Free refills gone?

[Tom P.]

One *could* argue that the entire focus surrounding on the obesity epidemic is food because it's easy to tax food and generate government revenue, while it's difficult to tax exercise and thus the government gets no benefit from encouraging that. But I suppose that would move into a political debate, which is not permitted here.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Is it a loophole really, though? I mean, they had to specifically decide to install the RapidFill system that required chips to activate. Then they had to specifically decide to put chips in the paper cups that had been set to a three refill limit. It wasn't like "oops, customers can get three refills." Someone made the decision to set that as the limit. They could have just as easily made it one. Or none.

No...they did it on purpose...it was a deliberate loophole.

What I think is that they didn’t want to staff/have confrontations at the machines...but they sure as hell don’t want cups coming back in once or Twice a day for a week.

So they crunched the numbers and somewhere between 2 and 2 was the least amount of average consumption requiring the least amount of friction/incidents. It was the “catch all” number they can live with.

 

[englanddg]

Are you serious again? If the 3 posts above mine do not realize that soda is a MAJOR contributor to an unhealthy lifestyle and obesity.. then I don’t really know where I am. Seriously.

It’s empty calories, it doesn’t make the body register as being full the same way food does.. and worst of all.. it’s typically consumed in combination with the foods shown in the the above photo.

Soda as one of the worst possible consumption choices is not a secret.. this has actually been a commonly know fact for quite a few decades now. But hey.. maybe it wasn’t as commonly known as I thought.

Next you will start talking about HFCS.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

One *could* argue that the entire focus surrounding on the obesity epidemic is food because it's easy to tax food and generate government revenue, while it's difficult to tax exercise and thus the government gets no benefit from encouraging that. But I suppose that would move into a political debate, which is not permitted here.

Obese/sick people drive a couple of mega industries as well...never forget to get the money hounds on the scent.

The idea that excercise facilities cost anyone a dime is ridiculous...if you think about it. It should be mandatory in insurance...which should be mandatory.

 

[englanddg]

One *could* argue that the entire focus surrounding on the obesity epidemic is food because it's easy to tax food and generate government revenue, while it's difficult to tax exercise and thus the government gets no benefit from encouraging that. But I suppose that would move into a political debate, which is not permitted here.

Did you know that now that sme African countries that are doing well economically and have super markets in previously failing communities, the same people who griped about starvation, are griping about obesity and blaming it on the super markets?

 

[21stamps]

Next you will start talking about HFCS.

No, I guess I’ll just stop wondering why it’s such a problem or why people would complain about a 3 refill limit. They just don’t know any better.

 

[englanddg]

No, I guess I’ll just stop wondering why it’s such a problem or why people would complain about a 3 refill limit. They just don’t know any better.

The 3 refill limit isn't for their health, it's cost control.

 

[21stamps]

The 3 refill limit isn't for their health, it's cost control.

Right.. I’m talking about why any person would actually need/want 3 sodas with 1 meal.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Are you serious again? If the 3 posts above mine do not realize that soda is a MAJOR contributor to an unhealthy lifestyle and obesity.. then I don’t really know where I am. Seriously.

It’s empty calories, it doesn’t make the body register as being full the same way food does.. and worst of all.. it’s typically consumed in combination with the foods shown in the above photo.

Soda as one of the worst possible consumption choices is not a secret.. this has actually been a commonly know fact for quite a few decades now. But hey.. maybe it wasn’t as commonly known as I thought.

You have a pattern of talking through the chair cushion on things...is what I’m saying. That usually starts in an unnecessary soap box stance/judgement.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Right.. I’m talking about why any person would actually need 3 sodas with 1 meal.

The same reason they would take their kid to bibbidi bobbing boutique or Buy after hours magic and then try to justify it...pure gluttony. What “I want”...no real reason or recourse.

 

[21stamps]

You have a pattern of talking through the chair cushion on things...is what I’m saying. That usually starts in an unnecessary soap box stance/judgement.

You’re correct.. drinking calories is not a problem..it has nothing to do with obesity in America. I’m totally wrong.
Carry on..

 

[CaptainAmerica]

How about the fact that Frito-Lay and PepsiCo and Walmart all lobby heavily to make sure that high margin junk food will always be eligible for SNAP (food stamps), thus ensuring that the poorest Americans and their children will always have access to the foods that will kill them?

There, that should irritate everyone equally.

*Works way through half a bag of Tostitos Scoops.

 

[englanddg]

How about the fact that Frito-Lay and PepsiCo and Walmart all lobby heavily to make sure that high margin junk food will always be eligible for SNAP (food stamps), thus ensuring that the poorest Americans and their children will always have access to the foods that will kill them?

There, that should irritate everyone equally.

*Works way through half a bag of Tostitos Scoops.

SNAP is, and always was, a gift to the food production lobby, and not the restaurant lobby. It's why it sits under USDA, with the rules it does.

If I were to re-imagine it, I'd design it closer to Blue Apron or Plated.

 

[21stamps]

How about the fact that Frito-Lay and PepsiCo and Walmart all lobby heavily to make sure that high margin junk food will always be eligible for SNAP (food stamps), thus ensuring that the poorest Americans and their children will always have access to the foods that will kill them?

There, that should irritate everyone equally.

I don’t buy that line. But, I won’t go there... at least not in this thread.

 

[note2001]

My inlaws are at the world right now. They were at riverside for lunch yesterday and when they went for a refill, it said not allowed. They asked and were told the only way to get refills is with the refillable mug. I hadn't seen this posted but is it only quick service drink stations? It was bad enough they put chips in the stupid cups and only allowed 3 refills. But if true, this is kind of ridiculous.

BACK to the Future point of the thread
From what we hear, no Disney has not stopped the refills on the paper cups, but doesn't mean that they can't at any moment.

The chipped cups were to help control overuse of the machines. Water is still free refills, infact one doesn't even have to buy soda to get it, tell them to drink as much as they want.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You’re correct.. drinking calories is not a problem..it has nothing to do with obesity in America. I’m totally wrong.
Carry on..

I think the point you’re missing is that limiting soda fountain access will not cure a single case of obesity...because it has the be self determination across the entire spectrum/life pattern or it feels.

Society has moved heavily away from carbonated beverages on the whole...but they also have taken a right turn away from other things at Disney parks that many would defend. So this isn’t papa mouse taking care of the kids:..it’s cost accounting and data study.

 

[DisneyDoctor]

I think Disney enables more than just bad soda habits

Lol, you can’t post a random graphic you found on Google images and use it to define the obesity epidemic.

You sound like my aunt who is an expert politician, part time physician, world class chef, and personally knows God. Please, solve some of the other epidemics plaguing the world.

 

[englanddg]

BACK to the Future point of the thread
From what we hear, no Disney has not stopped the refills on the paper cups, but doesn't mean that they can't at any moment.

The chipped cups were to help control overuse of the machines. Water is still free refills, infact one doesn't even have to buy soda to get it, tell them to drink as much as they want.

Water is free because giving free water is law in most states (and I know for a fact it is law in FL).

Know what you are talking about before speculating.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

If I were to re-imagine it, I'd design it closer to Blue Apron or Plated.

Or my Chipotle order. Black beans, brown rice, peppers, onions, pork or chicken, tomatoes, and cheese. Heck even guacamole. Mexico will pay for it.

 

[21stamps]

I think the point you’re missing is that limiting soda fountain access will not cure a single case of obesity...because it has the be self determination across the entire spectrum/life pattern or it feels.

Society has moved heavily away from carbonated beverages on the whole...but they also have taken a right turn away from other things at Disney parks that many would defend. So this isn’t papa mouse taking care of the kids:..it’s cost accounting and data study.

I know that the meaning of words written usually gets lost in a page or two.. so just as a reminder.. here are the 2 comments in question-

You all shouldn't be drinking soda anyway. That's right, I'm being that guy.

No but seriously, all I could think of is “this is why we have an obesity problem in America”

As you can see.. they didn’t have anything to do with why Disney was limiting to 3 refills, the answer to that should be common sense.
The comments were directed at why a 3 limit would be a problem to anyone.