Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout announced for Disney California Adventure

Practical Pig

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But this is OK?

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I don't disagree with any of your points as aspirational goals for WDI's designs, but as CC pointed out there are practical limits to what we should expect, particularly in a densely built property like DLR.

And I don't disagree with either your or CC's points, we're just looking at them from different vantage points and talking about what we can see from where we are, and I much appreciate the cordial tone to the conversation. From where I'm at it comes down to a matter of degree. I've referred elsewhere to the graphics on merchandise in terms of audio volume, and to apply that here, the intrusion of the iconic Disneyland Monorail briefly into the theming of BVS on a track that is theme-appropriate is an outside conversation spoken at a volume that you can choose to over-hear or tune-out. The stylistic clash between the new tower and BVS is a screaming baby on a plane.
 
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Call me dramatic but how does this not go down as one of the worst decisions in DLR history.

Off the top of my head It's like...

DCA1.0
TL 98
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Funny how our different viewpoints may be generational. For me it would be:

Converting the Space Stage into the Magic Eye Theater
Videopolis
A-E Ticket Books

Bonus: Light Magic
 
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And I don't disagree with either your or CC's points, we're just looking at them from different vantage points and talking about what we can see from where we are, and I much appreciate the cordial tone to the conversation. From where I'm at it comes down to a matter of degree. I've referred elsewhere to the graphics on merchandise in terms of audio volume, and to apply that here, the intrusion of the iconic Disneyland Monorail briefly into the theming of BVS on a track that is theme-appropriate is an outside conversation spoken at a volume that you can choose to over-hear or tune-out. The stylistic clash between the new tower and BVS is a screaming baby on a plane.

I think we all may be arguing different things here. Some are saying that because it can be seen across the park the new tower facade throws off the theming and/or sightlines in areas like BV Street while others are saying that they think the building is just ugly. I'm not debating the building's aesthetics (it is ugly), and I recognize the visual tension between MB and the Carthay, but I'm oddly ok with it. Disney's park sight lines aren't always pristine and harmonious. They are often deliberately disruptive and contradictory, which is what I've tried to illustrate.
 
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Practical Pig

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I think we all may be arguing different things here. Some are saying that because it can be seen across park the new tower facade throws off the theming and/or sightlines in areas like BV Street while others are saying that they think the building is just ugly. I'm not debating the building's asthetics (it is ugly), and I recognize the visual tension between ME and the Carthay, but I'm oddly ok with it. Disney's park sight lines aren't always pristine and harmonious. They are often deliberately disruptive and contradictory, which is what I've tried to illustrate.

And you've done it successfully. And you're right that we were on different tracks.

Part of my POV is that in young adulthood I worked in scenic and lighting design in regional theater, having to patch together as much visually engaging experience and focusing audience attention as much as I could manage on very tight schedules and budgets. Practical circumstances were always restrictive on what could be accomplished, but we always strove to both respect the internal logic of the limited worlds we could create, and protect the audience's experience in perceiving it without having to do contortions to suspend their disbelief. Because of that, the clash on BVS is for me a failure of those personally cherished principles.

But let me stress that I have great respect for WDI, and appreciate the fact that they are juggling forces far beyond my experience.

Edited to add the second sentence for a more complete answer.
 
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cheezbat

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Wow...saw the photo of the current state of Mission Breakout...does anyone else think it looks like a new taller colorful version of the Transformers ride building in Orlando?
 

truecoat

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Let's play spot the differences. The model as last shown is close but not exactly what they built. It appears parts are missing that I circled in green. I assume most of those will be added.

Now I wonder about all the brackets I circled in blue? Are they for parts to be added or were any of these for stabilizing the scaffolding?

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Curious Constance

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Let's play spot the differences. The model as last shown is close but not exactly what they built. It appears parts are missing that I circled in green. I assume most of those will be added.

Now I wonder about all the brackets I circled in blue? Are they for parts to be added or were any of these for stabilizing the scaffolding?

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You know what would be hilarious? If all the stuff/pipes on the building currently actually turned out to be scaffolding.
 

mickEblu

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For those who don't like this, suck it up, nothing was EVER going to change Disney's mind, even a day after announcement. If you don't like it, please don't continue your season pass or buy a ticket. I actually prefer when it's not that crowded (and im not outraged about this project) so it would be a win win for me. !

Ummmmm, Im going to go with no.

Just to confirm, if one has a negative opinion on something Disney is doing and voices it, they should stop going to the park or let their annual pass expire? :hilarious:
 

Rich T

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Offering them in the first place. They were probably the most annoying feature of visiting DL and WDW back in the day.
Now, see, I grew up with ticket books and LOVED them. Wouldn't go back to that system, but it was a fun part of that era--plus it allowed folks to pay a low admission-only price if they weren't into rides. What was AWESOME, however, was the brief transition period when you could buy ticket books OR an all-day ride pass. Most guests at the time didn't see the advantage of paying a bit more for the pass, but we Disney ride freaks were in heaven! :D
 

Professortango1

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You know what I hate about the TOT building? It's soooooo flat! I think the concept art looks kind of cool, but in reality the building is so stupidly flat it doesn't look as good, at least yet.

It's very boxy; even more boxy than the concept art and model. The original pieces had sections extending up and out in odd directions to give it a silhouette. The actual project has all of the color boxed within a dark purple square border. I didn't know it was possible to get cheaper looking than the concept model.
 

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