News Guardians of the Galaxy Cosmic Rewind attraction confirmed for Epcot

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I’m curious what people would have thought if they decided to make the coaster building look like the former UoE showbuilding and it matched this look:
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So if the box was still 130 feet tall (and still a box) but instead of blue and green paint they made it match this style on the outside would it still be a problem? You would definitely still see it from World Showcase and it would stand out a lot more, but it would be designed in the style of Future World.
 

kthomas105

Well-Known Member
I’m curious what people would have thought if they decided to make the coaster building look like the former UoE showbuilding and it matched this look:
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So if the box was still 130 feet tall (and still a box) but instead of blue and green paint they made it match this style on the outside would it still be a problem? You would definitely still see it from World Showcase and it would stand out a lot more, but it would be designed in the style of Future World.

Personally I'm good with that. For me its not that this new building ruins Epcot, because it doesn't, its that they decided green and blue paint would make it go away.
 

RandySavage

Well-Known Member
I totally understand the intention - and with a lower-profile building like Soarin' you can basically get away with this kind of method. You only really notice that if you're looking for it, and of course people like us are, but it doesn't command attention in a quick glance and it doesn't remind you of itself throughout the course of your visit.

The Guardians building is so massive that the scale is what calls attention to it - this trick doesn't work on something this large. It's easily noticeable from the farthest reaches of the park because of how big it is. It's taller and wider than 90% of the structures around it. It's anecdotal, but the amount of guests I heard asking about this thing while I was in Epcot earlier this month was greater than I would have expected, even as someone who thinks it's a mistake. It's clearly not going unnoticed.

Insult is added to injury when you remember that this building is attached to what was already the largest Pavilion in Epcot, which has been gutted to be used almost completely as glorified queue space. That they didn't find a way to make better use of the amount of space they're giving to this ride, even after overtaking that building, is astounding.

I should mention that this is really the source of my ire here - it's not just that the show building is so large. It's that it's so large, unthemed, badly "masked", for a ride making poor use of existing space, doing so with an IP that doesn't suit the theme park . . . if the one sin was that it had a showbuilding too large I'd still call it out but perhaps less adamantly. When every single turn of this project seems to be a misstep it's harder to let it go. They're building an ill-fitting forest with ugly trees. Who knows, maybe the ride will be cool, but Epcot needs more than just "a cool ride". And it used to be about so, so much more, AND had cool rides. And none of them were housed in a building as obviously lame as this.

The closest cousin to this is Indiana Jones at Disneyland, which is visible from Downtown Disney and the tram, but isn't as nearly large as the Guardians building, is painted to blend in with the high-growth foliage around it, is not visible from within the park, made innovative use of space in a park that is desperately compact, AND houses an attraction that fits the theme of the land it's in. They also managed to do all of this nearly 25 years ago, and for less money than Guardians is costing - even with inflation:

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I'm sure if the ride weren't totally great there would be more complaints about it. But they had every opportunity to do improve over these points at Epcot and instead somehow did worse on all of them (quality of ride TBD, of course). At this point it had really better be astounding, or the project will just be a total misfire.

Perfectly put.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
We're only tourists, after all.

Perhaps your ideal of Epcot has outlived the reality of today's WDW guest, who, for the most part, neither knows nor cares about what Epcot was, or should have been, but is focused on what it is today... a Disney park with very few Disney characters in it.
This today you describe isn’t an indifference or rejection of EPCOT Center, but a rejection of theme parks as a whole concept. Themed entertainment is not some concept best left for the past, it is a beautiful and powerful medium that realizes stories in a manner like no other medium.
 

MisterPenguin

President of Animal Kingdom
Premium Member
Yeah. The big blue box. Can’t miss it.

Yep. And while Disney could have done a lot better, IMO, it's not as bad as some make it out to be. TBH, I had never noticed the new Soarin' building while in Epcot until it was pointed out to me. When in Japan, I actually don't notice the new box except when I am specifically looking for it.

Just like I don't notice all the pipes and fences and ductwork and beams and all the other times you can see backstage buildings unless I'm looking for it. Go away green is called 'go away' for a reason. It tells human perception don't look for it. All the forced perspective that Disney does suddenly looks silly when you focus on it and realize the second floor is only five feet tall.

Disney could have and should have done better, but, it's not a deal breaker... for me.
 

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