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I haven’t done it yet, just going on videos I’ve seen, it’s a cool concept but maybe it doesn’t work in reality.The Nintendo attraction you've labeled as a D is awful.
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I haven’t done it yet, just going on videos I’ve seen, it’s a cool concept but maybe it doesn’t work in reality.The Nintendo attraction you've labeled as a D is awful.
Well the same number of amazing's then. That's pretty good for a park just opening and one that just added an amazing 50 years later to also equal five.
It sounds like EPIC will have the must dos that you say parks require. It could use more icing, but that is what expansion pad and following years are for.
Unanimously*
Dang, wait until they ride Runaway Railway.
I haven’t done it yet, just going on videos I’ve seen, it’s a cool concept but maybe it doesn’t work in reality.
I meant uniformly. Unanimously works too but that's not the word I intended.
They've been on MMRR and liked it a lot more. I don't personally think MMRR looks great in videos (I haven't been on it), but I do think it looks better than the Mario Kart ride.
Of course not, it works in virtual reality.I haven’t done it yet, just going on videos I’ve seen, it’s a cool concept but maybe it doesn’t work in reality.
I meant uniformly. Unanimously works too but that's not the word I intended.
They've been on MMRR and liked it a lot more. I don't personally think MMRR looks great in videos (I haven't been on it), but I do think it looks better than the Mario Kart ride.
The Donkey Kong coaster has the potential to be really good, though.
If you’re going to lecture about facts then maybe get who does the counting right.This isn't even Disney counting. It's the Themed Entertainment Association. You're creating straw man after straw man in an attempt to negate the simple fact that Disney's theme park attendance triples Universal's. What I said about a 100+ million attendance lead is irrefutable fact. Disney's on an entirely different plane of existence than the lesser businesses in the theme park industry.
Europa Park has more attractions and is almost as good as Disney and Universal.It’s a solid lineup, it’s the non rides that are going to ultimately determine where it ranks though, if all of Epic is at the level of the Harry Potter lands it’s going to be spectacular.
We’ve probably all been to parks that blow away both Disney and Universal purely on amazing ride count, but they aren’t Disney or Universal.
For us, Universal was always a "tag-on" visit to our Disney trips (5-6 days at Disney + 1-2 days at Universal). In recent years, getting everything we wanted to do at Universal done in 2 days has been more and more difficult and when Epic Universe opens, it will be impossible. If we keep going to Orlando as frequently as we currently are, we likely will not be able to make our trip any longer forcing us to either choose between doing just Disney or just Universal, or spending insufficient time at one of the two chains to see everything we want and with Universal having all the new "toys" when Epic Universe opens, I suspect we will lean heavier on going to Universal when Epic opens (especially if the amount of "new" stuff at Disney around the time EU opens remains relatively minimal). The fact that hotels at Universal are (generally) less expensive than similar class hotels at Disney will likely further drive our decision to spend more time at Universal.
That was I think a problem. I actually like the concept of VR enhanced dark rides. Rat is a great example of that. I also, for a person who doesn't like roller coasters or heavy motion rides, love FoP and the VR aspect of it. Mario Kart seems to fall in between. It's supposed to be a race. That was always the fun for anyone who played the game, racing and beating your friends (and smashing them with a turtle shell i will admit was a big part of the fun.) But you don't get that true feeling of speed or racing out of the ride. If you wanted to make a VR based shooter, like buzz on steroids, i think it would be a success. But to me a Mario Kart type ride should have been more "racey." Maybe on the order of speed/motion of Dinosaur? You are not going to want to limit your rider base too much with height restrictions, but the race itself should play a big part in ride. I might be showing my age, but a VR based shooting ride based on Contra....someone will be shutting up and taking all my money.From what I've heard about it, a big part of the problem is that it's basically a slow moving dark ride with an AR shooting gallery attached. I think some people will enjoy the shooting gallery aspect and thus like the ride, but it's a weird choice to build a Mario Kart ride that moves slowly. Plus, while shooting shells etc. is part of Mario Kart, it's not at all the focus of the game (they're just a means to an end to help you win the race), so the whole thing is a somewhat strange attempt at capturing the IP.
Now maybe the new SMB movie helps generate more interest in the IP to people unfamiliar with it. And for people who did grow up playing mario, its a neat place to visit. Plus its part of a new park, so there is going to be some appeal just related to the newness of it. But I don't see the widespread appeal/draw that this is going to have (and I don't know a ton about the other Epic Park expansions, other than a planned Harry Potter expansion.) If people like Nintendo they will come, but is it going to make people who have no interest in SMB plan a vacation to go see it? It just didn't feel like it, and for those people it definitely didn't leave them with a feeling like they wanted to come back.
Wait muppets, one ride, and sunset is more than half of a park that includes galaxy’s edge, Toy Story land, RRC, ToT, and a a bunch of shows? I think you math is offMario will sell far more and connect with far more than Sunset Blvd, Muppets and MMRR, which for those paying attention, is more than half of DHS.
It will be more than suitable and fine.
Wait muppets, one ride, and sunset is more than half of a park that includes galaxy’s edge, Toy Story land, RRC, ToT, and a a bunch of shows? I think you math is off
Nintendo (and gaming in general) is a hugely underdeveloped IP the parks can utilize.
Video games are a bit strange for theme parks, though, and really in general -- there are some major differences between video games and traditional media IP that I think a lot of people just don't grasp. I say this as someone who has played video games his entire life from NES on up to PS5. A lot of games wouldn't translate well to a theme park land in general, and it's also difficult to capture what people actually enjoy about most games in a theme park environment. We're already seeing this problem with the Mario Kart ride.
For example, Grand Theft Auto or Call of Duty are probably the biggest video game IPs (at least in terms of sales), but neither of those would translate well into a theme park.
Nintendo was a very good get for Universal in that Mario and Zelda should work well as theme park lands (not to mention Pokemon, but I wouldn't call that a video game IP), but I'm not sure there's that much untapped potential for video games as a whole in the theme park realm.
I'm not expecting every video game to be utilized, but Nintendo themselves have a lot of games that could be translated into games.
What people love about Super Mario is the ability to connect coins, and interact with characters... the land itself offers those opportunities. I do think it's a miss that Mario Kart doesn't have a "fast" section, but it also needed to feature an interactive element like it currently has.
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