Guardians of the Galaxy Mission Breakout announced for Disney California Adventure

CHOX

CHOX

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phruby said:
The ride has a AA Rocket Raccoon but you're not happy with that. You want to see living things and "not a cheap robot". You should be fun when SWL opens and you complain about the fake aliens. "I want real aliens not cheap robots!"
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Oh, that's good. Maybe Disney would let us see how they run their alien slave pens.
 
lazyboy97o

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c-one said:
One thing this thread has reminded me of is that the Collector isn't an established enough character to base an e-ticket around, if there's this much debate and confusion about his MO. But at least there's enough of a blank slate that they could say that this is what his fortress looks like.
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The issue is not The Collector. The problem is the internal desire to explain the placement of the attraction and those related inconsistencies.
 
Ismael Flores

Ismael Flores

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EPICOT said:
Even if you didn't pay attention to the video, you could still understand the attraction. The aesthetics and theming told the story rather than it having to be laid out to you textbook style. What's not to get about an abandoned, haunted hotel?
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Well the huanted hotel thing could be clear but why is an elevator involved, why are we going up and down and why are the shafts missing and who are those people, should we care about them? They don't look scary. Why do we see ourself in a mirror dropping what does that have to do with the hotel being huanted.
Without seeing the video all that story would be lost to the guest therefor it is explained.

It's no different than the preshow explaining what Rocket racoon is up to. It helps add layering to the story.
 
Professortango1

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Ismael Flores said:
Well thebhuanted hotel thing could be clear but why is an elevator involved and why are the shafts missing and who are those people.
Without seeing the video all that story would be lost to the guest.
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Its pretty clear why the elevator is involved. Both the facade and queue feature the destroyed elevator shafts. Then the movie tells us the backstory. As for the people, its pretty clear they are 1930's hotel guests. And of course the video is necessary to the attraction, that's why it is included. Its not something in the background, its a room we all stop in for the experience. Luckily, the video does a great job of "show not tell" with the images telling the story rather than having to rely on the words. If you spoke another language, you'd still be able to follow the backstory 100%. With the current layover, its very reliant on dialogue and the video doesn't show all much.
 
Professortango1

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dweezil78 said:
We're waving our hands in the air so Rocket can get into the security room and open the cages. (And because dropping is more fun with our hands in the air.)

It's not really that complicated dude.
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But why do we have access to the security room? If his staff is on our side and helping us, I'm sure they'd have broader clearance than guests. Why didn't Rocket use them to help? And the room opens almost immediately, not even giving time to scan for security clearance. The only time they take time to scan is the brief second as we move into the drop shaft. After that, they kind of stop with that story thread.
 
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Professortango1

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dweezil78 said:
It's totally in line with the source material. It's a comedic series where (SPOILER ALERT) a guy's dad is a freaking planet and a tall tree man (who is best buds with a talking raccoon) dies and comes back as a cute baby tree person. You're looking for logic in a place it simply does not exist.
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There's suspension of disbelief and there's bad writing. Sci Fi can establish their own rules, but they need to abide by them and they should be tied to logic. They make a big deal of the abyss in the lobby video. Well, the writers chose to ignore this issue in the breakout. Why include it at all then? Why set up conflicts if you aren't going to have solutions later? Its a fun ride, but pretty terribly written.
 
Professortango1

Professortango1

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phruby said:
In a haunted hotel why do we go through a set of fake elevator doors, cross a hallway and into another set of doors? At least in MB we are scanned by security before entering the gantry lift.
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I've actually been through hotel maintenance areas and have seen this occur in reality. Plus, the hallway is darkened upon entering, clearly not meant to be seen by incoming guests (and most don't see it the first time they ride.) Asking about that is like asking why there's wires hooked into the signing alligators on Splash Mountain or why there's a track on Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. Because we're looking someplace where we shouldn't and seeing the bones of a theme park. SMH. Keep trolling.
 
October82

October82

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yookeroo said:
You know, it's ok not to like something without tripping over yourself trying to justify it. You probably hurt your argument more than help it with such lame justifications.
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When people make bad arguments in order to support a conclusion that they simply want to be true, it's usually quite easy to respond to them and show why they're wrong.

If you think the comments that myself and others are making are lame justifications, go ahead and respond to them. Because you haven't done so yet. You've merely asserted that you find things straightforward. As I've noted several times, this is a conversation worth having, because clearly other people aren't having the same experiences that you are. Mere assertions that they are incorrect aren't arguments that they are incorrect.

And yes, it is an important conversation - to the extent that anything said on any fan forum is important. I find it interesting how people who think that certain topics aren't worth talking about are also the most interested in wasting vast amounts of time telling others not to talk about it.

So, would you like to have that conversation, or do you prefer to simply write off the views of anyone who disagrees with you as lame?
 
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October82

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Professortango1 said:
Its pretty clear why the elevator is involved. Both the facade and queue feature the destroyed elevator shafts. Then the movie tells us the backstory. As for the people, its pretty clear they are 1930's hotel guests. And of course the video is necessary to the attraction, that's why it is included. Its not something in the background, its a room we all stop in for the experience. Luckily, the video does a great job of "show not tell" with the images telling the story rather than having to rely on the words. If you spoke another language, you'd still be able to follow the backstory 100%. With the current layover, its very reliant on dialogue and the video doesn't show all much.
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This, in general, is why the concept of ToT is so strong. It exploits deep rooted and universal expectations and feelings, conveying story with objects, tone and sensation. The introduction video and ride didn't tell you a story as a passive observer, you experienced it first hand, experiences that were enhanced by a cohesive and "plausible" history to the place.
 

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