Ya, its a double edge sword. There are just two distinct type of guests nowadays and Disney cant please them both all the time. Im coming to terms with it , slowly...and with lots of booze, lol.
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The Empress Lilly
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Well remembered. When post-Eisner TWDC doesn't build a ride based on and swamps the park with merch of their latest IP they have no confidence in their own product and their creatives. When post-Eisner TWDC does build a ride based on their IP, they are destroying Walt's legacy. The spin is strong in this one.
csmat99
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Frozen could of been put in DHS and finally put LM to sleep.
yeti
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That was basically a nice way of phrasing the common complaint that Universal just shoves IPs wherever they see fit. So almost anywhere in USO that isn't Harry Potter. Transformers is a great ride in a building they at least attempted to theme...but it completely, hilariously clashes with its surrounding area. Springfield is fine...but then Men in Black has its own funny little corner too. From what I can tell, USH has even more mishmash. It's frustrating, but Universal's core philosophies are not as dedicated as Disney's (even though they corrected it to some degree with Islands). Sometimes the Studios concept lends itself to another "ride in a box", as long as it's good. And, like I said, usually those IPs are external. We'll see how those other ones turn out....I'm not sure how beloved Twister and Disaster were, but at least they won't completely clash with their neighbors.
Mike S
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I would've gladly taken Frozen over Toy Story Land.
seabreezept813
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Love Toy Story, but have to agree here. I could be crazy, but I think it would be harder to make Frozen look as cheap as the other Toy Story Lands that have been built. But I know Disney could still find a way (here's to looking at you Frozen Sing-along)
Love Toy Story, but have to agree here. I could be crazy, but I think it would be harder to make Frozen look as cheap as the other Toy Story Lands that have been built. But I know Disney could still find a way (here's to looking at you Frozen Sing-along)
ParentsOf4
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Whether it's Tower of Terror or GotG, I suspect the attraction will appeal to the same market segments.
For Disney to "add something", it must either:
1) Bulld a new attraction or
2) Convert an existing unpopular/underutilized attraction into a popular one.
This overlay does neither.
I'll repeat my assertion that this overlay "adds nothing".
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
Whether it's Tower of Terror or GotG, I suspect the attraction will appeal to the same market segments.
For Disney to "add something", it must either:
1) Bulld a new attraction or
2) Convert an existing unpopular/underutilized attraction into a popular one.
This overlay does neither.
I'll repeat my assertion that this overlay "adds nothing".
Isn't the end goal to have this as a part of a whole super heroes area? That is the way I read the blog post about this. I would say that would "add something". Now, whether people like that "something" is a different story.
Daveeeeed
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It could also be due to sightlines in the Marvel area, so having it Guardians themed could fix that at least partially for he Marvel land. Still though, they shouldn't touch a classic that is still incredible to this day.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
I really wouldn't consider DCA's version of ToT to be classic or incredible. It is really incredibly lacking. But, my opinion of course.
Californian Elitist
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Agreed.
ParentsOf4
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Yup, and when Disney actually builds something new or repurposes an underutilized attraction or area, I'll say that they "added something".
Until then, this overlay of an existing popular attraction "adds nothing".
NothingRhymeswithOrange
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100% agree with you. Theres no comparing the DCA version of this ride to the superior WDW version.
I understand the disappointment of closing down such a beloved ride and retheming it to a purchased IP, but since its part of a bigger picture (Marvel Land/Superhero Land) and they are keeping the better version of this alone in FL, its fine IMO. They have to pull this retheme off correctly though. With the Collector's collection in the queue it seems to me like its going in the right direction. Lets hope they don't cheap out and actually have some AAs in there that will blow your mind. They better include the Adam Warlock cocoon we saw in GOTG (any true Marvel fan would be happy just seeing that).
Mike S
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It all depends on execution. SWL in DHS? Great. Frozen in TDS and DL? Great. Marvel Land in DCA? Good but like SWL a third park could've been best for DLR.
FEA and GotG M:B? Not great.
As long as they used the same basic plan as TDS and DL for DHS they would've been fine.
I agree but that doesn't mean GotG should move into it. Being in Florida this doesn't personally affect me but I am sympathetic to DLR fans that only know that version of the ride and can't come to WDW so easily.
NobodyElse
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I'll admit I don't know what the actual plans for the east parking structure look like, but please define "undersized".
Again, what do you mean by "easy access"? Unless Disney obtains right of way for some sort of elevated transportation system, they'll be using street-legal shuttles or buses to cross both Disney Way and Katella Ave.
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I was really dismayed the first time I went how short the line is in the lobby - its like one step in the door, turn right.
DHS could have let us go a bit further into the lobby as well, more in the style of the museum/office part in Everest. An old famous hollywood hotel would have lots of source material for that.
Andrew_Ryan
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Promote the films the studio side is creating by having quality entertainment ready before the film is released, so you aren't hastily throwing together cheap stand-ins when the film does better than expected (think Olaf-on-a-stick and sing-alongs). When the film proves to be successful enough (a billion dollars, I think, meets that mark), then if there is a proper place to fit it in, build a stand alone attraction worthy of the popularity of the IP that can handle the crowds.
These are simple guidelines that don't contradict each other and which proved to be too difficult for current leadership to meet.
Californian Elitist
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This. I have a hard time believing replacing Maelstrom with Frozen Ever After is what people meant when they said they wanted more Frozen in the parks.
Hula Popper
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On the one hand, a small group of folks who believe they are and know better than everyone else, and, thus, believe that their view is the only correct view, and have disdain for those that do not share that view, and on the other hand, everyone else, no matter how diverse, who don't fall in line with the "correct" view??
Given there are millions of people from all over and outside the country who walk through those gates, there are many different types of Disney World guests from different backgrounds and experiences who come with their own personal values, perspectives and preferences. There would be only just two distinct types of guests if the guests are categorized based on a single, narrow and simple binary criterion.....such as, for example, those that buy turkey legs and those that don't. A lot of the topics discussed on this board, don't seem so narrow and binary.