HKDL gets new castle, frozen land and marvel land.

Supersnow84

Supersnow84

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marni1971 said:
Quinjet was designed and ready to go. I’m still trying to find out what happened.
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Was it

The only thing I had heard was that they got far enough to figure out a rough hourly throughput, decided that it was completely unacceptable for a ride that would cost 2-400 million per park and become all three parks headliners (debatable in DCA’s case) and extrapolating from that since DCA very soon after announced king thanos decided that altering the ride system to accomodate a larger number of guests was either impossible or infeasible

Regardless as far as I understand the ride design process when designing a new type of attraction seating arrangement and “vehicle” design is a very early part of the design so if they shelved it at the “bad throughput” stage I’m assuming it didn’t cost them much in R&D
 
Supersnow84

Supersnow84

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marni1971 said:
Yes. The base ride system was designed for Epcot in 2016.
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What ride in Epcot was supposed to run off the quinjet technology, and if quinjet was so far along why is there basically no news of the attraction existing at all

Everything we have ever seen on quinjet has been nebulous guesses from people, if the ride tech was done in 2016 something would have been released with it by now, if it is/was as revolutionary as Disney was selling it when all these pre Covid expansions were being sold at D23
 
Supersnow84

Supersnow84

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marni1971 said:
Because it wasn’t announced.

Not everything runs via d23.
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So the ride design was completed and yet never announced, 2/3 parks were going to make a ride based on that ride design their new headliner, none of which are the park it was originally designed for and 7 years later we still have no park with a functioning example of this tech and absolutely no concrete ideas of even remotely what type of attraction it would be beyond a nebulous assumption of a next gen simulator

And in the intervening time one of the two parks has straight up said they are going to substitute the ride for a different one and the other one has gone radio silent

That sounds very farfetched, to be so tight lipped on a new ride design like this we can’t even find copies of patents, trackless fake ride tech was an open secret before it was actually introduced to the parks as was FOP’s ride tech

It all just seems very convoluted if they have the ride tech available and the money to build it
 
marni1971

marni1971

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Supersnow84 said:
So the ride design was completed and yet never announced, 2/3 parks were going to make a ride based on that ride design their new headliner, none of which are the park it was originally designed for and 7 years later we still have no park with a functioning example of this tech and absolutely no concrete ideas of even remotely what type of attraction it would be beyond a nebulous assumption of a next gen simulator

And in the intervening time one of the two parks has straight up said they are going to substitute the ride for a different one and the other one has gone radio silent

That sounds very farfetched, to be so tight lipped on a new ride design like this we can’t even find copies of patents, trackless fake ride tech was an open secret before it was actually introduced to the parks as was FOP’s ride tech

It all just seems very convoluted if they have the ride tech available and the money to build it
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It was a stand up flight of passage. No secret. It’s been talked about elsewhere.
 
Supersnow84

Supersnow84

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marni1971 said:
It was a stand up flight of passage. No secret. It’s been talked about elsewhere.
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Wasn’t that concept art proven to be only a potential design when it was shown in the marvel hotel in Paris, not concrete

Also (and I know you said you didn’t know either) but it still doesn’t really explain why the attraction (or another variant of it) still hasn’t materialised
 
marni1971

marni1971

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Supersnow84 said:
Wasn’t that concept art proven to be only a potential design when it was shown in the marvel hotel in Paris, not concrete
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Pass. I just know the Epcot plans I saw were legit and the proposals to develop it for the other parks. Like I said I’m still trying to find out what happened after that.
 
momo123

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Oh I’m shocked I had no idea this new system was considered for another ride too in the past. It’s crazy to think this was considered for 4 different parks the ride system yet has never been implemented in any of the 4 parks. For me it seems like either a serious technical issue or a capacity issue. I think the issue though on the HK side is these issues don’t hurt Paris and dca because they both don’t have another marvel simulator next door unlike HK which has iron man.
 
IMDREW

IMDREW

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In one of the DCA concept arts you can see the ride “vehicle” jetpack design at the rides entrance.

If it’s flight of passage you’d think that capacity would be something theyre ok with?
 
momo123

momo123

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im surprised what ever they had in mind couldn't have been re worked into just flights of passage or something instead of completely cancelling the whole project with a marvel skin
 
momo123

momo123

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again im not sure what the budget for the other parks was but hk had $670m USD for the project that was enough for a marvel skin of fop and some on top for another small ride.
 
Supersnow84

Supersnow84

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momo123 said:
again im not sure what the budget for the other parks was but hk had $670m USD for the project that was enough for a marvel skin of fop and some on top for another small ride.
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I don’t think either location could fit FOP’s ride building

FOP is huge and apparently quite annoying to maintain, they may have decided they don’t want to deal with more FOP’s
 
momo123

momo123

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Supersnow84 said:
I don’t think either location could fit FOP’s ride building

FOP is huge and apparently quite annoying to maintain, they may have decided they don’t want to deal with more FOP’s
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I mean honestly if tot doesn’t happen (which is what I’m guessing will happen) I don’t see any other e ticket besides something like fop. Unless we get something totally new (unlikely) what could it be? Imagine it isn’t a e ticket and is another d ticket would be an absolute disaster. The more I think about it hks limited park space for expansion means most modern e ticket rides the park just doesn’t have the space for them.
 
Supersnow84

Supersnow84

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momo123 said:
I mean honestly if tot doesn’t happen (which is what I’m guessing will happen) I don’t see any other e ticket besides something like fop. Unless we get something totally new (unlikely) what could it be? Imagine it isn’t a e ticket and is another d ticket would be an absolute disaster. The more I think about it hks limited park space for expansion means most modern e ticket rides the park just doesn’t have the space for them.
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Even if quinjet truly is standing up FOP why would Disney propose and why did LegCo approve iron man experience since quinjet would just be an objectively better version of it right next door

None of the stark expo decisions are really making sense

As for limits in space the park has enough room to become good enough to get the attendance to justify the second gate (it just needs to show it can) so I’m not really worried about expansion room, stark expo as a lane just doesn’t really make a lot of sense
 
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J4546

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they gonna make it a moving walkway where you stand in place and shoot at screens


in all seriousness I hope they at least keep that aesthetic of the concept because the exterior multileveled building looks amazing
 

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