Hollywood Strikes Are Over! - SAG-AFTRA agrees to a deal

[BuddyThomas]

Bingo.

All of the late night talk shows, except Gutfeld, have been off the air since the first of May. Has anyone noticed, much less cared? I haven't. And I use to watch Johnny Carson religiously. I even wrote him a letter once after that hamster thing that Joan Embry brought up from San Diego pooped on his head on national television.

But now? I don't watch the late night shows. Don't care about them.

It's not 1985, or even 2005. The amount of 4K HD entertainment options the average working-class American with a streaming service or two now has at their disposal is phenomenally huge. I think that's where both the Writers and the Actor's guilds have overplayed their hand. The amount of content, much of it from entirely amateur YouTube videos that get Millions of views per week, is a huge source of content out there in the free market.

And no union dues needed for those content creators.

Of course you are suddenly on the side of “Burbank” when actors and writers are trying to get a fair deal. Quelle surprise.

 

[DCBaker]

"Amid growing speculation of internal divisions within the C-suites and a lack of any apparent path forward to end the writers and actors strikes, the chiefs of Hollywood’s biggest studios are set to gather today.

Disney’s Dana Walden and Alan Bergman, Amazon Studios’ Mike Hopkins and Jennifer Salke, Netflix’s Ted Sarandos, Universal’s Donna Langley, and Warner Bros Discovery’s David Zaslav are among those scheduled to attend the virtual sit-down later Wednesday, we hear.

Mouse House CEO Bob Iger will not be participating in this meeting, reverting to his earlier stance of having Walden and Bergman be primarily hands-on over the labor actions. Part of that for Iger, we understand, was an overall CEO approach to keep some distance to be ready for the appropriate time to get more directly engaged.

It is unclear whether AMPTP President Carol Lombardini will be present at this afternoon’s meeting."

More details on the latest updates in the article below.

Studio CEOs Set To Meet Today Amid Internal Tensions; No End In Sight To Strikes

Amid growing speculation of internal divisions, the chiefs of Hollywood's biggest studios are set to gather today.

deadline.com

 

[TsWade2]

"Amid growing speculation of internal divisions within the C-suites and a lack of any apparent path forward to end the writers and actors strikes, the chiefs of Hollywood’s biggest studios are set to gather today.

Disney’s Dana Walden and Alan Bergman, Amazon Studios’ Mike Hopkins and Jennifer Salke, Netflix’s Ted Sarandos, Universal’s Donna Langley, and Warner Bros Discovery’s David Zaslav are among those scheduled to attend the virtual sit-down later Wednesday, we hear.

Mouse House CEO Bob Iger will not be participating in this meeting, reverting to his earlier stance of having Walden and Bergman be primarily hands-on over the labor actions. Part of that for Iger, we understand, was an overall CEO approach to keep some distance to be ready for the appropriate time to get more directly engaged.

It is unclear whether AMPTP President Carol Lombardini will be present at this afternoon’s meeting."

More details on the latest updates in the article below.

Studio CEOs Set To Meet Today Amid Internal Tensions; No End In Sight To Strikes

Amid growing speculation of internal divisions, the chiefs of Hollywood's biggest studios are set to gather today.

deadline.com

I’m not going to expect it to end the strike, but we’ll see.

 

[TP2000]

Of course you are suddenly on the side of “Burbank” when actors and writers are trying to get a fair deal. Quelle surprise.

I'm not on either side to be honest, as I don't really care that much about it. Why, you ask???

I don't care about it much because there's a GAZILLION HOURS of free new content every day, much of it in 4K HD and done extremely well, available on YouTube. Plus another few gazillion hours of old yet enjoyable content on Netflix or Amazon Prime, also all in 4K and done extremely well.

The point is that it's not the 1980's any more, when that last big Writer's strike really sent TV viewing for a loop. Johnny Carson is dead, no one really cares that The Tonight Show is off the air, and we aren't dependent on two-part episodes of Dallas or a "very special episode" of Family Ties to keep us entertained.

There's now so much free content out there, in a million sub-niche markets, that a WGA and Actor's strike is of little immediate concern to most Americans. And I'm one of them. That's where I think the Writers and Actors have overplayed their hand.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I don't care about it much because there's a GAZILLION HOURS of free new content every day

Dont forget totally free steaming channels like, tubi, stirr, pluto, filmrise and others.

 

[TP2000]

Dont forget totally free steaming channels like, tubi, stirr, pluto, filmrise and others.

I haven't even heard of those. I'm an old fuddy-duddy who only does studio streaming via Netflix (but only when a new season of The Crown comes out) and Amazon Prime (because I'm buying a lot of crap I don't need from Amazon anyway, and they give it to me as part of Prime delivery).

Mostly now it's just YouTube for me on a weeknight in front of the TV.

There's just so many options for people to put on their giant 4K TV screens now. It's endless. Overwhelming even. But very entertaining. The content and high standards offered by amateur YouTube channels alone is staggering.

I understand the concern over streaming residuals and the fear that AI will put many actors and writers out of a job, but at the same time it seems that the Writers and Actors have overplayed their hand at how much they are needed with technology that already exists and that has already replaced them for many consumers.

Many of them are now Non-Essential workers. America is still swamped with entertainment options without them.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I haven't even heard of those. I'm an old fuddy-duddy who only does studio streaming via Netflix (but only when a new season of The Crown comes out) and Amazon Prime (because I'm buying a lot of crap I don't need from Amazon anyway, and they give it to me as part of Prime delivery).

Mostly now it's just YouTube for me on a weeknight in front of the TV.

There's just so many options for people to put on their giant 4K TV screens now. It's endless. Overwhelming even. But very entertaining. The content and high standards offered by amateur YouTube channels alone is staggering.

I understand the concern over streaming residuals and the fear that AI will put many actors and writers out of a job, but at the same time it seems that the Writers and Actors have overplayed their hand at how much they are needed with technology that already exists and that has already replaced them for many consumers.

Many of them are now Non-Essential workers. America is still swamped with entertainment options without them.

I am a fellow old fuddy-duddy. I started fooling with streaming devices, first Chromcast, then Firestick, then I settled on Roku. I now have the cheap Roku devices on all of my TVs and can watch almost anything I like on any of them.

There are TONS of free streaming channels out there, but I also pay for TOO MANY streaming channels (including D+ AND CABLE) and ironically could not watch the Disney live action Cinderella from 2015 without PAYING!!! Needless to say I wont be seeing that.

 

[TsWade2]

I don't want to get my hopes up, because I think this strike is going to last the whole year or maybe it's just my doom and gloom.

 

[BuddyThomas]

I don't want to get my hopes up, because I think this strike is going to last the whole year or maybe it's just my doom and gloom.

Well whatever you do, don’t listen to that martini shaking dog who posted above, or he will have you thinking that you’ll have nothing to watch but YouTube for the rest of your life, which is not true at all.

 

[TsWade2]

Well whatever you do, don’t listen to that martini shaking dog who posted above, or he will have you thinking that you’ll have nothing to watch but YouTube for the rest of your life, which is not true at all.

Yeah, you're right. I shouldn't have. But Disney Irish told me not to expect anything, so I'm trying not expect anything unless it was announced that the strike is over.

 

[BuddyThomas]

Yeah, you're right. I shouldn't have. But Disney Irish told me not to expect anything, so I'm trying not expect anything unless it was announced that the strike is over.

They’re making progress. It will settle eventually. These things always do. Just a matter of time.

 

[TP2000]

Well whatever you do, don’t listen to that martini shaking dog who posted above, or he will have you thinking that you’ll have nothing to watch but YouTube for the rest of your life, which is not true at all.

You're right in that this strike won't last forever. They'll figure it out, both sides will give up some ground, and it will eventually be resolved.

But it's not 1985. These Hollywood folks are the epitome of what we all now know as Non-Essential Employees. They can stop working en masse, and the world keeps on going without them. No problem. Unlike truckers or grocery clerks or air traffic controllers or policemen, the world doesn't need them to survive day to day.

They’re making progress. It will settle eventually. These things always do. Just a matter of time.

Agreed, they'll figure it out. Both sides need to lower their expectations though. And I do think this is going to take at least another couple of months. The unions seem to have overplayed their hand with how much they are needed in the 2020's, and the studio execs seem to be really scared about what the future holds based on new technology and marketplace trends.

Neither of those angles seems to line up with current reality.

Example #2,408: Tonight the magical YouTube algorithm just revealed to me that there's a kid in his mom's basement who for the past few months has been cleaning up and re-releasing old episodes of The Love Boat. They're in pristine condition, they look unreal on my giant 4K screen compared to how they looked on my 28 inch Zenith during the Carter Administration, and they're still hilariously fun to watch.

Who needs modern Hollywood??? Some kid on YouTube just edited into HD the Greatest Works of Aaron Spelling.

 

[LSLS]

"Amid growing speculation of internal divisions within the C-suites and a lack of any apparent path forward to end the writers and actors strikes, the chiefs of Hollywood’s biggest studios are set to gather today.

Disney’s Dana Walden and Alan Bergman, Amazon Studios’ Mike Hopkins and Jennifer Salke, Netflix’s Ted Sarandos, Universal’s Donna Langley, and Warner Bros Discovery’s David Zaslav are among those scheduled to attend the virtual sit-down later Wednesday, we hear.

Mouse House CEO Bob Iger will not be participating in this meeting, reverting to his earlier stance of having Walden and Bergman be primarily hands-on over the labor actions. Part of that for Iger, we understand, was an overall CEO approach to keep some distance to be ready for the appropriate time to get more directly engaged.

It is unclear whether AMPTP President Carol Lombardini will be present at this afternoon’s meeting."

More details on the latest updates in the article below.

Studio CEOs Set To Meet Today Amid Internal Tensions; No End In Sight To Strikes

Amid growing speculation of internal divisions, the chiefs of Hollywood's biggest studios are set to gather today.

deadline.com

Not to turn this to an Iger thread, but this right here makes his idiotic comments even more baffling. Guy is not directly involved in any of this, yet stuck his nose into it and gave the Guilds a united enemy.

 

[BuddyThomas]

You're right in that this strike won't last forever. They'll figure it out, both sides will give up some ground, and it will eventually be resolved.

But it's not 1985. These Hollywood folks are the epitome of what we all now know as Non-Essential Employees. They can stop working en masse, and the world keeps on going without them. No problem. Unlike truckers or grocery clerks or air traffic controllers or policemen, the world doesn't need them to survive day to day.



Agreed, they'll figure it out. Both sides need to lower their expectations though. And I do think this is going to take at least another couple of months. The unions seem to have overplayed their hand with how much they are needed in the 2020's, and the studio execs seem to be really scared about what the future holds based on new technology and marketplace trends.

Neither of those angles seems to line up with current reality.

Example #2,408: Tonight the magical YouTube algorithm just revealed to me that there's a kid in his mom's basement who for the past few months has been cleaning up and re-releasing old episodes of The Love Boat. They're in pristine condition, they look unreal on my giant 4K screen compared to how they looked on my 28 inch Zenith during the Carter Administration, and they're still hilariously fun to watch.

Who needs modern Hollywood??? Some kid on YouTube just edited into HD the Greatest Works of Aaron Spelling.

This “kid” is likely breaking copyright law unless he somehow has the rights to do this, and whatever the case, if you think cleaned up Love Boat episodes are going to sink the writers and actors and prove a win for “Burbank”, you’ve got another thing coming.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I don't want to get my hopes up, because I think this strike is going to last the whole year or maybe it's just my doom and gloom.

I suggest use this time as an opportunity to watch the thousands upon thousands of EXCELLENT movies made over the decades; you can view most for free.

 

[celluloid]

I suggest use this time as an opportunity to watch the thousands upon thousands of EXCELLENT movies made over the decades; you can view most for free.

Agreed! It is always my hope people explore more pop culture than just the last five to ten years.

Here are just some...of my favorites.

 

[AdventureHasAName]

You're right in that this strike won't last forever. They'll figure it out, both sides will give up some ground, and it will eventually be resolved.

But it's not 1985. These Hollywood folks are the epitome of what we all now know as Non-Essential Employees. They can stop working en masse, and the world keeps on going without them. No problem. Unlike truckers or grocery clerks or air traffic controllers or policemen, the world doesn't need them to survive day to day.



Agreed, they'll figure it out. Both sides need to lower their expectations though. And I do think this is going to take at least another couple of months. The unions seem to have overplayed their hand with how much they are needed in the 2020's, and the studio execs seem to be really scared about what the future holds based on new technology and marketplace trends.

Neither of those angles seems to line up with current reality.

Example #2,408: Tonight the magical YouTube algorithm just revealed to me that there's a kid in his mom's basement who for the past few months has been cleaning up and re-releasing old episodes of The Love Boat. They're in pristine condition, they look unreal on my giant 4K screen compared to how they looked on my 28 inch Zenith during the Carter Administration, and they're still hilariously fun to watch.

Who needs modern Hollywood??? Some kid on YouTube just edited into HD the Greatest Works of Aaron Spelling.

These are great! I find it hard to believe that the cruiseline industry hasn't sponsored a revamp of the Love Boat to serve as advertising. These shows couldn't have been expensive to make.

 

[Heppenheimer]

The point is that it's not the 1980's any more, when that last big Writer's strike really sent TV viewing for a loop. Johnny Carson is dead, no one really cares that The Tonight Show is off the air, and we aren't dependent on two-part episodes of Dallas or a "very special episode" of Family Ties to keep us entertained.

Ah, the episode where Tom Hanks cleans out all of the Keaton's alcohol, drinks vanilla extract and punches Alex.

Being a young kid who didn't understand the implication, I was terrified when I later saw my mom using the Devil's extract in a cake recipe.

 

[celluloid]

It could be a long while yet to make a real difference, but the CEOS are the ones that are sweating. The strength of a strike comes from unitedness. And they have the studios bickering over what is exactly fair. Imagine one of the biggest putting their feet down and against proposals?
One CEO does not even show up to them. I guess an attempt at not being the bad guy by omission.
https://deadline.com/2023/08/hollywood-ceo-meeting-writers-strike-1235529614/

Hollywood Execs Can't Stop Picking Fights With Each Other

Disney, Netflix, Warner Bros., and Amazon are rumored to be sitting down together tonight to learn how to play nice with others.

gizmodo.com

 

[WaltsTreasureChest]

I suggest use this time as an opportunity to watch the thousands upon thousands of EXCELLENT movies made over the decades; you can view most for free.

And I suggest to take a visit to the great movie ride to experience those fantastic movies!