Free refills gone?

[Me 'Earties]

Sorry all, I don't know the reference here

Michael Bloomberg-former Mayor of NYC. He tried to cap the amount of soda that could be sold to a consumer to 16 oz in NYC-aka the soda ban. I think it was eventually was overturned by the NY Supreme Court

 

[21stamps]

Eyes were rolled at you, not the obesity epidemic.

Much, much greater forces are at work than beverage refills...

Well, considering this is a thread about soda... I made my comment on another poster’s comment regarding soda.
And yes, soda consumption is a major contributor to obesity. It’s drinking empty calories.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The paper cups have also had chips in them for quite some time. They have been set to allow three refills within a set time period, I believe two hours. If Disney had wanted the policy to be "no refills," they could have easily set that in the chip. I have never heard of that being the policy.

Also, it does totally make sense to offer both. Refillable mugs are sold as a benefit over single serve drinks because you pay once for them and then are able to use them for the entire length of your stay. If you're there for ten days, you can use them for ten days. Someone could get 50 refills in that time and be covered. With the paper cups, you're buying a beverage for one specific meal and, at maximum, are limited to two hours in which to get your three refills. Not to mention that your mugs go home with you. I use ours for coffee every morning on the way to work.

The paper cups are hardly a substitute for the refillable mugs.

I just don’t think it was a battle they were prepared fo fight...though I don’t think you’ll get any policy, posting, or spiel talking about a 3 limit at any point in time. Just a tolerated loophole.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Michael Bloomberg-former Mayor of NYC. He tried to cap the amount of soda that could be sold to a consumer to 16 oz in NYC-aka the soda ban. I think it was eventually was overturned by the NY Supreme Court

It wasn’t a ban if I recall...it was a heavy tax on the excess... which was kinda ingenious. We have a long history of taxing the things that are bad for you anyway.

There should be a tax on chef mickeys...per plate

 

[DisneyDoctor]

Well, considering this is a thread about soda... I made my comment on another poster’s comment regarding soda.
And yes, soda consumption is a major contributor to obesity. It’s drinking empty calories.

You’re not worth my time.

 

[englanddg]

A lot of this went down in the Rapidfill threads at the time.

I...spoke a lot in them because I have a background that involves restaurant operations.

How most of these things work, the machines and carbonation units are paid for by the vendor (Pepsi or Coke generally), and the syrup and CO2 is purchased by the purveyor.

Rapidfill seems silly, until you push it out over all of the resorts and the scale that is WDW. Then, it makes sense.

And, rather than have a Cast Member stand by and patrol the beverage bars, they opted for a technological solution. That way, operations had an "out"...they could tell the guest "I'm sorry, the system says you can't fill your thermos with coke", or could also "make magic" by "overriding"...but cost management could also be accomplished.

I think Rapidfill is stupid in the sense it is a sledgehammer for a nail...but...the issue I have is that they can't even maintain the beverage bars at a reasonable level of cleanliness, generally...

That said, I do understand how it came about. I've sat in similar discussions for other companies.

 

[21stamps]

You’re not worth my time.

I’m sorry if you’re having a bad day. Hope it gets better.

 

[englanddg]

I’m sorry if you’re having a bad day. Hope it gets better.

More that he's aware, as a med student, and you are obstinate. But, that isn't out of character for you.

I get it. I'm a stubborn too.

 

[21stamps]

More that he's aware, as a med student, and you are obstinate. But, that isn't out of character for you.

I get it. I'm a stubborn ******* too.

A med student would/should know the effects of soda.

Don’t worry.. I’m not trying to take it away from anyone.. I eat plenty of unhealthy stuff too... but at least I can recognize it.

 

[englanddg]

A med student would/should know the effects of soda.

Don’t worry.. I’m not trying to take it away from anyone.. I eat plenty of unhealthy stuff too... but at least I can recognize it.

His point is, there's a lot more going on for the "obesity epidemic" than soda consumption. That is a boogieman over general unhealthy practices.

But, yeah, at least you do recognize you do them (so do I). I can give you that.

 

[note2001]

Well, considering this is a thread about soda... I made my comment on another poster’s comment regarding soda.
And yes, soda consumption is a major contributor to obesity. It’s drinking empty calories.

I think Disney enables more than just bad soda habits

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

A med student would/should know the effects of soda.

Don’t worry.. I’m not trying to take it away from anyone.. I eat plenty of unhealthy stuff too... but at least I can recognize it.

Is this like when you were an economist/mass labor theory expert? Cause that didn’t really go too well...if we’re honest.

 

[englanddg]

I think Disney enables more than just bad soda habits

Yes yes, the issue is processing. (no, it isn't).

What about processed vitamin enriched foods? Oh, yes, like "lifewater" and the sort.

The issue is, the biology of the individual, the activity of the individual, and the lifestyle of the individual, that is what matters.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think Disney enables more than just bad soda habits

The unlimited 50 lb vats of jumbo sausage links came to mind for me...

 

[englanddg]

The unlimited 50 lb vats of jumbo sausage links came to mind for me...

Is that what is backstage at the Germany pavilion?

Makes a lot of sense....really.

 

[Tom P.]

I just don’t think it was a battle they were prepared fo fight...though I don’t think you’ll get any policy, posting, or spiel talking about a 3 limit at any point in time. Just a tolerated loophole.

Is it a loophole really, though? I mean, they had to specifically decide to install the RapidFill system that required chips to activate. Then they had to specifically decide to put chips in the paper cups that had been set to a three refill limit. It wasn't like "oops, customers can get three refills." Someone made the decision to set that as the limit. They could have just as easily made it one. Or none.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Is that what is backstage at the Germany pavilion?

Makes a lot of sense....really.

Hell...I can excuse it there...

I was talking about at 10-15 all you can eat breakfasts marketing to children they roll out from 7-noon, 365 days a year...

 

[englanddg]

Is it a loophole really, though? I mean, they had to specifically decide to install the RapidFill system that required chips to activate. Then they had to specifically decide to put chips in the paper cups that had been set to a three refill limit. It wasn't like "oops, customers can get three refills." Someone made the decision to set that as the limit. They could have just as easily made it one. Or none.

It was policy before Rapidfill. Guests just ignored it.

Hence...Rapidfill.

 

[21stamps]

Is this like when you were an economist/mass labor theory expert? Cause that didn’t really go too well...if we’re honest.

Are you serious again? If the 3 posts above mine do not realize that soda is a MAJOR contributor to an unhealthy lifestyle and obesity.. then I don’t really know where I am. Seriously.

It’s empty calories, it doesn’t make the body register as being full the same way food does.. and worst of all.. it’s typically consumed in combination with the foods shown in the above photo.

Soda as one of the worst possible consumption choices is not a secret.. this has actually been a commonly know fact for quite a few decades now. But hey.. maybe it wasn’t as commonly known as I thought.

 

[englanddg]

Hell...I can excuse it there...

I was talking about at 10-15 all you can eat breakfasts marketing to children they roll out from 7-noon, 365 days a year...

Gotta give them kids their mickey carbs before they hit the parks.