englanddg
One Little Spark...
Or an avoidance area for me. I'd rather stay away from them, as I just end up with this cumbersome eye apparatus, and I don't get to appreciate the effects.
Or...I wear contacts.
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Or...I wear contacts.
Contacts help I just sit still for a bit and try to forget they are there. I appreciated this film in 3d the ice power effects were fantastic in 3d
englanddg
One Little Spark...
When I saw this, I knew Disney Animation was waking back up...
Here's the full video, since I can't find it on youtube anymore...
http://www.wimp.com/romanticshort/
This could be a very fun time for animation nerds!
Here's the full video, since I can't find it on youtube anymore...
http://www.wimp.com/romanticshort/
This could be a very fun time for animation nerds!
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englanddg
One Little Spark...
I'd suspect they were. My eyesight is so bad that even the top of the line ones are rather thick...so, contacts bother me. I wear them during physical activity or when I go to the parks (physical activity)...
I honestly don't care if its a carbon copy I want a world of color show somewhere on property. I know this has been stated before but would echo lake be adjustable for this?
englanddg
One Little Spark...
No, too small. Illuminations is the best bet unless they do something at Animal Kingdom.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
I'd add, if they can tell that much story with NO dialogue (the Paperman)...
Disney should have been able to tell a much BETTER story with Frozen.
But, I hope this is just an application movie...something to prove they can do it. Because, if they can, my god, we are in for some great stories in the future!
Disney should have been able to tell a much BETTER story with Frozen.
But, I hope this is just an application movie...something to prove they can do it. Because, if they can, my god, we are in for some great stories in the future!
Wilt Dasney
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Funny you mention O&C. I saw it a couple weeks ago during a Passholders event at Disneyland for the 25th anniversary. It's strange to me that this movie is 25 years old, because I have very clear memories of the marketing push behind it when it was released (right around the same time as Who Framed Roger Rabbit). I was in 2nd grade, never saw it in the theaters and was never motivated to track it down on video, so I was curious enough to check it out at Disneyland. My main impression walking out was "I can see why Disney animation was in trouble in the '80s." A nice little story, all the fun that comes with a New York setting, some memorable music from Billy Joel and Huey Lewis, but just not a lot going on. Basically a cartoon short blown up into feature length. But oh, what waited around the corner...
Frozen definitely beats Oliver & Company on any objective scale. If what's coming is as much better than Frozen as TLM was than O&C, well...we should all be so lucky.
Magenta Panther
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The trouble with 3D glasses for me is that after wearing them during a two-hour movie, they leave a mark on the bridge of my nose. I leave the theater looking like I've been in a knife fight.
DisneyFan 2000
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Just wanted to chime in and add my very short thoughts: This is is most gleeful I've ever been coming out of a Disney feature in I don't know how long. I enjoyed Tangled, though thought it left something to be desired - especially in the music department ("When Will My Life Begin" and "Kingdom Dance" aside) and Wreck-It-Ralph was awesome, but it felt like it was shying away from the most critical elements that made Disney, well, Disney (music, magic, a sense of innocence).
Frozen, however, feels right at place as the next hit alongside classics from the 90s. The characters are amazingly animated and written, the story has a couple of really surprising twists and the score and songs - My, my. I thought I'd never feel like I felt during the 90s again but then Let It Go started. I always assumed my love for past tunes was heavily reliant on nostalgia but now I know I was just waiting for the right track to play. The soundtrack is amazing and works best within the context of the movie and characters which, in my opinion, is always a sign that the songs fit the piece and not the other way around. As for the critics disappointed by the lack of a classic villain... Sure, I'll give you that point, there was the opportunity to make the Snow Queen truly evil. I, however, enjoyed seeing such a complex character come to life - and the subtext was enduring. The idea of hiding who you are and what you can do is something I bet a lot of people will relate to fairly easily. I'm hitting this one again tomorrow, and is already on my Blu-Ray purchase list.
(I won't even get started on that short at the beginning which had me become so giddy and childlike I was almost embarrassed for myself.)
Frozen, however, feels right at place as the next hit alongside classics from the 90s. The characters are amazingly animated and written, the story has a couple of really surprising twists and the score and songs - My, my. I thought I'd never feel like I felt during the 90s again but then Let It Go started. I always assumed my love for past tunes was heavily reliant on nostalgia but now I know I was just waiting for the right track to play. The soundtrack is amazing and works best within the context of the movie and characters which, in my opinion, is always a sign that the songs fit the piece and not the other way around. As for the critics disappointed by the lack of a classic villain... Sure, I'll give you that point, there was the opportunity to make the Snow Queen truly evil. I, however, enjoyed seeing such a complex character come to life - and the subtext was enduring. The idea of hiding who you are and what you can do is something I bet a lot of people will relate to fairly easily. I'm hitting this one again tomorrow, and is already on my Blu-Ray purchase list.
(I won't even get started on that short at the beginning which had me become so giddy and childlike I was almost embarrassed for myself.)
216bruce
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Best music, for me, since "Hunchback", even though I loved the music in PATF. Beautifully rendered backgrounds, effective use of 3D. Well written and generally very, very good. Yeah, it's a classic Disney princess film post "Mermaid", but there's nothing wrong with that. First soundtrack that I really wanted to buy and listen to as fast as I could.
Only negative- Big eyed princesses look almost like aliens. Hmmmm, maybe...nah.
Only negative- Big eyed princesses look almost like aliens. Hmmmm, maybe...nah.
RandomPrincess
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Entertainment Weekly seems to like Frozen. They have a bunch of little articles and blog posts. The latest is ranking the 9 songs in the movie (they love the music). The descriptions maybe spoilers -
9. “Frozen Heart”The movie’s opening number features a chorale of harmonizing ice harvesters (obviously the best kind of ice harvesters) singing about how much they love chopping up ice. We never see or hear from these hefty fellas again, and because the song is basically a giant warning about the dangers of frozen things, I give it last place because of heavy-handed foreshadowing (and because I forgot it’s even a song).
8. “Reindeer(s) Are Better Than People”Why even cast Jonathan Groff in a musical if he only gets to sing for 51 seconds, half of which involve his Willard Scott “reindeer voice”? I suppose it’s always dreamy listening to Groff sing anything, even for a nanosecond, but damn if I didn’t wish he got a tenor power ballad. (P.S. What’s with the parenthetical?)
7. “For the First Time in Forever (Reprise)”Elsa and Anna’s big confrontation song is also an epiphany song, and the two couple perfectly for a vocal explosion of character self-realization and divas in counterpoint. Kudos to Kristen Bell for even trying to get a belt in edgewise while Idina Menzel chant-riffs all over the place.
6. “Do You Want to Build a Snowman?”Sixth place for this charming little prologue will probably upset some folks, but the only good part of this song is the last verse. Sorry about it. For what it’s worth, it’s heartbreaking and super super sad, but unfortunately it doesn’t particularly beg for repeat listening, and certainly not above the next five.
5. “Love Is an Open Door”This sickly sweet declaration of romance between Anna and her shady-speedy fiancé Hans is goofy and giddy. The scene in the movie is loaded with laughs, but on the soundtrack, it’s a bright blast of fresh air amid some of the slower numbers. Knowing Bobby Lopez’s humor, I imagine that the song’s over-the-top so-in-love enthusiasm is a self-reflexive joke in and of itself, sort of like Enchanted. Or, like, Donny and Marie.
4. “For the First Time in Forever”Ah, the “I wish” number for a new generation. Bell easily sells the first half of this song with the angelic optimism of a Disney princess and the confident vibrato of a Broadway ingénue, and it’s hard not to love her or what she brings to the princess roster. (Show me Belle or Mulan singing the lyric “Don’t know if I’m elated or gassy, but I’m somewhere in that zone.”) When Menzel joins in, the magic in Bell’s soaring notes, well, flies. This (along with “Let It Go”) is the top-of-your-lungs shower song you’ve been dreaming of since “Part of Your World.”
3. “In Summer”Chalk third place up to Josh Gad’s infectious comic charm, which is conveyed even without seeing the shenanigans onscreen. Though I’ve always equated Gad’s vibrato to a Tickle Me Elmo undergoing tapotement massage mid-earthquake, the Book of Mormon vet’s unique sound works particularly well for snowman Olaf’s big song. The lyrics are fun and frothy (you can tell the Lopezes had a ball writing this one), and the casual ominousness (“I’ll be doing whatever snow does in summer”) is just hilariously dark.
2. “Let It Go”Yes, this song should technically be No. 1. Demi Lovato’s cover is fine, but she barely does justice to the impeccable vocals of Menzel, whose Tony-winning voice is bespoke for this lofty song (as the composers told EW). Part “Defying Gravity,” part “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore” (which, I guess, is technically still “Defying Gravity”), Elsa’s big number is an incredible anthem of liberation, matched by the animators’ spectacular visuals when she shirks her responsibilities and builds a mesmerizing crystalline palace. I dare you to listen and not feel chills.
1. “Fixer Upper”Say whatever you want, but the trolls’ number is hands down the best song in the movie: the de facto “Be Our Guest” and the jubilant group number that’s going to win over the adults in the crowd as well as the kids. I don’t know if it’s the random characters (like sassy-mouthed Baby Troll), the melody that harkens back to the great Disney classics, or the fabulously random gospel break at the end. I simply can’t stop listening to this song; there’s nothing to fix about it.
9. “Frozen Heart”The movie’s opening number features a chorale of harmonizing ice harvesters (obviously the best kind of ice harvesters) singing about how much they love chopping up ice. We never see or hear from these hefty fellas again, and because the song is basically a giant warning about the dangers of frozen things, I give it last place because of heavy-handed foreshadowing (and because I forgot it’s even a song).
8. “Reindeer(s) Are Better Than People”Why even cast Jonathan Groff in a musical if he only gets to sing for 51 seconds, half of which involve his Willard Scott “reindeer voice”? I suppose it’s always dreamy listening to Groff sing anything, even for a nanosecond, but damn if I didn’t wish he got a tenor power ballad. (P.S. What’s with the parenthetical?)
7. “For the First Time in Forever (Reprise)”Elsa and Anna’s big confrontation song is also an epiphany song, and the two couple perfectly for a vocal explosion of character self-realization and divas in counterpoint. Kudos to Kristen Bell for even trying to get a belt in edgewise while Idina Menzel chant-riffs all over the place.
6. “Do You Want to Build a Snowman?”Sixth place for this charming little prologue will probably upset some folks, but the only good part of this song is the last verse. Sorry about it. For what it’s worth, it’s heartbreaking and super super sad, but unfortunately it doesn’t particularly beg for repeat listening, and certainly not above the next five.
5. “Love Is an Open Door”This sickly sweet declaration of romance between Anna and her shady-speedy fiancé Hans is goofy and giddy. The scene in the movie is loaded with laughs, but on the soundtrack, it’s a bright blast of fresh air amid some of the slower numbers. Knowing Bobby Lopez’s humor, I imagine that the song’s over-the-top so-in-love enthusiasm is a self-reflexive joke in and of itself, sort of like Enchanted. Or, like, Donny and Marie.
4. “For the First Time in Forever”Ah, the “I wish” number for a new generation. Bell easily sells the first half of this song with the angelic optimism of a Disney princess and the confident vibrato of a Broadway ingénue, and it’s hard not to love her or what she brings to the princess roster. (Show me Belle or Mulan singing the lyric “Don’t know if I’m elated or gassy, but I’m somewhere in that zone.”) When Menzel joins in, the magic in Bell’s soaring notes, well, flies. This (along with “Let It Go”) is the top-of-your-lungs shower song you’ve been dreaming of since “Part of Your World.”
3. “In Summer”Chalk third place up to Josh Gad’s infectious comic charm, which is conveyed even without seeing the shenanigans onscreen. Though I’ve always equated Gad’s vibrato to a Tickle Me Elmo undergoing tapotement massage mid-earthquake, the Book of Mormon vet’s unique sound works particularly well for snowman Olaf’s big song. The lyrics are fun and frothy (you can tell the Lopezes had a ball writing this one), and the casual ominousness (“I’ll be doing whatever snow does in summer”) is just hilariously dark.
2. “Let It Go”Yes, this song should technically be No. 1. Demi Lovato’s cover is fine, but she barely does justice to the impeccable vocals of Menzel, whose Tony-winning voice is bespoke for this lofty song (as the composers told EW). Part “Defying Gravity,” part “I’m mad as hell and I’m not going to take it anymore” (which, I guess, is technically still “Defying Gravity”), Elsa’s big number is an incredible anthem of liberation, matched by the animators’ spectacular visuals when she shirks her responsibilities and builds a mesmerizing crystalline palace. I dare you to listen and not feel chills.
1. “Fixer Upper”Say whatever you want, but the trolls’ number is hands down the best song in the movie: the de facto “Be Our Guest” and the jubilant group number that’s going to win over the adults in the crowd as well as the kids. I don’t know if it’s the random characters (like sassy-mouthed Baby Troll), the melody that harkens back to the great Disney classics, or the fabulously random gospel break at the end. I simply can’t stop listening to this song; there’s nothing to fix about it.
RandomPrincess
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My daughter literally could not see in 3D through 3D glasses due to her lazy eye. It's about half way corrected now. She can see some 3D but not all. My mom also gets headaches from 3D movies due to eye issues. I try to wear contacts too if choosing to see a 3D movie. Since the 3 of us are going to see Frozen together we will not be seeing it in 3D it's a waste of money for us.
SpectroMan93
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Frozen is pretty much a guaranteed hit in North America at this point, pulling in $26.86 million on Friday and pulling way ahead of Tangled's 3-day start. I really need to see this movie asap.
RandomPrincess
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Saw it and LOVED it! My 4 yo DD loved it too! She's not a big princess movie fan when she wants to watch a movie it's Wreak It Ralph, Cars or Nemo but she really liked Frozen and asked when we could watch it again. Of course Olaf was a big favorite but she seemed to get some of the "message" of the movie as well. That Elsa wasn't bad or mean but she needed help. She was singing to Let It Go during the credits.
I LOVED it too. I was scared it had been over hyped in it's greatness to the point I would be disappointed but I really liked it. I think this is the first Disney movie to have such a huge emotional impact on me since I was a preteen watching The Little Mermaid and agreeing with Ariel "Bright young women, sick of swimmin', ready to to stand".
Elsa (maybe since I was an older sister who had to grow up to soon) I really identified with her.
The song with the ice harvesters really invoked the Roustabouts song from Dumbo for me.
I was pretty much tearing up the whole childhood part of the movie. Do you wanna build a Snow Man had me.
All the songs were great in context of the movie. I'm still upset they have Jonathan Groff and he didn't get a real song. I'm assuming some of his possible songs ended up cut since they wrote about 30 songs for the film over the production.
Spoilers ----
Love that the sister save each other in the end. Love that people tell Anna she's crazy for wanting to marry someone she's known for a day. Love that the sister save each other and the act of "true love" wasn't what you expect. Some how they managed to make a fairy tale that seems fresh, modern and classic at the same time. They also did it without winking at the audience or mocking classic Disney.
I LOVED it too. I was scared it had been over hyped in it's greatness to the point I would be disappointed but I really liked it. I think this is the first Disney movie to have such a huge emotional impact on me since I was a preteen watching The Little Mermaid and agreeing with Ariel "Bright young women, sick of swimmin', ready to to stand".
Elsa (maybe since I was an older sister who had to grow up to soon) I really identified with her.
The song with the ice harvesters really invoked the Roustabouts song from Dumbo for me.
I was pretty much tearing up the whole childhood part of the movie. Do you wanna build a Snow Man had me.
All the songs were great in context of the movie. I'm still upset they have Jonathan Groff and he didn't get a real song. I'm assuming some of his possible songs ended up cut since they wrote about 30 songs for the film over the production.
Spoilers ----
Love that the sister save each other in the end. Love that people tell Anna she's crazy for wanting to marry someone she's known for a day. Love that the sister save each other and the act of "true love" wasn't what you expect. Some how they managed to make a fairy tale that seems fresh, modern and classic at the same time. They also did it without winking at the audience or mocking classic Disney.
jdmdisney99
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This was one of my favorite parts. I thought they were going to pull an Enchanted and Kristoff would come back and kiss her after Hans's kiss failed, and they would live happily after ever. But the plot twist with Hans through me for a loop. Finally, when the real act of true love occurred, I was very happy with the movie.
englanddg
One Little Spark...
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That was a great twist. The last 1/3rd of the movie was really good, I thought. Something I would have like to have seen (and I think would have kicked the plot up another notch) is if Elsa had gone alittle more into the "Dark Side". Years of repression and isolation and her embracing of her powers, I thought it would have set up the character not to want to isolate, but want to dominate. To vent years of pent up frustration on others.
They almost went there when the two bowmen attacked her...but, I would have liked her to be a bit more...well...evil. Not Maleficent evil...there's still a kind heart, but it's frozen. That way, she's actually more sympathetic, since you know WHY she ended up that way. Rather than just coming off as helpless and depressed.
I know this would have fundamentally changed the character, but I think it would have made the ending dynamic (undying love of her sister) more poignant, and the final scene even more powerful.
I also wish they'd at least TRIED to explain why she had those powers. They could easily have tied that to the trolls. Maybe, while building a snowman with her sister as a child while the family camps, a freak snowstorm traps her, or she gets buried in an avalanche. A wise Troll hears her pleas for help, and "gifts" her the power to keep her alive. Her distraught parents are amazed when the Ice Vendors (and a young Kristoff) find her...BAM opening of the movie right there!