How will Universal's Epic Universe effect Disney?

[JusticeDisney]

<<This bickering is pointless>>

Best post in this thread.

 

[celluloid]

Well now that, this is settled.

One cool thing is Nintendo Online has a lot of people playing a variety of Mario's Library.(including other games of course) It reintroduced and introduced Mario to people who were not nostlagia playing it on emulators.

It also makes Nintendo more money too.

 

[JusticeDisney]

Well now that, this is settled.

One cool thing is Nintendo Online has a lot of people playing a variety of Mario's Library.(including other games of course) It reintroduced and introduced Mario to people who were not nostlagia playing it on emulators.

It also makes Nintendo more money too.

That first sentence (if you can call it that) doesn’t look like it was written by an English teacher.

Just busting your chops, my friend! Have a great night!

 

[Poseidon Quest]

Pretty sure they dropped the concept of each land being individually priced/packaged. (If they do, shame on Universal for following Disney in making a visit much more difficult to plan.)

It think that they intend to rent out individual lands for private events after the park closes. The setup of the park allows them to do this more easily and probably host numerous private events per night.

 

[BlakeW39]

I mean, Disney's largest competitor opening a brand new multi-billion dollar theme park in Orlando will obviously have some effect on Disney themselves... not sure how anyone here could argue otherwise.

That of course doesn't mean MK's attendence is gonna be halved and those 10 million Disney guests are just gonna head right over to Epic Universe instead..

Because that's insane...

But suggesting Disney and Universal don't compete with one another and that Disney simply doesn't care what Universal does because "a rising tide lifts all ships" or whatever is... also insane, because Universal is obviously a major competitor with Disney in the Orlando marketplace and their new theme park will be one more (expensive, brand new) competitor for Disney's 4, two of which are (sadly) EPCOT and DHS.

 

[Minnesota disney fan]

Why would I trust someone who was just so rude and has been before?

You are frustrated or confused on why I would not consider your compliment when you have more than once insulted me and others on here for more than here? I am glad you say your compliment was genuine, but I am not going to pretend it means a lot.
What good is a compliment if what comes before and after it is insulting tripe? "Actually, a very fair assessment by you."
Those context details in addition to what you have posted before and after makes it fair to presume it would be backhanded.

Not sure what I have changed in every other post.


Thank you for the compliment of the fair assessment. You not seeing the evidence did not make the observation statement an opinion.

It is a fact that Nintendo makes more money than Twilight Zone makes for CBS. That is a statement. Not an opinion. It could be a wrong statement(it is not) but it is never an opinion. It is not that Twilight Zone is not popular still, but currently, Nintendo is far popular.

Remember a statement is something that can be proven or disproven. It is not even had to be true to be a statement.

An opinion can't be. Even if you doubt it is true. what you quoted me was not an opinion.

I used the "ignore" button on this one a while ago! It's nice: LOL

 

[JusticeDisney]

I used the "ignore" button on this one a while ago! It's nice: LOL

Oh, what will my poor broken heart do?

 

[BlakeW39]

Can yall please stop.

Subject: "How will Universal's Epic Universe effect Disney?"

 

[Poseidon Quest]

Subject: "How will Universal's Epic Universe effect Disney?"

Essentially, Disney will be caught off guard because they take their park crowds for granted. I don't think they'll lose enough attendance to make their parks unprofitable by any means, but they'll see enough off a loss to realize that they can't take the income for granted which has so long propped up their riskier media division.

My prediction is that they then scramble in a panic to put new rides in their parks, shoving in more unfulfilling experiences that replace old but well loved attractions, while fixing absolutely none of the capacity or operational issues that are currently pushing consumers away.

 

[networkpro]

Who knows the future as well as all the variables involved? Yes, there's going to be a new amusement park, but exactly how will it get staffed, and by whom? What impact will it have on traffic, housing costs, hotel occupancy, etc?

We, as usual, could wax forever pedantically on the possibilities, but its not productive.

 

[JusticeDisney]

Essentially, Disney will be caught off guard because they take their park crowds for granted. I don't think they'll lose enough attendance to make their parks unprofitable by any means, but they'll see enough off a loss to realize that they can't take the income for granted which has so long propped up their riskier media division.

My prediction is that they then scramble in a panic to put new rides in their parks, shoving in more unfulfilling experiences that replace old but well loved attractions, while fixing absolutely none of the capacity or operational issues that are currently pushing consumers away.

I love how when Universal adds a ride or builds a new park - presumably in an effort to try to lessen the total domination that WDW has always had over it - that is considered a great move by a great company. But when WDW adds a new ride or a new land, they are in total panic mode simply scrambling to try to keep up with Universal.

 

[Poseidon Quest]

I love how when Universal adds a ride or builds a new park - presumably in an effort to try to lessen the total domination that WDW has always had over it - that is considered a great move by a great company. But when WDW adds a new ride or a new land, they are in total panic mode simply scrambling to try to keep up with Universal.

I love how someone who has absolutely no pulse on the industry and has a history of making the absolutely worst remarks in this thread thinks they can come in and pretend that they know better. Is this enough emojis?

 

[JusticeDisney]

I love how someone who has absolutely no pulse on the industry and has a history of making the absolutely worst remarks in this thread thinks they can come in and pretend that they know better. Is this enough emojis? View attachment 700622View attachment 700623View attachment 700624View attachment 700625View attachment 700626View attachment 700627View attachment 700628View attachment 700629

Wow, looks like someone is pretty angry. Maybe a nap would help?

 

[JusticeDisney]

Yeah, but now Universal has Beijing which could bring in huge numbers once China resumes some form of normality. They're not comparable to Merlin either, as their attendance numbers are so high just because they own so many parks. The only competition that really matters is in Hollywood and Florida.

If we look at this with actual context, the Universal Florida parks very much have the ability to outperform Epcot, Hollywood Studios and Animal Kingdom in attendance numbers, something that may realistically happen as Epic continues to entice new visitors as Disney pushes them away. I doubt Hollywood would ever stack up to Disneyland, but they're certainly expanding aggressively. The point isn't topping Disney in attendance numbers, so much as it is making them lose enough people to send them into a panic. Universal is on course to do that. We can easily see how the introduction of Hogsmeade completely changed the trajectory of Disney parks as a response and they're about to do the same thing on a much larger scale.

Yeah, Universal is on course to sending Disney into a panic. Okay. Whatever you say. Talk about being a drama queen.

 

[BlakeW39]

Essentially, Disney will be caught off guard because they take their park crowds for granted. I don't think they'll lose enough attendance to make their parks unprofitable by any means, but they'll see enough off a loss to realize that they can't take the income for granted which has so long propped up their riskier media division.

My prediction is that they then scramble in a panic to put new rides in their parks, shoving in more unfulfilling experiences that replace old but well loved attractions, while fixing absolutely none of the capacity or operational issues that are currently pushing consumers away.

Just anecdotally, my younger (20s) peers already seem to favor Universal to Disney. When I hear them talking about having been to Orlando, I'd say a majority talk about going to the Universal parks instead of WDW. That always surprised me, but with Splash gone at the Magic Kingdom I think my MK day can be replaced with a second at IoA. I think this trend will continue.

Once EU opens I think it'll be by some margin a better park than either DHS or EPCOT. It'll probably have better attractions than MK, and a larger number of attractions than DAK. So if the average consumer has even a modicum of intellect, they very well should choose to go there instead of one of Disney's parks. I mean IoA is already objectively superior to any of Disney's Orlando theme parks (at least, in my opinion), and if Universal has two parks for which that is true then yes Disney is in for some trouble. Especially with Disney creating such crappy attractions and tacky themed lands these days.

 

[JusticeDisney]

Just anecdotally, my younger (20s) peers already seem to favor Universal to Disney. When I hear them talking about having been to Orlando, I'd say a majority talk about going to the Universal parks instead of WDW. That always surprised me, but with Splash gone at the Magic Kingdom I think my MK day can be replaced with a second at IoA. I think this trend will continue.

Once EU opens I think it'll be by some margin a better park than either DHS or EPCOT. It'll probably have better attractions than MK, and a larger number of attractions than DAK. So if the average consumer has even a modicum of intellect, they very well should choose to go there instead of one of Disney's parks. I mean IoA is already objectively superior to any of Disney's Orlando theme parks (at least, in my opinion), and if Universal has two parks for which that is true then yes Disney is in for some trouble. Especially with Disney creating such crappy attractions and tacky themed lands these days.

Anyone with any intellect must choose Universal??? You actually typed that.

 

[BlakeW39]

Anyone with any intellect must choose Universal??? You actually typed that.

I'm aware of what I typed, lol

 

[JusticeDisney]

I'm aware of what I typed, lol

So anyone who has even a low level of intelligence must go to Universal? Okay, gotcha. Great point.

 

[Poseidon Quest]

Wow, looks like someone is pretty angry. Maybe a nap would help?

It seems I hit a nerve. This doesn't seem like a thread that you belong in.

 

[BlakeW39]

So anyone who has even a low level of intelligence must go to Universal? Okay, gotcha. Great point.

Not literally, but if Disney continues to take away what made them unique in the past then deciding between Universal and Disney will no longer be a matter of preference. It'll be a logical decision with a logical answer, universal is by far the superior of the two so go there. Because I'm sorry but TRON is no Hagrid my friend.

EDIT: unless you have very small children of course. Which is obviously not the majority.