Harry Potter IS making a difference!!

DVCOwner

A Long Time DVC Member
Maybe Harry Potter IS making a difference!! I just saw that WDW attendence is up 2% for the last quater of 2010. Maybe people come to see Harry Potter and than send a few days a WDW.
 

loboftbl

Member
Maybe Harry Potter IS making a difference!! I just saw that WDW attendence is up 2% for the last quater of 2010. Maybe people come to see Harry Potter and than send a few days a WDW.

This is not exactly true. The actual quote from the quarterly report is "Domestic attendance came in 2% above prior year levels." This is the first time ever for Disney to combine attendance numbers from Disneyland and Disney World. It is a fact that Disneyland had a big jump in visitors due to new shows at Disneyland/California Adventure. The other side of that would suggest Disney World attendance was down. An article I found a few days ago quotes a Disneyworld exec who states attendance is down. I will keep looking for it.

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2010/12/disney_park_attendance.php
 

WDWJedi

New Member
Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey

Isn't that the revamped walk thru Poseidon Adventure...I tell you what...I am going from Feb 22-26...We have the Harry Potter park EXCLUSIVELY for an evening...Should give me plenty of time to see it all...I'll post back on what I though of it. I am SUPPOSED to be going to WDW with the family in March..but the sale of our home might screw it up...and I'd feel REALLY GUILTY going to WDW property without at LEAST my wife....so I plan to stay away. If I stepped foot on property without the wife...I am sure there would be a tremor in the force that would end in my strangulation from 500 miles away...
 

Pete C

Active Member
unlimited range of motion ≠ limited range of motion

dynamic, user created ride design ≠ static ride design

Soooo, apparently you think the average person can create a ride better than professional ride designers? Why don't we just replace all of Disney's rides with a big room of simulators so people can create their own rides! Forget about storyline, live sets, animitronics, or dramatic video filmed by professionals that brings you into the action. I'm sure a 10-year old can easily outdo that experience in 5 minutes at a terminal. What is so ironic is your post undermines the very thing Disney does best by saying user design is better than static design.

Second, I have been on Pooh's Hunny Hunt. Have you? It's not the most technically advanced ride anymore. It is just vehicles running on GPS signals and has none of the advanced ride vehicle robotics and incredible video syncing going on in FJ that allows each ride vehicle to experience their own view of the action while in the same room, viewing the same physical screen. Tell me 1 other ride that has ever done that. Pooh has extremely rudimentary AAs as well, nothing compared to what is going on in FJ. It is known throughout the industry that FJ is the most advanced ride in operation. You can't just decide that Pooh is more advanced based on what was said many years ago when that ride first opened (11 years ago to be exact). It's a cute ride...no doubt, and very fun, but it is not even close to FJ on a technical level.
 

DisneyJoe

Well-Known Member
From a very recent Sentinel article:

"But attendance also perked up, by 2 percent, between the two coasts, despite disruptive weather during the quarter that included heavy rains in Southern California and a post-Christmas blizzard that grounded air travel across the Northeast.

Although it did not provide specific figures, Disney said Disney World attendance was up "more than 2 percent" during the quarter while Disneyland, in Anaheim, Calif., was "slightly down" from last year. "
 

loboftbl

Member
Yeah I saw it on the 2nd page of the transcript about the attendance during the Q&A. I missed it on first read and after reading that OC article made me think it might be off a little
 

biggiedisney123

New Member
All I have is personal experience, and harry beats sum of all thrills hands down.

I will say this, Disney better watch its back, because hogwarts and hogsmeade (sp?) are very nice and new. It has to make it hard for disney to compete, because there are so many overlapping coats of paint on all disney theming and attractions...

I'm a disney fan through and through, but all the sparkle and polish on HarryPotterLand lol made me swoon a bit...cant wait for the new fantasyland now.
 

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
As a customer of both evil empires I cant say that pressure to improve on either party is a bad thing. I personally am no fan of fairies and spinner rides but more of those may keep the snot gobblers off the attractions I do like.
 

biggiedisney123

New Member
As a customer of both evil empires I cant say that pressure to improve on either party is a bad thing. I personally am no fan of fairies and spinner rides but more of those may keep the snot gobblers off the attractions I do like.

I totally agree with pumbas on this one....plus disney needs butterbeer...stat.
 

AndyMagic

Well-Known Member
Did someone ACTUALLY say that Sum of All Thrills is at all comparable to Forbidden Journey? Come on! That should be grounds for being thrown into a mental institution. :hammer:
 

lebeau

Well-Known Member
Did someone ACTUALLY say that Sum of All Thrills is at all comparable to Forbidden Journey? Come on! That should be grounds for being thrown into a mental institution. :hammer:

For some Disney fans, there is no limit to the delusions caused by inhaling too much pixie dust. Especially in a conversation involving Universal.

Truly, any one who makes such a comparisson has lost all credibility going forward.
 

DVCOwner

A Long Time DVC Member
This is not exactly true. The actual quote from the quarterly report is "Domestic attendance came in 2% above prior year levels." This is the first time ever for Disney to combine attendance numbers from Disneyland and Disney World. It is a fact that Disneyland had a big jump in visitors due to new shows at Disneyland/California Adventure. The other side of that would suggest Disney World attendance was down. An article I found a few days ago quotes a Disneyworld exec who states attendance is down. I will keep looking for it.

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/navelgazing/2010/12/disney_park_attendance.php

I think it is the east coast doing better this time. I think Harry Potter and Walt Disney World being near each other helps both. People come to see one and than visit the other. It is the same reason Lowers builds stores accoss the road from Home Depot
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Disney has The Sum Of All Thrills, same ride system. There is also ToT, which is better than amazing spiderman.

As for the most technologically advanced dark ride, Pooh's Hunny Hunt takes that award.
Sum of all thrills is no where near the same system as FJ.

Your call on TOT is a personal opinion. Both attractions have stand out features.
 

captainkidd

Well-Known Member
For some Disney fans, there is no limit to the delusions caused by inhaling too much pixie dust. Especially in a conversation involving Universal.

Truly, any one who makes such a comparisson has lost all credibility going forward.

Sum of all Thrills is boring.

Then again, I felt FJ was little more than a Kuka version of Soarin'.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
Isn't that the revamped walk thru Poseidon Adventure...I tell you what...I am going from Feb 22-26...We have the Harry Potter park EXCLUSIVELY for an evening...Should give me plenty of time to see it all...I'll post back on what I though of it. I am SUPPOSED to be going to WDW with the family in March..but the sale of our home might screw it up...and I'd feel REALLY GUILTY going to WDW property without at LEAST my wife....so I plan to stay away. If I stepped foot on property without the wife...I am sure there would be a tremor in the force that would end in my strangulation from 500 miles away...

Poseidon's Adventure/Fury is still there. Forbidden Journey is a completely new experience, and at worst is a top 5 attraction in the country.
 

flavious27

Well-Known Member
Soooo, apparently you think the average person can create a ride better than professional ride designers? Why don't we just replace all of Disney's rides with a big room of simulators so people can create their own rides! Forget about storyline, live sets, animitronics, or dramatic video filmed by professionals that brings you into the action. I'm sure a 10-year old can easily outdo that experience in 5 minutes at a terminal. What is so ironic is your post undermines the very thing Disney does best by saying user design is better than static design.

Second, I have been on Pooh's Hunny Hunt. Have you? It's not the most technically advanced ride anymore. It is just vehicles running on GPS signals and has none of the advanced ride vehicle robotics and incredible video syncing going on in FJ that allows each ride vehicle to experience their own view of the action while in the same room, viewing the same physical screen. Tell me 1 other ride that has ever done that. Pooh has extremely rudimentary AAs as well, nothing compared to what is going on in FJ. It is known throughout the industry that FJ is the most advanced ride in operation. You can't just decide that Pooh is more advanced based on what was said many years ago when that ride first opened (11 years ago to be exact). It's a cute ride...no doubt, and very fun, but it is not even close to FJ on a technical level.

Woah, take a breath. I am comparing the aspects of both rides. As for guests making a better roller coaster then disney designers, guests are going to make a coaster that appeals to their personal tastes. No ride designer is going to make a ride to every person likes, reading through these forums will show you that.

As for Hunny Hunt, it is more than pots using gps and navigating around each other, because that is not what is used. Pooh uses sensors almost like rfid that pinpoint where all of the ride vehicles are and can change their directions to match elements of the ride and nearby ride vehicles. This is what makes it advanced for dark rides, the ride system makes each ride unique different from the last one.

As for FJ on a technical level, I would say that whatever steel they use for the track and supports has to be the most advanced part of it, there is a reason they are bolted down and stationary.

This is a joke right? Because if you had been on both you wouldn't even be using both of them in the same sentence.

Just comparing elements of both rides. Sum work on all 6 axes while FJ doesn't. They both use the same basic elements, the rider is attached to a robotic arm, there is a heads up display.

Sum of all thrills is no where near the same system as FJ.

Your call on TOT is a personal opinion. Both attractions have stand out features.

You can feel that amazing's drop is simulated after the first second and the ride hasn't changed nor has the queue area with the same 1 minute video that keeps repeating itself over and over again like you are stuck in the real life version of the song that never ends. ToT is on its 4th drop sequence program, disney has tried to dust off the ride and improve it.
 

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