Californian Elitist
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Ghost Galaxy still sucks. Ghost Galaxy and Nightmare Nebula are both bad.
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Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout announced for Disney California Adventure
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Ghost Galaxy still sucks. Ghost Galaxy and Nightmare Nebula are both bad.
Bacon
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What one? the letters on the building? i think its the one on the building
GiveMeTheMusic
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I said on here months ago that exterior work would begin this fall. The exterior changes can't be accomplished in 4 months, so by January TOT is gonna be ugly.
Earl Sweatpants
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Call it a well-educated guess, but here's a short list.
1. Main Street - The shops can alter (Starbucks, etc) but the idea of Main Street won't go away.
2. The Castle - Again, the inside can change, and has, but it's symbolic nature pretty much gives it permanence.
3. The Railroad - Change the track layout all you want, but I feel like it won't ever disappear.
4. Walt's Statue - For obvious reasons.
5. Matterhorn - I have a hard time seeing that ever come down.
By the same token, I feel like staple rides: PotC, HM, heck even JC, will still be around for future generations, albeit updated accordingly.
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I see your point, but everything you've listed has been altered in one way or another since they were built with the exception of Walt's statue, which of course is a relatively recent change to the Hub. Similarly the Tower of Terror ride isn't going anywhere, it's the Twilight Zone storyline that's being changed.
Earl Sweatpants
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I guess then it depends on what you mean by "permanent". There's permanent as in "will always be a part of the park in some way, shape, or form", and there's permanent as in "will never be touched, altered, or moved." In the latter case, I'd say probably not much is permanent, save for maybe the layout of Main Street...but who knows!
Couldn't you argue though that the Twilight Zone storyline IS the ride? The "Tower of Terror" doesn't exist on its own apart from that storyline, so once it changes, ToT goes away with it leaving you with just an empty building. And unless you're going to keep calling the building the "tower of terror" that whole notion will disappear. Of course it will be hard to get people to change their thinking about it...but in principle it will go away.
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mickEblu
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IMO the ride system is staying but TOT is gone. Adding Johnny Depp to POTC or altering the DLRR is not the same as stripping the whole theme from a ride and just leaving the ride system. If POTC was overlayed with Star Wars characters, it definitely wouldn't be POTC anymore.
mickEblu
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On another note....
I still cant believe they re going to wall up the opening doors at the top of the tower for the GOTG overlay. I get that it breaks the theme of being in space but there are breaks in theme all over DLR if we stop allowing ourselves to suspend disbelief. That moment of the ride is all about playing to the riders senses, at that point it's not about theme anymore. It's about the fun of seeing how high you are and a great view of the park. Not to mention what the kinetic energy of seeing and hearing the riders provides. The imagineers are taking this one way too seriously. At a certain point you have to go back to the basics. What makes something fun? Not just how can I get all of the latest technology on these new rides and do something different. IMO, and im getting a little bit off topic now, lot of these next gen rides are missing something.... the fun factor.
I still cant believe they re going to wall up the opening doors at the top of the tower for the GOTG overlay. I get that it breaks the theme of being in space but there are breaks in theme all over DLR if we stop allowing ourselves to suspend disbelief. That moment of the ride is all about playing to the riders senses, at that point it's not about theme anymore. It's about the fun of seeing how high you are and a great view of the park. Not to mention what the kinetic energy of seeing and hearing the riders provides. The imagineers are taking this one way too seriously. At a certain point you have to go back to the basics. What makes something fun? Not just how can I get all of the latest technology on these new rides and do something different. IMO, and im getting a little bit off topic now, lot of these next gen rides are missing something.... the fun factor.
Earl Sweatpants
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Aw come on, you're just not up with the new generation, man! If its not right in front of you on a screen, it can't possibly be any fun!
/sarcasm
mickEblu
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Lol. It's funny that they re going to wall up those doors so they don't break theme but in the meantime they re fitting a square peg into a round hole by overlaying the tower to make GOTG a drop ride.
Earl Sweatpants
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I'm against the whole thing. Disney has failed to make much sense anymore with the majority of their deci$ions.
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Deleted member 107043
I don't disagree with this, but my original point was that change, either dramatic or small, at Disneyland is regular and constant, not an abnormality.
mickEblu
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O so am I. I just figured people are sick of hearing me talk about it. I just recently heard about the doors being walled up. Can anyone confirm this? I don't even remember where I read about it.
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To me the Twilight Zone is the reason or explanation for why we're bouncing up and down on an elevator drop ride. For example, in Japan Disney built a clone of the DCA attraction with a completely different facade and story that sans the Twilight Zone IP. I see a correlation between that treatment of the Tower of Terror attraction and GoTG overlay in California: same ride, different storyline.
mickEblu
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Well I guess it makes cents, not sense. Short term anyway. They can make even more cents if what @Dr. Hans Reinhardt said the other day comes to fruition. Changing the tower back when the buzz for Gaurdians dies down and have TOT come back. Instead of Late Check out. We ll have TOT: Extended Stay kind of like how MSEP never really glowed away. And yes, I meant to rhyme.
Californian Elitist
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I'm not sick of reading your thoughts about this horrible decision. You shouldn't stop voicing your opinion, this is a discussion forum and you've been respectful. Think I'm going to stop talking about how much I hate the idea of SWL in Disneyland? Nope lol.
Earl Sweatpants
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Once the change is made, I have a really hard time seeing it ever go back to its original. Its not like HyperSpace Mountain or HMH where they can just add/remove stuff to change its theme. Plus, this will be the initial herald to the whole new DCA Marvel land. I take this as the first in a soon-to-come permanent re-shaping of that area in DCA, rather than a temporary way to capitalize on GotG.
Earl Sweatpants
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But my question then is, without the Twilight Zone theme, what is the ride? Its just an elevator drop without an identity. Unless you want to say that on its own, its the "Tower of Terror".
mickEblu
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You never know. Maybe in a decade or so? GOTG will be there for a while but we don't know what kind of staying power the IP will have. TOT is timeless. Of course this doesn't take into account that TOT wouldn't really fit in Marvel Land. But IMO that ugly warehouse doesn't fit in the park so....
mickEblu
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This should have just been a temporary overlay while they build a brand new ride for GOTG but oh well.