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Frozen ride replacing Maelstrom?
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Matt_Black
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Hey, if that means we get sharks with frickin' laser beams on their heads, then I'm all for it.
EPCOTCenterLover
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I wonder where Frozen will end up at Disneyland. Perhaps in that large plot of land by Big Thunder. Or back by Small World...
The Empress Lilly
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Lol. Some telling quotes for whomever doesn't have the time to watch Norwegians decrying the destruction of their pavilion:
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I suppose that it would be telling, if Disney's specific plans for the area had already been released. As it is, however, not so much.
Mike S
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They were talking about things that have already happened like space in the store being taken up by the meet and greet. They did mention the rumored ride as well but that wasn't really the focus.
lazyboy97o
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Except that there has been plenty of talk here about how including Frozen is appropriate. The issue is the very idea, not the execution. An American film is not Norwegian culture and this group of Norwegians seem to agree.
The Empress Lilly
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It is telling of Norwegians' feelings, not of the likelihood of any Disney's plans.
Norwegians will tell you that Denmark beating Norway 36-2 at women's handball would suck, regardless of whether that comes to fruition or not.
DisneyGentleman
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Wouldn't it be fun to see someone in Norway do an animated film about the US, full of stereotyped American behavior?
RadiatorSpringsRacer
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Yankee Mouse
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Only if they follow up with a ride.
It is extremely telling. Also, the negative image many have of Americans for our insensitive ways towards foreign culture is not helped by actions such as applying Frozen to a Norwegian pavilion simply because "we like it there", or "its the most convenient". Was World Showcase not created in part to ACCURATELY display the beauty of the cultures around the world and to also, heaven forbid, educate a few people?
I dont care if times have changed since the inception of EPCOT and WS and some may feel it should just be entertainment based now because they want to simply ride in a boat and see Anna and Elsa. I believe that is the most telling fact that we need the educational aspect now more than ever.
DinoInstitute
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I am so mad at you! I was really warming up to the idea of Frozen at Maelstrom and then you have to go ahead and post that and now I am upset about it again!
I would love to see a Frozen attraction as much as you, just in the proper place.I am so mad at you! I was really warming up to the idea of Frozen at Maelstrom and then you have to go ahead and post that and now I am upset about it again!
Would Americans be offended if Tokyo Disney built an American themed area that was strictly aimed at representing our culture and history but for the attraction they used Lilo and Stitch surfing instead of our Founding Fathers, or the tale of our countries battles to gain independence or any one of the amazing stories that would much better display who we are as a people and not just some fictional land in a boat ride because little Japanese Johnny doesnt want to learn anything? Would you want visitors of the attraction walking away thinking thats how we live and thats what we are about?
You would have news channels across the country highlighting Tokyo Disneys insensitivity towards our great nation and people would be calling for boycotts and damn near wanting to go to war over it probly. But its ok if we do it to another country because we know whats best.
The Empress Lilly
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Yes. And let's imagine American college students going to Norway for a year to represent their country at a World's Fair theme park. They receive training to talk with Norwegians about life back in the States. Only to find that the American pavilion consists of WALL·E Land. What an affront. And to add insult to injury, all of the other countries' pavilions have cultural themes.
And imagine what kids will ask! They might get a completely wrong impression of America and end up asking such uninformed questions as "Is it true that lots of Americans are obese and drive scooters and are prone to slaverish consumerism?" Which, as we all know, couldn't be further from the truth and...wait...hang on...
lazyboy97o
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Even using something like Wall•E is not quite the same as that is an American film. But I am waiting for someone who said this was a great fit to say these Norwegians are wrong (or at least try to argue that this is just a very small group that just happens to be more vocal).
A ride in TusenFryd.
Since you are begging for someone to respond. Here it is: I think that it is likely that the one news story that you dug up isn't necessarily representative of how everyone in Norway feels on this issue. I would bet that far and away, most Norwegians are not aware of the issue, at all. Further, I bet that most Norwegians are not even aware that there is a Norwegian pavilion in Epcot. Finally, I bet that if someone impartially explained the issue to them, that most Norwegians would not care one way or the other and that the remainder would fall on either side of the issue. Some would like it. Some would hate it.
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SJN1279
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Maelstrom currently uses Trolls, a Polar Bear, and a movie that nobody watches.....I don't think Frozen is a step down. Frozen is actually bringing people into Norway, and the attraction they have now that shows how frozen relates to Norway is pretty neat.
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