Finiamh123
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We always think of the two original hotels we have seen sketches of. There may be other doodles or incomplete works Walt had on paper that we may not have seen yet. Probably enough to give this guy a direction anyway.
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Hotelier Ian Schrager working on Disney Hotels.
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CDavid
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They can always make one look like this...Call it Disney's Magic Motel "Don't expect too much!"
How did you get a picture of the All-Star Resorts from the future? Are you The Doctor?
cspencer96
Well-Known Member
Did it open for the expansion, or just around the same time the entirety of the resort was reshuffled and reconfigured? I have never seen anyone blame Bay Lake Tower for that ridiculous store location until now.
Little Green Men
Well-Known Member
It was there for my first stay in 2007, along with the temporary quick service location where, I believe, Outer Rim is. BLT opened in 2009.
ThemeParkTraveller
Well-Known Member
i think a deluxe Hollywood-themed hotel would be a wonderful addition. There are already similarly-themed hotels at other Disney resorts.
TDR- Ambassador Hotel
HKDL- Hollywood Hotel
Jensspark
New Member
This part of the article was pretty interesting to me:
"The Manhattan Edition follows the opening of Edition brand hotels in London, Istanbul and Miami’s South Beach, which are run in partnership with Marriott International."
Maybe part of the Marriott involvement with Flamingo Crossings?
"The Manhattan Edition follows the opening of Edition brand hotels in London, Istanbul and Miami’s South Beach, which are run in partnership with Marriott International."
Maybe part of the Marriott involvement with Flamingo Crossings?
matt9112
Well-Known Member
its cool you guys can stay in your fortresses....but were still going to stick gum under the railings and let children run wild all over your shoes....oh man those look pricey too...and oh i cant wait till we pack in that monorail....between me and edwardo we got like a party of 40....6
nothing wrong with fancy hotels but honestly not worth current rates....i mean even if your rich you are lighting money on fire. even moderate resorts are laughable. ironicly the value i think are the only ones with pricing that matches resorts.
So what does it matter what others spend their money on? If I can't question why people on social assistance have nice and shiny Beats by Dr Dre or iPhone 6Plus without being accused of being judgemental shouldn't that carp swim both directions?
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Yes that would be amazing or the hotel in 'The Shadow'.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
EXACTLY my point on the deluxe resorts which used to be amazing in quality yet are no longer and while the property is the same the details have suffered, The battered furniture, cheap bedding and towels and dirty paint and torn wallpaper.
matt9112
Well-Known Member
i don't care i was merely pointing out the fact that staying at a deluxe at rack rate now is lighting money on fire. that is all.
Well, technically, so is going to Disney.
DGracey
Well-Known Member
Time will tell what happens, but there's a huge difference between this guy working on a project for Disney, or working on a project at Disney.
The current crop at TDO seem to enjoy the simplicity of farming it out and just leasing the valuable land these days (another Four Seasons anyone?), which is sad. Disney's best stuff has always been internal. A new Disney resort on Seven Seas Lagoon could be fun. But a new resort leased out to a Marriott or other chain on Disney property? Not so much ...
The current crop at TDO seem to enjoy the simplicity of farming it out and just leasing the valuable land these days (another Four Seasons anyone?), which is sad. Disney's best stuff has always been internal. A new Disney resort on Seven Seas Lagoon could be fun. But a new resort leased out to a Marriott or other chain on Disney property? Not so much ...
WDW1974
Well-Known Member
So, folks are getting 'news' from a gossip column blurb in the NY Freaking Post?!!
Seriously, you'd be better getting your Disney news from virtually any online blogger/podcaster/Lifestyler.
What I got from this blurb was Schrager is hard up for cash and would like to work for Disney.
The idea that he is going to or that Disney is planning new hotels for both WDW and DLR is flat out untrue. As is the notion that someone of his skill set would be a good fit for Disney's hotel chain. As is the idea that Walt ever planned/sketched actual hotel concepts (doncha think you would have seen that artwork over the last 40-plus years since he died?)
In other words, you are all getting excited over nothing.
And while I'd love to join the thread further and explain yet again why Disney's resort rooms, standards and service are in no way near what you get at a typical airport Marriott, I've largely found that an effort in futility to folks addicted to the BRAND.
On to more important threads/topics.
Seriously, you'd be better getting your Disney news from virtually any online blogger/podcaster/Lifestyler.
What I got from this blurb was Schrager is hard up for cash and would like to work for Disney.
The idea that he is going to or that Disney is planning new hotels for both WDW and DLR is flat out untrue. As is the notion that someone of his skill set would be a good fit for Disney's hotel chain. As is the idea that Walt ever planned/sketched actual hotel concepts (doncha think you would have seen that artwork over the last 40-plus years since he died?)
In other words, you are all getting excited over nothing.
And while I'd love to join the thread further and explain yet again why Disney's resort rooms, standards and service are in no way near what you get at a typical airport Marriott, I've largely found that an effort in futility to folks addicted to the BRAND.
On to more important threads/topics.
jdmdisney99
Well-Known Member
Actually, it's similar.They can always make one look like this...Call it Disney's Magic Motel "Don't expect too much!"
Word has it they're not going with Ian Schrager, they've in fact gone with the Bates family of motels. However, the whole deal sounds a bit...shady.
lazyboy97o
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Walt Disney was quite dead by the time Walt Disney World Phase 1 was being designed. There are also no references to Walt being the type who would sketch out ideas.
Nmoody1
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i have to say, as a flight attendant for an international airline, i stay in hotels at least once a week. i also stay at Dis ey reguarly. when i want just a room for one night i will stay at an a star (its a bed - thats all i need). if i am on vacation i'll stay at a moderate resort - usuakly POFQ or CBR so i can upgrade to a king bed (im 6"3', i need to spread out). on occasions i have stayed at deluxe resorts and DVC resorts.
my general observation is Dianey hotel rooms are very generic - most are the same size, they all have the same tv, they all have the same towels, they all have the same sheets. compare this to a Mariott and a JW Mariott or a Sheraton and a Westin. Thats esentially what we are looking at here. a JW bed and a Westin bed have superior linens.
i stayed at AKL in March. same shower as an All Star... shouldnt there be a heavenly shower or a deeper tub?
On the subject of dining, Disney has dumbed this down so much that i wont talk to much (it deserves a whole other thread), but I'd expect the deluxe resorts to have a coffee shop seperate to QSR locations - like most hotels have a starbucks concession these days.
plateware - i am all for themed plateware. anyone that says it doesnt matter, it does. Do a Disney cruise - each restaurant has its own design plates - when you are paying high end prices, plateware is important. it adds to the experience. dining should be an experience ... not sonething you rush whilst your three year old plays on an ipad and you constantly check your phone just to see if a fastpass comes up for the mine train tomorrow.
basics like water in your room - missing from Disneys budget hotels... yet for the same price you can stay in a hugher star property in Lake Buena Vista and have water every day.
Disney has not only dumbed down its hotels but it does not provide a great service when compared to competitors in the real world.
my general observation is Dianey hotel rooms are very generic - most are the same size, they all have the same tv, they all have the same towels, they all have the same sheets. compare this to a Mariott and a JW Mariott or a Sheraton and a Westin. Thats esentially what we are looking at here. a JW bed and a Westin bed have superior linens.
i stayed at AKL in March. same shower as an All Star... shouldnt there be a heavenly shower or a deeper tub?
On the subject of dining, Disney has dumbed this down so much that i wont talk to much (it deserves a whole other thread), but I'd expect the deluxe resorts to have a coffee shop seperate to QSR locations - like most hotels have a starbucks concession these days.
plateware - i am all for themed plateware. anyone that says it doesnt matter, it does. Do a Disney cruise - each restaurant has its own design plates - when you are paying high end prices, plateware is important. it adds to the experience. dining should be an experience ... not sonething you rush whilst your three year old plays on an ipad and you constantly check your phone just to see if a fastpass comes up for the mine train tomorrow.
basics like water in your room - missing from Disneys budget hotels... yet for the same price you can stay in a hugher star property in Lake Buena Vista and have water every day.
Disney has not only dumbed down its hotels but it does not provide a great service when compared to competitors in the real world.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
I'm sorry but this is, frankly, ridiculous. Most hotels, even the nice ones, have maybe one restaurant and a bar. That's it. Compare that to three fine dining locations at the Grand, a fine dining location on the roof at the Contemporary, an African buffet and African fine dining at DAK Lodge, and on and on. PLUS a casual dining location and a quick service location at each of those resorts. If I'm staying at a place with Jiko AND Boma AND Sanaa, AND The Mara, I'm supposed to be upset about a dumbed down dining experience because there's no stand alone Starbucks? Tell me, at what Marriott can I get African stew at a counter service location? Oh, none of them? Got it. Which one serves a family style "canyon skillet" with in-character wait staff who bust your chops during the meal? Oh that's only at Wilderness Lodge? Got it. What a ridiculous suggestion to complain about the dumbing down of dining at Disney resorts while in the same breath wishing for greater access to Starbucks. Starbucks IS the dumbing down of our dining experiences, not just at Disney but all over the world.
Some swanky hotel in New York is not a competitor to Disney.