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Curious Constance

Curious Constance

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Dr. Hans Reinhardt said:
That's way too much backstory for Grandma and Grandpa from Fresno who want to know what the ride does. Is it a rolercoaster? Does it go upside down? Is it a 3D movie? W T F is it? No one will have a clue from looking at the poster.
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They could do what my husband did and just go with it despite not really knowing what it did, then spend the next two minutes screaming into my brother's stomach.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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Dr. Hans Reinhardt said:
That's way too much backstory for Grandma and Grandpa from Fresno who want to know what the ride does. Is it a rolercoaster? Does it go upside down? Is it a 3D movie? W T F is it? No one will have a clue from looking at the poster.
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First these are ride posters, not ride descriptions. Similar to movie posters they don't provide you the details of the attraction. Its to give you a preview of the elements of the attraction. The maps, which uninformed guests look at, provide the real descriptions of the attractions.

Second I didn't provide any backstory. All I did was describe the elements of the poster and how it was well thought out given the source material.

Third, and I just thought of this, does Grandma and Grandpa even know about the ride posters. I'm betting that most just walk by them and not even notice them.
 
Curious Constance

Curious Constance

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FerretAfros

FerretAfros

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I know this is from several pages back, but I just couldn't let it slide
LuvtheGoof said:
You know, I just went and checked. There hasn't been an attraction built in DL that WASN'T IP related since 1979 when BTMRR opened. Not one that I can see. So I think the pendulum swung the IP way a LONG time ago, and y'all just didn't seem to realize it.
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That's simply not true. The trend of building non-IP attractions remained strong throughout the mid-80's, and continued on into the late-90's. More than anything, this reflects the lack of major development of any kind at DL for the last 40-ish years, since it's essentially a mature park. There are still occasional additions here and there, but parkwide more things have stayed the same than changed since 1979

Here's a list of attractions (excluding entertainment and meet & greets) that have opened since 1979. Surprisingly, the number of IP-focused and non-IP-focused additions in that period is nearly the same, though the trends have certainly shifted in recent years

Non-IP:
  • Magic Journeys (1984)
  • Videopolis (1985)
  • Big Thunder Ranch (1986)
  • Captain EO (1986)
  • Jolly Trolley (1993)
  • Innoventions (1998)
  • Rocket Rods (1998)
Questionably "New", non-IP:
  • Wonders of China (1984)
  • American Journeys (1984)
  • Country Bear Christmas Special (1984)
  • Country Bear Vacation Hoedown (1986)
  • it's a small world holiday (1997)
  • Tomorrowland '98
  • Astro Orbitor (1998)
  • Autopia rebuild (2000)
  • Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln (haircut version) (2001)
  • Space Mountain rebuild (2005)
  • The Disneyland Story (2005)
  • Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln (Hall of Presidents lite version) (2009)
IP-driven:
  • Pinocchio's Daring Journey (1983)
  • Star Tours (1987)
  • Splash Mountain (1989)
  • Mickey's Toontown (1993)
  • Gadget's Go-Coaster (1993)
  • Roger Rabbit's Cartoon Spin (1994)
  • Indiana Jones Adventure (1995)
  • Honey, I Shrunk the Audience (1998)
  • The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (2003)
  • Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters (2005)
Questionably "New", IP driven:
  • Fantasyland 1983
  • Tarzan's Treehouse (1999)
  • Haunted Mansion Holiday (2001)
  • Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage (2007)
  • Pirates Lair on Tom Sawyer Island (2007)
  • Sleeping Beauty Castle Walkthrough (2008)
  • Star Tours (2011)
It's also worth considering the attractions that have closed in this era have been overwhelmingly non-IP focused, which skews the overall balance of what remains toward IPs more than considering only the additions.

It's also far too easy to gloss over DCA, which only had about 20% of its opening day attractions IP-driven in 2001 (though today it's over 80%). Given when the trends started to really shift (both at DLR and Disney parks worldwide), I can't help but think that management learned the wrong lesson from DCA's (and WDSP's) failures, focusing almost entirely on inserting familiar characters as a shortcut for building quality and worthwhile experiences.
 
Californian Elitist

Californian Elitist

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FerretAfros said:
I know this is from several pages back, but I just couldn't let it slide

That's simply not true. The trend of building non-IP attractions remained strong throughout the mid-80's, and continued on into the late-90's. More than anything, this reflects the lack of major development of any kind at DL for the last 40-ish years, since it's essentially a mature park. There are still occasional additions here and there, but parkwide more things have stayed the same than changed since 1979

Here's a list of attractions (excluding entertainment and meet & greets) that have opened since 1979. Surprisingly, the number of IP-focused and non-IP-focused additions in that period is nearly the same, though the trends have certainly shifted in recent years

Non-IP:
  • Magic Journeys (1984)
  • Videopolis (1985)
  • Big Thunder Ranch (1986)
  • Captain EO (1986)
  • Jolly Trolley (1993)
  • Innoventions (1998)
  • Rocket Rods (1998)
Questionably "New", non-IP:
  • Wonders of China (1984)
  • American Journeys (1984)
  • Country Bear Christmas Special (1984)
  • Country Bear Vacation Hoedown (1986)
  • it's a small world holiday (1997)
  • Tomorrowland '98
  • Astro Orbitor (1998)
  • Autopia rebuild (2000)
  • Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln (haircut version) (2001)
  • Space Mountain rebuild (2005)
  • The Disneyland Story (2005)
  • Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln (Hall of Presidents lite version) (2009)
IP-driven:
  • Pinocchio's Daring Journey (1983)
  • Star Tours (1987)
  • Splash Mountain (1989)
  • Mickey's Toontown (1993)
  • Gadget's Go-Coaster (1993)
  • Roger Rabbit's Cartoon Spin (1994)
  • Indiana Jones Adventure (1995)
  • Honey, I Shrunk the Audience (1998)
  • The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (2003)
  • Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters (2005)
Questionably "New", IP driven:
  • Fantasyland 1983
  • Tarzan's Treehouse (1999)
  • Haunted Mansion Holiday (2001)
  • Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage (2007)
  • Pirates Lair on Tom Sawyer Island (2007)
  • Sleeping Beauty Castle Walkthrough (2008)
  • Star Tours (2011)
It's also worth considering the attractions that have closed in this era have been overwhelmingly non-IP focused, which skews the overall balance of what remains toward IPs more than considering only the additions.

It's also far too easy to gloss over DCA, which only had about 20% of its opening day attractions IP-driven in 2001 (though today it's over 80%). Given when the trends started to really shift (both at DLR and Disney parks worldwide), I can't help but think that management learned the wrong lesson from DCA's (and WDSP's) failures, focusing almost entirely on inserting familiar characters as a shortcut for building quality and worthwhile experiences.
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Preach!
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
FerretAfros said:
I know this is from several pages back, but I just couldn't let it slide

That's simply not true. The trend of building non-IP attractions remained strong throughout the mid-80's, and continued on into the late-90's. More than anything, this reflects the lack of major development of any kind at DL for the last 40-ish years, since it's essentially a mature park. There are still occasional additions here and there, but parkwide more things have stayed the same than changed since 1979

Here's a list of attractions (excluding entertainment and meet & greets) that have opened since 1979. Surprisingly, the number of IP-focused and non-IP-focused additions in that period is nearly the same, though the trends have certainly shifted in recent years

Non-IP:
  • Magic Journeys (1984)
  • Videopolis (1985)
  • Big Thunder Ranch (1986)
  • Captain EO (1986)
  • Jolly Trolley (1993)
  • Innoventions (1998)
  • Rocket Rods (1998)
Questionably "New", non-IP:
  • Wonders of China (1984)
  • American Journeys (1984)
  • Country Bear Christmas Special (1984)
  • Country Bear Vacation Hoedown (1986)
  • it's a small world holiday (1997)
  • Tomorrowland '98
  • Astro Orbitor (1998)
  • Autopia rebuild (2000)
  • Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln (haircut version) (2001)
  • Space Mountain rebuild (2005)
  • The Disneyland Story (2005)
  • Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln (Hall of Presidents lite version) (2009)
IP-driven:
  • Pinocchio's Daring Journey (1983)
  • Star Tours (1987)
  • Splash Mountain (1989)
  • Mickey's Toontown (1993)
  • Gadget's Go-Coaster (1993)
  • Roger Rabbit's Cartoon Spin (1994)
  • Indiana Jones Adventure (1995)
  • Honey, I Shrunk the Audience (1998)
  • The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (2003)
  • Buzz Lightyear Astro Blasters (2005)
Questionably "New", IP driven:
  • Fantasyland 1983
  • Tarzan's Treehouse (1999)
  • Haunted Mansion Holiday (2001)
  • Finding Nemo Submarine Voyage (2007)
  • Pirates Lair on Tom Sawyer Island (2007)
  • Sleeping Beauty Castle Walkthrough (2008)
  • Star Tours (2011)
It's also worth considering the attractions that have closed in this era have been overwhelmingly non-IP focused, which skews the overall balance of what remains toward IPs more than considering only the additions.

It's also far too easy to gloss over DCA, which only had about 20% of its opening day attractions IP-driven in 2001 (though today it's over 80%). Given when the trends started to really shift (both at DLR and Disney parks worldwide), I can't help but think that management learned the wrong lesson from DCA's (and WDSP's) failures, focusing almost entirely on inserting familiar characters as a shortcut for building quality and worthwhile experiences.
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I would think it is also important to consider what would have been built had either WestCOT or Port Disney moved forward.
 
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