HKDL gets new castle, frozen land and marvel land.

[Supersnow84]

from what i heard the government wants disney to expand the legacy park further before constructing a second gate

They do

 

[22031029]

They do

so hopefully they're willing to invest more, although on other forums the general public consensus is that they dont want the government to continually pump out money for a couple of lackluster attractions.

 

[Supersnow84]

so hopefully they're willing to invest more, although on other forums the general public consensus is that they dont want the government to continually pump out money for a couple of lackluster attractions.

The park is experiencing soaring public opinion and ocean parks opinion is collapsing, I expect if they do something good with the 5 billion on top of arendelle and it improves attendance I believe LegCo will give them more

 

[22031029]

The park is experiencing soaring public opinion and ocean parks opinion is collapsing, I expect if they do something good with the 5 billion on top of arendelle and it improves attendance I believe LegCo will give them more

fingers crossed thats the case, but ive seen a lot of mixed reviews for the two attractions in WOF, especially WOSS.

 

[Supersnow84]

fingers crossed thats the case, but ive seen a lot of mixed reviews for the two attractions in WOF, especially WOSS.

Any overall review I’ve seen of the land Is overwhelmingly positive if you consider the land as a complete package

WOSS may be a bit small but the land as a whole seems to be a smash hit

 

[22031029]

Any overall review I’ve seen of the land Is overwhelmingly positive if you consider the land as a complete package

WOSS may be a bit small but the land as a whole seems to be a smash hit

yeah the landscaping is incredible, and FEA is bound to be popular. i visited last week and enjoyed every minute of it. the unfavourable reviews are probably just a bunch of angry redditors, hopefully that wouldnt impact public perception of it.

 

[Supersnow84]

yeah the landscaping is incredible, and FEA is bound to be popular. i visited last week and enjoyed every minute of it. the unfavourable reviews are probably just a bunch of angry redditors, hopefully that wouldnt impact public perception of it.

Oh you’ve experienced it, how would you say it changes your overall view of the park as a complete package

 

[22031029]

Oh you’ve experienced it, how would you say it changes your overall view of the park as a complete package

defo the most immersive land, FEA dosnet feel like a reskin at all. possible contender for my personal top 5 rides @ HKDL

 

[Supersnow84]

defo the most immersive land, FEA dosnet feel like a reskin at all. possible contender for my personal top 5 rides @ HKDL

How would say it changes the park as a complete package

 

[22031029]

How would say it changes the park as a complete package

i think it definitely makes it like at least a 2 day park for parkgoers who truly want to experience everything, elevating it from it's status as a 1 day park. in terms of entertainment, FEA is pretty much the headliner attraction for Fantasyland (if you count WOF as an extension of fantasyland), so i think it does change the prospects of the park for the better.

 

[Hkayer]

I know the plot above space can’t be used, that’s critical cast only areas that can’t be removed since they can’t be moved anywhere else

I have seen a map that the plot was available for expansion before but maybe the plan has changed since.

 

[22031029]

do you think the "downtown disney"-esque area on the esplanade will be built before the avengers e ticket?

 

[Supersnow84]

do you think the "downtown disney"-esque area on the esplanade will be built before the avengers e ticket?

Doubtful; the current expansion will be finished first, the park is too far out and the transport is too good to justify it right now

 

[Supersnow84]

I have seen a map that the plot was available for expansion before but maybe the plan has changed since.

I think they changed that when they removed the area around arendelle and reduced the buildings behind the north side of main street

 

[22031029]

Doubtful; the current expansion will be finished first, the park is too far out and the transport is too good to justify it right now

but from some articles that i dug up theyre not expecting the expansion at DCA to be finished until at least 2027. and its evident that they want the US park to get the ride first. if thats the case then expansion at HKDL will remain stagnant for at least the next 6-7 years

 

[Supersnow84]

but from some articles that i dug up theyre not expecting the expansion at DCA to be finished until at least 2027. and its evident that they want the US park to get the ride first. if thats the case then expansion at HKDL will remain stagnant for at least the next 6-7 years

Of course though it’s still up in the air if they actually get the same ride

Regardless there are currently zero plans for the downtown Disney esplanade

 

[22031029]

Of course though it’s still up in the air if they actually get the same ride

Regardless there are currently zero plans for the downtown Disney esplanade

i think it's likely, but considering the concept art i mentioned was created in the chapek era i dont know if there have been any changes to the plans. the most recent bit of concept art only showcased DCA

 

[Supersnow84]

i think it's likely, but considering the concept art i mentioned was created in the chapek era i dont know if there have been any changes to the plans. the most recent bit of concept art only showcased DCA

I think it’s more likely than not but the biggest point against it is that Hong Kong just refuses to mention it, we still have no idea of a time beyond arendelle when they are going to make a move again

 

[22031029]

I think it’s more likely than not but the biggest point against it is that Hong Kong just refuses to mention it, we still have no idea of a time beyond arendelle when they are going to make a move again

tbh my bets on more things being teased at the 2024 D23 expo. thats when they tend to make major announcements

 

[Hkayer]

Ocean park used to be the local golden child but they burned a lot of goodwill during Covid and peopled moved towards Disney; Disney is strongly the favourite right now

Their goodwill started to be destroyed in 2019 for firing the Halloween show producers/performers due to political reasons. They therefore started to lose local attendance and it got worse after many attractions closed down, including a drop tower, 2 coasters out of 4, a splash-mountain type ride, a pirate ship etc. Local goes to OP other than Disney mostly bc of their thrill rides or animals. This surely hurt OP very much for losing its competitiveness. So I think thrill rides will help Disney gain some attendance from here.

Also, OP focused heavily on mainland tourists. This becomes a very difficult situation for them when mainlanders don't come due to COVID and their negative impression of HK. This is reflected by the difference in attendance between Disney and OP in 2022 (3.4 million vs 1.4 million), even HK residents get a free ticket on their birthdays.

Not to miss that Chimelong Ocean Kingdom is not far away. They got more thrilling rides and impressive exhibits/aquariums and definitely drove OP attendance away. The second park is now open and there is continuous development for the resort. Mainlanders rather go to Chimelong instead of OP.

OP therefore lost both locals and mainlanders. I think it is unlikely that the government would willing to invest in the park in the future as to avoid direct competition with Chimelong. OP may slowly become a local zoo instead of a theme park in the future.