RSoxNo1
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Although I have to think they got close.
Close isn't good enough for me. Dear Disney, you get the real thing, or you don't do it at all. No excuses.
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Although I have to think they got close.
The entire area has been spruced up during the HM/HoP refurbs. There are still some tarps up in the area but by the time you get there everything should be "new".
Well, after a Twitter tip from our illustrious Webmaster earlier today I headed over the to the Magic Kingdom to see if I might get a chance to see a preview of the rehabbed Hall of Presidents in Liberty Square. Well, lo-and-behold I managed to get in twice this afternoon to see the show.
They Mondaystill in 'test-and-adjust' stage so there is still all sorts of control and sound management equipment all over the theater. The main sound control board is in the middle of the theater so they have a bunch of rows blocked off and spend the whole load period alerting folks to watch out for the cables all over the floor.
The name of the show has been changed to
The Hall of Presidents
A Celebration of Liberty's Leaders
Lobby
Overall the lobby is essentially the same with new carpet and paint. There are two new display cases one off to the right as you come in has various artifacts from presidents and another over to the left with dresses from 3 first lady's. Much of this has been detailed in the articles in newspapers lately.
Security
Because they are in 'test-and-adjust' they were a little obsessive about no photos and had a couple of security guards as well as a dozen or so cast members roaming the lobby during the pre-show wait.
Theater
Other than all of the installation equipment that is still there as defined above the theater looks essentially the same as it was before with some minor adjustments. I don't remember there being handicapped parking at the top of the theater in the past so I think that's new. It's filled up with Imagineers and their stuff now but there appears to be a walled row across the back where mobility impaired vehicles/chairs can be parked without having to go down the sloping floor and try to get back up again.
The seating structure and pattern is essentially the same with apparent refresh of the cushions and chair backs and carpeting. The curtain is a shinier blue than I remember before but other than that it feels quite the same aesthetically as before.
Show
This is where the substantial changes begin and I'll say right here that all of this is my opinion of the show and the reactions I heard during the 2 performances I enjoyed today; your opinions may vary but hopefully this dialog can stay focused on the show experience and not drift off topic.
Morgan Freeman was a great choice as the narrator of this edition of the show and he lends the appropriate air of dignity for such a performance.
The story-line is much less a history lesson than previous versions have been and focuses more on the presidents themselves. A lot of the same artwork that has been seen in various editions has been reused but there were also a lot of new portraits (at least for this show)
It highlights a subset of presidents during the course of the film section including Washington, Andrew Johnson and then the drama really gets started when they get to Lincoln. They use re-edits of the same imagery from the last edition of the show in a shortened version with the same audio overlay of Lincoln in the White House and then the center screen lifts and there is a blue curtain behind and as the lights come up you see an AA of Abraham Lincoln. The blue curtain comes in the from the sides and wraps around behind Lincoln. At that point he stands and recites the entire Gettysburg address. The movement and smoothness of the AA is absolutely amazing with very broad gestures and the most subtle of movement.
The story line continues to the recovery after the Civil war and the two Roosevelt's and up to Kennedy during the movie portion of things most of which was in still photos. After Kennedy it bridges into some film of milestone moments of the recent presidents including Reagan's speach after the Challenger disaster, Clinton at the Oklahoma City bombing memorial service and George W Bush's "I can hear you, the rest of the world hears you" on the bullhorn at the World Trade Center after 9/11.
The film portion ends as before with a shuttle launch as the screens open up and the roll call of presidents begins. Many of them have been moved around from before so you don't feel like you're watching a tennis match as they go through the roll call. The movements on a number of the AA's seems to be enhanced from what it was. They stop the roll call at George W Bush and then George Washington stands from his chair and begins a speach which transitions into his making reference to the oath of office and and then hands off to Obama taking the oath (a re-recording done in the White House) and he bridges into a speach that was also recorded at the White House for this show.
The final sequence that used to have clouds in the background slowly forming into a flag now transitions to video of a waving flag across the rear projection screen behind the capital dome.
My Impressions
I think they've done a fantastic job on the rewrite and staging of the show. I've never had a problem with any of the narrators but Morgan Freeman is certainly a great choice. The pacing is quite good and I really like changing the story line to focus on the presidents and less on general American History which is done so well by American Adventure at Epcot. All of the AA's are great but Lincoln, Washington and Obama are especially amazing achievements. I think the overall highlight for me was Lincoln's Gettysburg address.
The guests at both shows seemed to very much enjoy it and the reaction and applause was very positive.
Those are my thoughts at least.
Can you shed some light on what they're "sprucing up"?
They should be doi...:lookarounAll the building exteriors in the area have been painted and refurbed. I still remember how people raved about how good the mansion looked after the tarps came off. Same for the HoP. New signage for HoP, the HM queue cover is still "new" and I believe the entrance to the LB was recently refurbed. Also, the Diamond Horseshoe exterior was refurbed and although not officially part of LS, it is part of the overall project apparently. The Christmas shop exterior is stll being refurbed from what I hear.
Now before the D&G crowd comes in with the tired "they should be painting everyday" refrain, I want to make a point. I think the HM/LS exterior refurbs go way beyond painting and have dealt with longer term issues of maintenance and sustainability which was probably largely ignored in the recent past. These don't appear to be cheap, slap some paint on it "refreshings." Although it would be nice to hear from someone "in the know" exactly what was done and if we can expect similar refurbs throughout the MK.
Diamond Horseshoe is part of LS.:wave:
They should be doi...:lookaroun
I do agree with you though that this looks like quality, and not a quick fix. What a thought for Disney.
I stand corrected. Thanks!
Thank the sheriff.....:zipit:
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Yup, no problem. You do not cross into Frontierland until you go over the "Mini Mississippi".
Man, I love LS theming. Best in the park, unless we can somehow get rid of Aladdin and bring back AL former glory.
jt, I really do hope you know that that is immature and maddening, making these allusions to a "Sheriff".
You know, if you were to let slip about who it is, it would only help your credibility...
All the building exteriors in the area have been painted and refurbed. I still remember how people raved about how good the mansion looked after the tarps came off. Same for the HoP. New signage for HoP, the HM queue cover is still "new" and I believe the entrance to the LB was recently refurbed. Also, the Diamond Horseshoe exterior was refurbed and although not officially part of LS, it is part of the overall project apparently. The Christmas shop exterior is stll being refurbed from what I hear.
Diamond Horseshoe is part of LS.:wave:
How did they put Diamond Horsehoe in Liberty Square?
Did Gerorge Washington hang out there a lot?
Tks
Liberty Square represents the time from 1670s(Haunted Mansion) to the early 1800s(Diamond Horshoe which is themed to Kansas/Midwestern States).
Well I'm just relieved as this could have been a really big problem if not done right.
My main question because everything has been described so well is the music. Does it have the same score and musical highlights?
I love that GW "passes the torch" to the new President. PERFECT!
PS- Nice to hear Bob Iger was there. And the fact Jay R. was there pretty much destroys the theory that he doesn't give a hoot about the parks. I never bought that anyway.
Finally.........
Way to go TDO!!! :sohappy:
It is Rasulo.This is the best post I have ever seen on this website. "Rasolu came with Iger for free press at an attraction opening!!! So he OBVIOUSLY cares about the parks!!!"
Yup, no problem. You do not cross into Frontierland until you go over the "Mini Mississippi".
Man, I love LS theming. Best in the park, unless we can somehow get rid of Aladdin and bring back AL former glory.
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