How will Universal's Epic Universe effect Disney?

celluloid

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Yep, Nintendo absolutely does, which is why they were a good get for Universal. They're probably the best option period for theme parks in the video game realm.

There may be fluctuation in the attention and numbers video games get.

But there is no better option for the daily operation of pleasing the entire family with a video game property than Nintendo.

Far more people watch Family Guy than Mickey Mouse, but I don't want to take my family to spend a day in a Family Guy Land over what Disney has to offer.
 

Alanzo

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There may be fluctuation in the attention and numbers video games get.

But there is no better option for the daily operation of pleasing the entire family with a video game property than Nintendo.

Far more people watch Family Guy than Mickey Mouse, but I don't want to take my family to spend a day in a Family Guy Land over what Disney has to offer.

Agreed. There is no other brand even close to Nintendo's tier. Nintendo might as well sit on Tier A and everyone else starts at Tier C.
 

celluloid

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I'm not expecting every video game to be utilized, but Nintendo themselves have a lot of games that could be translated into games.

What people love about Super Mario is the ability to connect coins, and interact with characters... the land itself offers those opportunities. I do think it's a miss that Mario Kart doesn't have a "fast" section, but it also needed to feature an interactive element like it currently has.

If one of the sequel or spin offs of Illumination's Mario Movie is Luigi's Mansion, we could have another fun dark ride along with the other Nintendo potential.
 

JusticeDisney

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More of an educated guess. With evidence from the companies as there is less Twilight Zone, Areosmith and Muppets than ever(which I love and adore) and Super Nintendo will have three lands in Universal theme parks and new attractions by 2026.

Its not exactly a bold statement to say Nintendo interests more than Muppets, Areosmith and Twilight Zone.
Actually, very fair assessment by you.
 

celluloid

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Actually, very fair assessment by you.

It is called an Observation.
An opinion would be:

Dang I am not a Nintendo Fan. I enjoy Twilight Zone and Muppets far better. (I really do like them more than Nintendo)

The observation of the fact is "I know that currently, Nintendo is more popular than The Muppets and Twilight Zone and Areosmith.


So in this observation, it becomes fact that Universal has something more of interest to people than what is Sunset Blvd at DHS.
 

JusticeDisney

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It is called an Observation.
An opinion would be:

Dang I am not a Nintendo Fan. I enjoy Twilight Zone and Muppets far better. (I really do)

The observation of the fact is "I know that currently, Nintendo is more popular than The Muppets and Twilight Zone and Areosmith.


So in this observation, it becomes fact that Universal has something more of interest to people than what is Sunset Blvd at DHS.
Well, I was trying to compliment you but since you don’t seem to want to accept it, let me say this. Literally nothing you said is anything other than a mere opinion.
 

the.dreamfinder

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Unfortunately what they will copy is the variability of ticketing options built into this park. By segmenting the lands they can extract as much money as your wallet and desire for experiences can bear. If you only have a little money they will sell you a taste.....
This is what they wanted to do with Galaxy’s Edge.
 

celluloid

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Well, I was trying to compliment you but since you don’t seem to want to accept it, let me say this. Literally nothing you said is anything other than a mere opinion.

Your closest thing to a compliment was rather backhanded.
I don't want a compliment if it is not genuine.

Observation is the truth. Nintendo has more popular interest as a whole than Aerosmith or The Twilight Zone. IT does not mean that others do not enjoy the others, but globally Nintendo owns those ten times over. It does not even mean the theme park attractions of Nintendo are better, but as an Intellectual Property. Nintendo is the currently. Not saying anything about the quality of what the theme park attractions comparison. The property itself.

You saying it is an opinion does not change the fact. Nor does now adding "merely" to it.


More Ikea meatballs have been sold than Beatles Albums. That is a fact. Even if it was not true it is also a statement.

I don't love the Beatles but I like them more than I care to eat Ikea's Meatballs.- An opinion.
 
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Andrew25

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Pretty sure they dropped the concept of each land being individually priced/packaged. (If they do, shame on Universal for following Disney in making a visit much more difficult to plan.)
 

celluloid

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Pretty sure they dropped the concept of each land being individually priced/packaged. (If they do, shame on Universal for following Disney in making a visit much more difficult to plan.)

That was a rumored idea for the central Hub, but they realized it was not feasible and people spend more money without that concept.
 

JusticeDisney

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It is called an Observation.
An opinion would be:

Dang I am not a Nintendo Fan. I enjoy Twilight Zone and Muppets far better. (I really do)

The observation of the fact is "I know that currently, Nintendo is more popular than The Muppets and Twilight Zone and Areosmith.


So in this observation, it becomes fact that Universal has something more of interest to people than what is Sunset Blvd at DHS.

Your closest thing to a compliment was rather backhanded.
I don't want a compliment if it is not genuine.

Observation is the truth. Nintendo has more popular interest as a whole than Aerosmith or The Twilight Zone. IT does not mean that others do not enjoy the others, but globally Nintendo owns those ten times over. It does not even mean the theme park attractions of Nintendo are better, but as an Intellectual Property. Nintendo is the currently. Not saying anything about the quality of what the theme park attractions comparison. The property itself.

You saying it is an opinion does not change the fact. Nor does now adding "merely" to it.


More Ikea meatballs have been sold than Beatles Albums. That is a fact.

I don't love the Beatles but I like them more than I care to eat Ikea's Meatballs.- An opinion.
I literally said that you made a very fair assessment. The fact that you somehow took that as a backhanded compliment can only signal to me that perhaps you are a bit paranoid.

Anyway, admittedly, it is hard to keep up with you, because you literally change what you say in every other post. That said, you have done nothing in this thread, other than state your mere opinions. Don’t get me wrong, that’s pretty much all that anyone (myself included) is doing in this thread, or on this forum in general, but the fact that you insist that you are not is what is truly hysterical.
 

celluloid

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I literally said that you made a very fair assessment. The fact that you somehow took that as a backhanded compliment can only signal to me that perhaps you are a bit paranoid.

Anyway, admittedly, it is hard to keep up with you, because you literally change what you say in every other post. That said, you have done nothing in this thread, other than state your mere opinions. Don’t get me wrong, that’s pretty much all that anyone (myself included) is doing in this thread, or on this forum in general, but the fact that you insist that you are not is what is truly hysterical.
Why would I trust someone who was just so rude and has been before?

You are frustrated or confused on why I would not consider your compliment when you have more than once insulted me and others on here for more than here? I am glad you say your compliment was genuine, but I am not going to pretend it means a lot.
What good is a compliment if what comes before and after it is insulting tripe? "Actually, a very fair assessment by you."
Those context details in addition to what you have posted before and after makes it fair to presume it would be backhanded.

Not sure what I have changed in every other post.


Thank you for the compliment of the fair assessment. You not seeing the evidence did not make the observation statement an opinion.

It is a fact that Nintendo makes more money than Twilight Zone makes for CBS. That is a statement. Not an opinion. It could be a wrong statement(it is not) but it is never an opinion. It is not that Twilight Zone is not popular still, but currently, Nintendo is far popular.

Remember a statement is something that can be proven or disproven. It is not even had to be true to be a statement.

An opinion can't be. Even if you doubt it is true. what you quoted me was not an opinion.
 
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JusticeDisney

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Why would I trust someone who was just so rude and has been before?

You are frustrated or confused on why I would not consider your compliment when you have more than once insulted me and others on here for more than here? I am glad you say your compliment was genuine, but I am not going to pretend it means a lot.
What good is a compliment if what comes before and after it is insulting tripe? "Actually, a very fair assessment by you."
Those context details in addition to what you have posted before and after makes it fair to presume it would be backhanded.

Thank you for the compliment of the fair assessment. You not seeing the evidence did not make the observation an opinion.
You have pointed to zero evidence here. None.

And I’m sorry to say, but your response confirmed what I feared - you do in fact seem to be a bit paranoid. That’s too bad.
 

celluloid

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You have pointed to zero evidence here. None.

And I’m sorry to say, but your response confirmed what I feared - you do in fact seem to be a bit paranoid. That’s too bad.

Ok, you are just insulting now.

I did post evidence of observation. The one you said fair assessment to. If you want data I guess you could go back pages and see the Nintendo or Mario Sales and compare them to what TW Zone is currently worth as a property to CBS. If you are a numbers person and care that much before you believe.


However, the claim is a statement. Not an opinion.

Nintendo is the most fun ever! Opinion

Nintendo is sold more than Twilight Zone sells. It is provable one way or the other. And even if it was not true. It is not an opinion. It is a statement.

I don't understand how the paranoid definition or diagnosis would fit into any of this discussion.
 

JusticeDisney

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Ok, you are just insulting now.

I did post evidence of observation. The one you said fair assessment to. If you want data I guess you could go back pages and see the Nintendo or Mario Sales and compare them to what TW Zone is currently worth as a property to CBS. If you are a numbers person and care that much before you believe.


However, the claim is a statement. Not an opinion.

Nintendo is the most fun ever! Opinion

Nintendo is sold more than Twilight Zone sells. It is provable one way or the other. And even if it was not true. It is not an opinion. It is a statement.

I don't understand how the paranoid definition or diagnosis would fit into any of this discussion.
This following is the statement that you made, in response to which I said “nice opinion:”

“Mario will sell far more and connect with far more than Sunset Blvd, Muppets and MMRR”

That statement by you is the very definition of an opinion. It is not a fact. It is not an observation. It is not evidence. It is simply your own personal opinion. But hey, keep insisting otherwise. 🤣

And one last thing, please, PLEASE tell me that you did not just assert that a statement cannot be an opinion. 😳
 

celluloid

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This following is the statement that you made, in response to which I said “nice opinion:”

“Mario will sell far more and connect with far more than Sunset Blvd, Muppets and MMRR”

That statement by you is the very definition of an opinion. It is not a fact. It is not an observation. It is not evidence. It is simply your own personal opinion. But hey, keep insisting otherwise. 🤣

And one last thing, please, PLEASE tell me that you did not just assert that a statement cannot be an opinion. 😳

It is a big like squares and rectangles for the geometry inclined. As an English teacher who goes over the stuff a lot as it is, I don't want to go down a rabbit hole of semantics, but mostly too late.

The statement I made could be proven. Not that it will, not that the results will be true or not. That is what makes it a statement.

I can be proven totally wrong after all is said and done. I am wrong, but what was said was still a statement.
 

JusticeDisney

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It is a big like squares and rectangles. As an English teacher who goes over the stuff a lot as it is, I don't want to go down a rabbit hole of semantics, but mostly too late.

The statement I made could be proven. Not that it will, not that the results will be true or not. That is what makes it a statement.

I can be proven totally wrong after all is said and done. I am wrong, but what was said was still a statement.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
 

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