From the OS: Gator drags child into Seven Seas Lagoon

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ratherbeinwdw

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If the story in the British press is true--that a family had to run from a gator on that beach a couple of weeks ago and they reported it-- then, I feel Disney by not putting up warning signs is responsible for this horrendous event.
 

Ignohippo

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I think it's more like to be between $30-80 million. As an attorney, I've seen things settle for more when the trauma is less. I expect Disney will move to settle this quickly - the last thing anyone wants to see is a report that Disney's lawyers are in court accusing the parents of contributory negligence.


^This. You hit it right on the head.

But, as my friend said, it isn't completely out of the realm of possibility that it could reach $100 mil. Not likely, but not impossible, either.

Most likely, the figure will be in the upper region of what you stated.

He's told me of a prominent person finding a dead lizard in his coffee and getting almost $10 mil. A HUGE settlement for something like this, if the family goes away quickly and quietly, is not out of the question.
 
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flynnibus

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They don't show the films on the beach at the Poly,

They did.. things change :) That's why I also said they show up more on the lawn and it depends on the property.

Does GF actually show them on the beach though? From people I know who've been/pictures they show them further up on a grassy area.

I don't know for sure, and why I didn't state one way or the other. But here is at least one photo showing a showing..

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WDW1974

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Just in ... Direct from George Kalogridis by way of Zenia Mucha and Disney's crisis managers in Shanghai ... three sentences that say ... the usual.
 

Disney Analyst

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And this prevents gators from coming ashore how????, You know gators CAN climb.

They won't be able to climb a smooth, flat cement surface surrounding the water.

And anyway none of this is to prevent gators getting on land... It is to prevent humans from entering areas they cannot see a gator. Gators on land cause minimal threat to humans.
 

oceanbreeze77

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If the story in the British press is true--that a family had to run from a gator on that beach a couple of weeks ago and they reported it-- then, I feel Disney by not putting up warning signs is responsible for this horrendous event.
I agree however, Wheres the proof?

Thats the biggest thing in any case. Proof. Proof that either proves a person of wrong doing or proof that clears a person of wrong doing.
 

micdisney

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Lawsuits should not happen. I get the parents are probably very upset and want to take legal action over Disney. Once they take it in and realize this is a very unfortunate occurrence and not Disney's fault. Saying this I also believe Disney needs to add more safety precautions to the lakes. They will be under pressure from the public to do this and will probably be adding them very soon.
 
For me personally - I was able to wait to unpack that mental luggage from the shooting. But this was literally outside my window. The shooting is horrific and terrible. This is the same but has the element for more people to be in these shoes. We easily could have been on that beach, it's our home resort. And it also went on for 18h with no resolution. That breeds a different flavor of conversation.


It was actually the complete opposite for me. Before I make my comment though, I just want to say that mentioning how many views one thread on a tragic event has vs. another as I saw previously mentioned by someone is just tacky to me. First, this event happened IN Disney World. Yes, the Pulse shooter may have targeted WDW, but this event actually happened there. It happened somewhere where I'd wager at least 90% of us have walked at one point. Many of us have children, and, as my mother has said to me countless times, burying a child is the most horrifying thing a parent can imagine. It is their worst nightmare.

That all being said, I do not have children, and other than feeling upset for the parents and imagining how my own would have felt, I do not feel a truly personal connection to this story. I did, however, find it completely engrossing due to its proximity within a destination I have visited many times and the amount of time it took for a conclusion to be drawn (sort of, anyway). This, I suspect, is the reason this thread is more "popular." I have nothing but sorrow for the family and I hope they are able to find an appropriate way to greive.

I am not able to read anything about the other (or should I say *one of* the other) tragedy that happened in Orlando this week. It broke me, and it is the reason why I cannot frequent threads or read news about it. Again, I suspect I am not the only one who feels this way. Everyone involved was around my sisters' ages and my age, and I completely broke down when my mother called me crying telling me of a victim who texted his mother that he loved her as he was waiting to eventually be hunted down by that lunatic. I am very close with my mother, and we text or call each other every day. I am tearing up writing this now.

Everyone grieves differently, and I am actually surprised so many parents were able to chime in here today. I hope all of you are squeezing your children tightly.

As someone who almost lost a sister to the point of planning out what I was going to say at her funeral, and going through two weeks of hospital visits not knowing if she'd be alive when I walked in the door, I have some idea of what the injured Pulse victims' families are suffering through. I haven't a clue what this family is dealing with, however, and I hope that none of us here (or any present or future visitors to WDW) ever have to experience it. I wish everyone, both involved, not involved, and on these boards, the safest thoughts.
 

Daveeeeed

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I'm kinda tired of the, they are from Nebraska they probably didn't know there were gators in a lake in Florida. I live in MD and gators in water in Florida is kinda obvious to me, and I've only vacationed there.
I'm almost certain they knew that there were gators in Florida, but seriously, the beach has no warnings, it feels inviting etc.
I've never had any problem with walking along the water, but knowing about the waterways that connect to Bay Lake plus that we stay at The Shades of Green which is across the street and has alligator warning signs, and alligators that I've seen sunbathing next to standard walkways around the resort, has always made me think that there were gators in Seven Seas Lagoon too.
Though someone without knowledge of the connecting waterways, and the close proximity to signage posted for natural alligator habitats makes me believe that they truly didn't think gators could be there. I guarantee that the majority of people not an active goer to WDW truly don't even consider there being Gators on this part of the WDW property. There really should be signs up in a place where you wouldn't expect gators to be especially at a hotel. I don't care even if it is the smallest chance, but there really should be something. No matter what though, nothing relieves of this tragedy.
 

durangojim

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It's unfortunate that the people at Disney probably can't say what they really want to say because of the lawyers; ie. We can't believe this happened, are so sorry it happened and never expected it to happen because if we did we would have changed our signs or tried other things to make sure it didn't happen.
Unfortunately real, heartfelt talk like this is pretty much prohibited by lawyer as it's seen as an admission of guilt. Similar to how in the old days, doctors were told never to apologize to patients, which thankfully has changed (at least for me).
 

Figments Friend

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Egad.....

This has to be one of the worse press weeks for WDW.
The timing of this ...and with all the other stuff going on now in Orlando.
This is quite unfortunate and disturbing.
Feeling for the Property right now, and for those effected by this weeks seemingly continuous stream of mayhem.

It was a surprise hearing yet another unfortunate story from Orlando this late morning from my Dad.
He starting telling me about ' a incident involving someone getting attacked by a gator in The Enchanted Lake at Disneyland'.
His words....not mine.
:bored:

I had to do a double take, then slowly tell him ' Dad, there are no gators in California. You must mean Walt Disney World in Florida!'.
Pop responds - ' Well I can't tell em' apart....!'
:in pain:

Yeah....quite a morning.

This is truly a bad time for Orlando.
Sending ya'all some love....and condolences from afar.

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durangojim

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I'm almost certain they knew that there were gators in Florida, but seriously, the beach has no warnings, it feels inviting etc.
I've never had any problem with walking along the water, but knowing about the waterways that connect to Bay Lake plus that we stay at The Shades of Green which is across the street and has alligator warning signs, and alligators that I've seen sunbathing next to standard walkways around the resort, has always made me think that there were gators in Seven Seas Lagoon too.
Though someone without knowledge of the connecting waterways, and the close proximity to signage posted for natural alligator habitats makes me believe that they truly didn't think gators could be there. I guarantee that the majority of people not an active goer to WDW truly don't even consider there being Gators on this part of the WDW property. There really should be signs up in a place where you wouldn't expect gators to be especially at a hotel. I don't care even if it is the smallest chance, but there really should be something. No matter what though, nothing relieves of this tragedy.
I think you need to take it down a bunch of notches. Are you angry that the kid died, or that people are defending Disney against what was pretty much an act of God? How exactly would you have had them prevent it? Do you have kids? If so, how will you make sure that nothing bad ever happens to them. Do you expect others to do it for you?
The warnings that Disney had were reasonable. This has never happened in the 45 years WDW has been around. Many things happen because of a lack of imagination of what could happen, and this was one of them.
 

micdisney

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I think you need to take it down a bunch of notches. Are you angry that the kid died, or that people are defending Disney against what was pretty much an act of God? How exactly would you have had them prevent it? Do you have kids? If so, how will you make sure that nothing bad ever happens to them. Do you expect others to do it for you?
The warnings that Disney had were reasonable. This has never happened in the 45 years WDW has been around. Many things happen because of a lack of imagination of what could happen, and this was one of them.
I agree. We can't predict everything that's gonna happen.
 

brb1006

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original poster wayyyyy not cool, but i had to repost this i found on my Fb feed
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this is what gets you fired... A Disney World tragedy, joked about by a DISNEY employee, using a still from a Disney movie
I heard Disney doesn't take it kindly when they hear about CM or employees showing bad behavior or insensitive actions especially with social media.
 
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