HKDL gets new castle, frozen land and marvel land.

marni1971

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The COMD is something else: it's very much of our current era; apparently it's "a celebration of diversity, inclusion, and dreams." (0:50) 🙄



What could have been:

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Got to say we approached it with trepidation since in photos it looks too tall and thin. But in person it’s proportions are spot on and a very close second favourite behind Paris.
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I will say though we didn’t get into the “how many princesses can you see” debate and the lower rear side flanks would benefit from some windows or such.
 
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marni1971

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Interesting, I guess my question becomes then do you not think it matches wider HKDL, due to the budget the park has always been small and “plasticy”, not to the extent of say Mickey avenue but you can really feel the difference in most of the legacy lands compared to the original 4 magic kingdoms

It would be too much to rebuild the park from scratch so could you almost argue that it kinda really fits the park even if it’s a bit messy in isolation
Interesting post. See my comment above about the castle but I see what you mean about comparing it to the legacy park.

Main Street is both quaint and cheap. Small boxes with facades that lack the detail of say Paris (or even Orlando) yet it seems to work and evoke a certain charm. I dare say the castle helps with this. Side note - not just the castle but the moat, stage, plaza and infrastructure are all great. I can only imagine how it was beforehand.

Elsewhere the legacy budget can be seen, especially fantasyland. Large open areas, cheaper facades, lack of dark rides. Tomorrowland would feel the same minus the trees. Comet Cafe with its canopies is both cheap but fitting.

Then you have mystic point. It’s the ratatouille area of HK. Lavish. Well designed. Grizzly Peak at first seems cheap with some of the buildings but they do work. And the more you look the more you realise it’s a whole mini land built over a rollercoaster. I dare say frozen land will have the same feel as mystic point. Maybe more so.

The park is a curious mix of 2005 and present day budgets and designs. I dare say opening day it was quite wanting and a bit more cosmetic work would do wonders for Fantasyland. But I think the new castle works very well in elevating the whole park to a higher level. It adds a bit more class that carries around the whole park.

On the whole you can’t compare the park to the others. One hand it’s certainly obviously the more budget challenged since opening. But on the other has plenty of amazing spaces and designs and as a whole is in a league of its own and throughly charming. Like I’ve said elsewhere we’d be back next week if we could.
 

Hkayer

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There should also be a "Reimagining Project" in the initial plan (if not being cut) opening between Frozen and Marvel E-ticket, which I think is a retheme of Space Mountain to maybe GOTG.
 

Supersnow84

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There should also be a "Reimagining Project" in the initial plan (if not being cut) opening between Frozen and Marvel E-ticket, which I think is a retheme of Space Mountain to maybe GOTG.
Wasn’t it strongly implied that ended up being WODS being changed to WOSS
 

Hkayer

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Do you mean did they originally plan to not reimagine the two Tomorrowland attractions because if so no they always intended to reimagine them
I mean the change from WODS to WOSS is an early change for the plan. If the retheme budget (which I suspect is for Space Mountain) all went into the coaster, then this means they decided not to change Tomorrowland all into Stark Expo since 2019.
 

Supersnow84

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I mean the change from WODS to WOSS is an early change for the plan. If the retheme budget (which I suspect is for Space Mountain) all went into the coaster, then this means they decided not to change Tomorrowland all into Stark Expo since 2019.
They still have 5 billion HKD unused but that was earmarked for the avengers E ticket as of the last time we got actual official info on the subject

We still don’t know what they are going to do with that 5 billion @marni1971 implied in their other post that the cast members knew of an expansion coming but I don’t think they can divulge any details

It could be a retheme, it could be the avengers ride, it could be anything at this point
 

22031029

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They still have 5 billion HKD unused but that was earmarked for the avengers E ticket as of the last time we got actual official info on the subject

We still don’t know what they are going to do with that 5 billion @marni1971 implied in their other post that the cast members knew of an expansion coming but I don’t think they can divulge any details

It could be a retheme, it could be the avengers ride, it could be anything at this point
what do you guys think the hinted-at expansion could be? my bets are personally on the plot between grizzly and the pavilion being converted into a mini-land but i dunno
 

Supersnow84

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what do you guys think the hinted-at expansion could be? my bets are personally on the plot between grizzly and the pavilion being converted into a mini-land but i dunno
I’m still expecting them to do something with the autopia plot

They ripped down one of their few rides to make the space and stark expo is woefully unfinished without it, unless they decided to redesign the entire Tomorrowland into stark expo

If not autopia then my next bet is the Toy Story plot, the imagineers must know with arendelle open the parks main deficit is in massive park wide headliners, with only 5 billion to work with they can’t afford to commit much to making an entire nother land because then they are going to run out of money for the ride itself, it’s why I think sticking to the original plan is the most likely, because the rest of stark expo is already done, they just need to plop a headliner in the space and call it a day, rather than build both the headliner and the land to support it
 

22031029

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I’m still expecting them to do something with the autopia plot

They ripped down one of their few rides to make the space and stark expo is woefully unfinished without it, unless they decided to redesign the entire Tomorrowland into stark expo

If not autopia then my next bet is the Toy Story plot, the imagineers must know with arendelle open the parks main deficit is in massive park wide headliners, with only 5 billion to work with they can’t afford to commit much to making an entire nother land because then they are going to run out of money for the ride itself, it’s why I think sticking to the original plan is the most likely, because the rest of stark expo is already done, they just need to plop a headliner in the space and call it a day, rather than build both the headliner and the land to support it
true... hopefully the rumored avengers multiverse attraction is gonna be a headliner
 

Supersnow84

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true... hopefully the rumored avengers multiverse attraction is gonna be a headliner
If it gets off the ground it will 100% be a headliner, it’s more if it will actually get off the ground, the franchise has been floundering recently and they can’t seem to nail a viable design for it
 

22031029

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from what i could deduce from the concepts its most likely gonna take some level of inspiration from universal's spider man motion simulator/dark ride, but i hope it's something more than that cause of the next door iron man ride also being a simulator
(on the left is the official concept art from D23, and on the right is a 3d model of the spider man ride vehicle)
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marni1971

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from what i could deduce from the concepts its most likely gonna take some level of inspiration from universal's spider man motion simulator/dark ride, but i hope it's something more than that cause of the next door iron man ride also being a simulator
(on the left is the official concept art from D23, and on the right is a 3d model of the spider man ride vehicle)
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Moving through a physical space is far different to a simulator cabin. Done right both could co-exist (Rise and Bird survive side by side)
 

Markiewong

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oh also according to this instagram reel () magicbands might be coming to HK?

Those machines are also installed in Paris, it wouldn't surprise if both parks will get magicbands in the future, but remember that that does not equal MyMagic+ or Genie+. In the Disneyland Resort they are also only used for park and attraction entry, not for the hotel doors. Disney Cruise only uses them for boarding and stateroom entry.

Bringing Magicbands (and in the future phone/smartwatch support) is pretty much a nobrainer for Disney. It speeds up the entry process, saves money for printing tickets and Magicbands are money printing machines.

Hopefully the dark ride is gonna be similar to rise of the resistance...but im probably setting my expectations too high
I wouldn't look at Rise since that is mostly physical with some screens mixed in. This will most likely be Disney's version of Universal's Spiderman ride. I am guessing that DisneySea is going to use the same ride system for Peter Pan since they look similar and will use 3D glasses as well.
 

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