nothing crazy. In return they also offer incentives, like rebates if you replace old stuff with ENERGY STAR appliances, lighting, etc. You can get almost free lightbulbs, and a smart-thermostat. Anyone who wants to lower their bill can have a free home inspection, and they will show you options to lower your bill. Not perfect, but better.

 

[plutofan15]

but that was prior to the park reservation system.
I would think they have honor those.

That is under normal circumstances, this is not normal. I would think that limiting entrance to those on site would be safer than having people off site driving on roads which could be flooded.

 

[Hawg G]

The one at 50 and Hancock in Clermont is open. Saw a pic of it with the line out the door. I too considered going for a post-storm meal.

Yeah, REALLY not wanting pizza again Tonight. Any open restaurants around Universal, please list.

 

[Gringrinngghost]

Cast members are being told that if their shift starts at or later then 9PM, that they are to report to work.