Frozen Ever After opening day

twebber55

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Another thing to consider is that the Asian parks seem to operate by the old (and much higher) Disney standard of creating and building new attractions that re absolutely amazing. WDW uses the "good enough" standard. Just take a look at Shanghai, everything is pretty amazing. Or if Tokyo DL, Disney Sea, or even Hong Kong announce a new ride, you can bet its going to be done the right away and on a large scale. Now lets look at WDW. Everything they build, (or shoehorn), we have to adopt a "lets wait and see" mindstate.
asking because im curious whats new at Tokyo Disney land and Disney Sea in the last 10 years
 

MagicHappens1971

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The AA programming for that whole sequence is really well done, too. It's a shame that it is only seen during break downs.

But at the same time, it seems like clever foresight. They know there will be break downs. So now the show systems are handling them more gracefully. Elsa is the best example so far; particularly the wave. You never see her break character and do very mechanical looking resets. But another is how the video system feeding the AA faces and eyes have appropriate hold frames during break down.

The AAs themselves have obviously gotten much better over time. But with regard to the animation playback, I can't say I've noticed a significant jump in show system complexity since Splash Mountain.

FEA had a huge price tag. I'm assuming a significant chunk of that was the AA budget. Do we know who the manufacturer was? Garner Holt?
If I remember right, WDI did the AAs themselves?
 

Kylo Ken

Local Idiot
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Wooo! Almost two hours in and no break down yet. Let's keep our fingers crossed.
 

chiefs11

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If they hadn't set a hard opening date and proceeded with a soft open, followed by an official opening when the ride was ready, no one would be complaining. The ride is behaving like most rides do during their testing/soft-open period. Of course, you could say they should have been finished and doing soft opening sooner, like back in May, but they simply shouldn't have set a hard date when the ride wasn't ready. Plus, the wait times are being compounded by the number of fastpasses that are being handed out to people who waited in the stand-by line when it broke down, and those who had fastpasses for when it broke down and allowed to come back at any time.

Also, of interest to some: when we went through on Friday, the CM at the line merge said they were taking 2 people from stand by for every 18 in the fastpass line.
 

Horizons '83

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In the Parks
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If they hadn't set a hard opening date and proceeded with a soft open, followed by an official opening when the ride was ready, no one would be complaining. The ride is behaving like most rides do during their testing/soft-open period. Of course, you could say they should have been finished and doing soft opening sooner, like back in May, but they simply shouldn't have set a hard date when the ride wasn't ready. Plus, the wait times are being compounded by the number of fastpasses that are being handed out to people who waited in the stand-by line when it broke down, and those who had fastpasses for when it broke down and allowed to come back at any time.

Also, of interest to some: when we went through on Friday, the CM at the line merge said they were taking 2 people from stand by for every 18 in the fastpass line.
Just like Peter Pan, that line is brutal because of the amount of Fastpasses distributed.
 

Daveeeeed

Well-Known Member
Another thing to consider is that the Asian parks seem to operate by the old (and much higher) Disney standard of creating and building new attractions that re absolutely amazing. WDW uses the "good enough" standard. Just take a look at Shanghai, everything is pretty amazing. Or if Tokyo DL, Disney Sea, or even Hong Kong announce a new ride, you can bet its going to be done the right away and on a large scale. Now lets look at WDW. Everything they build, (or shoehorn), we have to adopt a "lets wait and see" mindstate.
It sucks, but at the same Time... Epcot needed a new ride badly, and Magic Kingdom does not need to bring in new people. I expect we'll be blown away by Pandora, and definitely Star Wars. Avatar (at least for now) will be custom to Animal Kingdom, so it will be our bragging right :)
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
The 'same ride' that all insiders who have talked about it said is on a much larger scale than what we got in Epcot.

Sounds like the same logic that was building Kong up to be awesome... The tds concept has one dimension we like (bigger) so it has got to be good! (Kong has a big aa so it's gonna be good!)
 

Daveeeeed

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Sounds like the same logic that was building Kong up to be awesome... The tds concept has one dimension we like (bigger) so it has got to be good! (Kong has a big aa so it's gonna be good!)
Well Kong was interesting. It doesn't suck, but it just doesn't seem to be an e although it's scale seems to be that way. Looks beautiful from the outside, great queue, great animatronic, by the ride itself has a lacking story, and honestly overall pretty bland. I haven't ridden it, but I really wanted a reason To go back to Universal other then HP, and a couple of rides. FEA is no reason to plan a trip around, but for a d looks solid. Kong's scale seems to be more like an E and for that reason I think it is lacking. Frozen at TDS is almost surely to be a big step up from Epcot just because it is poised as an E and not a D, but like Kong, it doesn't make it a sure hit, it just seems to be almost inevitable for it to not be much better.
 

Daveeeeed

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That's no excuse unless your management trying to justify it. Epcot could have gotten something fitting with the park. Not a Fantasyland ride.
I agree, but I was just saying that that is why they did it whether Frozen or another there needed to be something go somewhere asap.
 

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