The problem with that theory is that to many of the folks here that was when everything worked perfectly and all was well with the world. Now is when they are making junk according to them. I suppose we should take into consideration how much more technically complex everything is in todays world, but, we won't. That would make it harder to be critical.
You're right. It's probably not right to blame Imagineering for this, they did a good job with the crappy hand, but this was such a mistake there's plenty of blame to go around.
Totally agree. I actually think that the fact that they did such a good job with a crappy hand speaks volumes on Imagineering's expertise.
This^The 'same ride' we know nothing about?
Crystal ball?
The 'same ride' that all insiders who have talked about it said is on a much larger scale than what we got in Epcot. Since it was talked about on here from before the time of Tokyo's announcement I tend to believe it is still accurate. The ride we got is nice but knowing that Disney is making a better one elsewhere that includes Disneyland and not just another one of those amazing rides that will forever remain overseas you can see where these feelings come from.The 'same ride' we know nothing about?
The thing is that by the time the Maelstrom was built categorized attractions no longer exited in a public sense. I made my very first visit to WDW 4 months after Epcot opened. There was no mention of "tickets" or "catagorys". It wasn't until years later when I started to go to Disney Discussion Sites that I even ever heard of it. It might have been built to be a solid "D" but the public didn't know that, so what kept them away?
Another thing to consider is that the Asian parks seem to operate by the old (and much higher) Disney standard of creating and building new attractions that re absolutely amazing. WDW uses the "good enough" standard. Just take a look at Shanghai, everything is pretty amazing. Or if Tokyo DL, Disney Sea, or even Hong Kong announce a new ride, you can bet its going to be done the right away and on a large scale. Now lets look at WDW. Everything they build, (or shoehorn), we have to adopt a "lets wait and see" mindstate.
I personally never felt that there was anything wrong with omni-movers and I still don't. In fact, I wish all four parks were loaded with them. What my comment was about is that "todays expert" is expecting that Disney should create a whole new system of transport for every new attraction. They don't want to see a duplication of any past system otherwise it earns their disapproval. It wasn't the ride system in Epcot that was the problem it was that in many ways each attraction overlapped in story. Yes, it was FutureWorld and the only thing that addressed the future was Horizons. Everything else was a timeline from beginning to a few steps into the future and not much more. It was never the ride system that got old it was the story line. Let's face it even imagination, after the initial turn table show, was a snore fest. Creative yes, but, a lot less then interesting. All it had, in my opinion was that "one little spark of inspiration" in the imagining and creation of the opening scene with Dreamfinder and Figment. Without the song the ride would have been over right after that.
On average it takes at least 3 years to build from scratch. Some were quicker depending on whether or not the attractions was built around an existing, off the shelf base ride. So many people like to quote that "well they built all of Epcot in three years, so there is no excuse". That's ok if you take into account that all of Epcot was built simultaneously. In other words it took three years to build each individual attraction. Since it was all done at the same time, people don't realize that to have done, let's say, 10 attractions separately, one at a time, it would have taken 30 years to build it.
I still think its a bit odd that with even with two years to refurb Maelstrom, FEA has more breakdowns per hour now than MAlestrom did. And people can blame it on the AA's all they want. That doesnt exactly excuse it considering that they did not have to build the ride from scratch which means a majority of the two years was most likely for interior construction and AA related projects. TWO YEARS and they have a myriad of issues. I can understand the jitters that come with a new attractio so if they fix them in the next month, thats great. IF a month from now they are still having major issues, then that will tell us alot about how shoddy the preperation was for this.
no one expected the project to be done overnight...a full two years later, I think we do expect the ride to be operational... I know things happen and there is a lot to it, but it is not ridiculous to expect high quality attractions from Disney...that was their hallmark...and if it too 3 years to build it, and it was a higher capacity ride built in the right place (Fantasyland) I am sure the complaints would be a lot less.
