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ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
I think the grants you are referring to are for chronic absentee issues. This is done as an attempt to get the states to take a more proactive approach to kids who regularly miss school. I don't think pulling a kid for a week (or less) to go on a family vacation would factor into this. I think each state was free to define truancy in their own way so there is no federal mandate, but it's more than missing a few days or even a week. As I said many posts back, each state and even school district within the state will have their own different rules so everyone's experience is going to be different on whether it's acceptable to do or not. Even at the same school different teachers may have very different opinions on the issue.

Nope DW is a teacher and funds are allocated on a butts in seats per day basis. The joys of taking money from FedZilla.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I live in SC and to the surprise of my neighbor she had a trunacy office have a meeting with her at her house to review the state laws and school policies with her. She was then given a forms to sign saying she read and understood all the policies, information shown to her. Then they handed her a form saying the jail time for having your kids out of school unexcused.

SC law.
Elementary / Middle School Absences
The school year consists of 180 days. To receive credit, students must attend at least 170 days of each year, as well as meet the minimum requirements for each course. Accrued student absences may not exceed 10 days during the school year. The first 10 absences may be lawful, unlawful, or a combination. Any absence in excess of 10 may cause the student to lose credit for the year.

Go over 10 and you better be in a hospital. I can't find the penalties for parents but under some cases they can throw you into jail if your child is absent for any reason. I know there are bad parents out there with their kids just running loose but they are going after everyone. Something for you to look over, maybe do some research. http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...-sweep-say-there-were-reasons-why-their-kids#
The key here is unexcused absence vs excused. Just like when a kid is out sick if you take your kids out for a vacation you need to tell the school. My kids have a form that needs to be filled out whether it's a sick day or for some other reason like a vacation. No note equals an unexcused absence. Too many of thosse and you have issues with the school. If my kid is out sick even 1 day and doesn't turn in a note the next day they are back I get a call from an automated phone system reminding that the note is missing.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
I live in SC and to the surprise of my neighbor she had a trunacy office have a meeting with her at her house to review the state laws and school policies with her. She was then given a forms to sign saying she read and understood all the policies, information shown to her. Then they handed her a form saying the jail time for having your kids out of school unexcused.

SC law.
Elementary / Middle School Absences
The school year consists of 180 days. To receive credit, students must attend at least 170 days of each year, as well as meet the minimum requirements for each course. Accrued student absences may not exceed 10 days during the school year. The first 10 absences may be lawful, unlawful, or a combination. Any absence in excess of 10 may cause the student to lose credit for the year.

Go over 10 and you better be in a hospital. I can't find the penalties for parents but under some cases they can throw you into jail if your child is absent for any reason. I know there are bad parents out there with their kids just running loose but they are going after everyone. Something for you to look over, maybe do some research. http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...-sweep-say-there-were-reasons-why-their-kids#

As usual in these cases 'follow the money' somewhere in a funding regulation is some clause which witholds funding unless the pupil is in school at least 170 days per year, This has ZIP to do with education and everything to do with money, DW is a teacher so she deals with this kind of crap daily.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
So they have a policy that parents can't take kids out of school? It's not that way in PA. There are a minimum number of days you have to be in school, but even that can be circumvented based on individual situations.

Unless you have a letter from Mean, Nasty, Brutish and Short Esquires it's highly inadvisable to take your kids out of school for ANY reason up here ,

There was a huge kerfuffle up here with a kid in the hospital and the parents were being threatened with jail as the kid had exceeded the number of 'excused absence days' it took the TV station and the local papers mocking the school district to make them back off.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Particularly if its one of these fundie schools that teach you that evolution is devil's way to fool religious people into accepting satan.


Never understood the Fundie PoV on that one.

Let's say God created the world it's kind of putting him in a box if you dictate His implementation strategy and the Bible stories were written more to be understandable to an illiterate population. A 'day' on Earth is 24 hours and some odd number of milliseconds which add up to a leap year every 4 years. But wherever God is a day could be a billion years.
 

NearTheEars

Well-Known Member
So school attendance aside... both resorts need longer hours period... universal has closed too early forever so it's expected but mk should be open until 12 every day anyway..

What is the deal with Universal closing so early? Seems like it would be a fun place to be at night.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
There is no need to sucker Disney and Universal. The people are all for hire and many vendors already manufacture in China. There is no need for or benefit from your silly fantasy.

I have more experience along these lines than I can discuss on any public forum, Many many non-Chinese companies have lost everything to their so called Chinese 'partners' there is no 'rule of law' in China everything is for sale there. You should read the article it can happen to you too. http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/11/0415/Fellowes1.html
 

Rutt

Well-Known Member
No you can't, schools have gotten very draconian about attendance. I got really sick in high school and missed a week and a half and despite working things out with my principals and what not still got letters from the superintendent. I responded with a copy of my 4.0 transcript. I always say that perfect attendance is participation trophy of education.
We pull our children out for one week every year for family vacation. We've never had an issue at all with the schools. Not all of us have the option of summer vacation or Christmas break.
The key here is unexcused absence vs excused. Just like when a kid is out sick if you take your kids out for a vacation you need to tell the school. My kids have a form that needs to be filled out whether it's a sick day or for some other reason like a vacation. No note equals an unexcused absence. Too many of thosse and you have issues with the school. If my kid is out sick even 1 day and doesn't turn in a note the next day they are back I get a call from an automated phone system reminding that the note is missing.

We always inform the school two weeks before so that our children can get the work they need to get caught up. In most cases (at least here in Toronto), they don't really care anyway.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
I have more experience along these lines than I can discuss on any public forum, Many many non-Chinese companies have lost everything to their so called Chinese 'partners' there is no 'rule of law' in China everything is for sale there. You should read the article it can happen to you too. http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/11/0415/Fellowes1.html
You're not special because you've done work in China. The whole problem with your dream is that Disney has nothing to steal. It's a ridiculously complicated and expensive scheme that results in nothing except instability.
 

CDavid

Well-Known Member
I live in SC and to the surprise of my neighbor she had a trunacy office have a meeting with her at her house to review the state laws and school policies with her. She was then given a forms to sign saying she read and understood all the policies, information shown to her. Then they handed her a form saying the jail time for having your kids out of school unexcused.

SC law.
Elementary / Middle School Absences
The school year consists of 180 days. To receive credit, students must attend at least 170 days of each year, as well as meet the minimum requirements for each course. Accrued student absences may not exceed 10 days during the school year. The first 10 absences may be lawful, unlawful, or a combination. Any absence in excess of 10 may cause the student to lose credit for the year.

Go over 10 and you better be in a hospital. I can't find the penalties for parents but under some cases they can throw you into jail if your child is absent for any reason. I know there are bad parents out there with their kids just running loose but they are going after everyone. Something for you to look over, maybe do some research. http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/...-sweep-say-there-were-reasons-why-their-kids#

Ten days per year leaves time for a weeks family vacation during the school year, but that policy is way too restrictive. They actually refer to unexcused absences (which they may consider a vacation to be) as "unlawful"? The policy is overreaching to a ludicrous degree.

A 'day' on Earth is 24 hours and some odd number of milliseconds which add up to a leap year every 4 years. But wherever God is a day could be a billion years.

Not true. The week of creation is defined by the Bible as six 24 hour periods.
 

CDavid

Well-Known Member
I have more experience along these lines than I can discuss on any public forum, Many many non-Chinese companies have lost everything to their so called Chinese 'partners' there is no 'rule of law' in China everything is for sale there. You should read the article it can happen to you too. http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/11/0415/Fellowes1.html

What eventually happened to Fellows? The article is five years old; Ever get their tooling back?
 

disneyflush

Well-Known Member
I have more experience along these lines than I can discuss on any public forum, Many many non-Chinese companies have lost everything to their so called Chinese 'partners' there is no 'rule of law' in China everything is for sale there. You should read the article it can happen to you too. http://www.manufacturingnews.com/news/11/0415/Fellowes1.html

The company I work for recently acquired a Chinese company and the list of issues we are dealing with is long (as to be expected). However, the weirdest one that caused the most headaches so far is that the computers all had counterfeit copies of Windows XP as their operating systems. Hundreds and hundreds of computers. Their management did not want to let us make any changes and didn't think it was an issue. We wound up having to send several guys over who hid legit software on HD cards inside digital cameras just to be able to get it through security. Purchasing anything, especially capital purchases, is also a huge headache. There is 1 guy onsite who has a web of people he buys everything from. No quotes, no research on pricing, just him historically overpaying for everything (then receiving a nice kickback) by calling someone and having it delivered. We hear a lot of 'haha, that is not how things work over here' when we try to institute proper protocols and practices to get the business in line with how the rest of our company works. Nothing has been a huge disaster for us (we have 120 plants spread throughout the globe so local norms aren't new) but we are definitely feeling the effects of working through accepted business practices inside of China and trying to institute a bit of a culture change in the employees. This plant is only a small percentage of the size of SDL so I can only imagine what is happening with a project the size of SDL with Disney having zero leverage and no ability to impose any type of penalties/sanctions on the companies doing the actual construction. Its like owning a house building company and building the world's pickiest person their dream home with the caveat that if they are dissatisfied in any way then you will tear down and rebuild the house as many times as is necessary until they are completely satisfied.
 


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