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Forbidden Mountain Confirmed at Shareholders Meeting
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AndyMagic
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Are there going to be show scenes or is it just a regular coaster ride through a mountain. We already have a Big Thunder Mountain, so I hope this isn't just a faster and taller version of an old favorite. I am hoping for animatronics and elaborate effects but who knows. Also, from the look of the model it appears like it is a wooden coaster. I assume that it will be steel but built to look like wood ala California Screamin'. Lastly, any word on a possible storyline? I hope it has a real story unlike Space Mountain and BTM that basically just have overall themes.
CTXRover
Well-Known Member
Out of curiosity, do you know how much (if any) of the ride will actually be inside the mountain? I imagine, like BTM, a portion of it is going to be outside along the mountain, but the thing seems so massive that it would make sense that the ride enters a cave or something and a good portion of the "show" develops within the mountain itself.
Do you know if this could be true?
Looks great by the way. Thanks for posting the pic. Feel free to put more up if you have any
Main Street USA
Well-Known Member
I think a snowstorm inside the mountain would be a great effect, and not really hard to do at all.
You have left me with nothing to base a witty reply upon. Blast! However, holding true to my stubborn nature, I'm holding off judgement, until I see construction at AK (i'm there at least 3 days a week, and although I see construction equipment, I have yet to see it actually be used)
Main Street USA
Well-Known Member
They're using all of it secretly under the cover of darkness! Muahahahaha!
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
Eisner calls this a "testosterone-driven ride". Now, a normal mine train coaster A. does not go very fast and B. is not very intense. Anyway, my thought is--we already know this won't have any inversions, and it is a 200-foot tall mountain. Assuming that this won't be a 70 mph coaster (and I would guess it won't be, so that they can have show scenes), this will probably have brakes at several points along the track. So, this leads me to wonder...a ride with no inversions that doesn't go exceedingly fast doesn't seem very testosterone-driven to me. Therefore, looking at patterns in the last few major Disney coasters, and knowing that the lift hill will use LIMs and not a chain lift (and it certainly will--Disney will insist; look at how much quieter it makes Screamin', I am wondering if they are considering actually using a LIM launch up the lift hill. It would make for a more thrilling start to the ride, dare I say "testosterone-driven", allow for greater capacity on the ride. Only thing is, I'm not sure how they would incorporate that into the story--regardless, I am led to believe this will feature use of LIMs at some point in the ride. With a preliminary budget over $100,000,000, it seems like something high tech like LIM/LSM would make sense...just a though, and I am sure I am getting ahead of myself...
AndyMagic
Well-Known Member
Also, I am a little upset about the placement of the queue. From the model it appears as though the queue is very far away from the mountain in a seperate building and the loading of the ride is done outside. I was looking forward to queueing through the massive mountain. Maybe I am wrong about this but that is what it looks like from the picture.
ArchiDanDisney
Member
First off, how can you tell where the cue is? Secondly, what does it matter? I'm with rob, when the machiens start to be used, I shall believe it.
Lee
Adventurer
As far as the queue goes, expect it to change from the little lump in the photo. It will be away from the mountain,and nicely themed.
Here is the art my old avatar was based on. A pal from another board did it a couple months ago. It is not exactly right, but you get a sense of the attraction, which by the way looks to take up nearly six acres of land.
Here is the art my old avatar was based on. A pal from another board did it a couple months ago. It is not exactly right, but you get a sense of the attraction, which by the way looks to take up nearly six acres of land.
WDWspider
New Member
I like it and although most of it looks fast paced, I'm sure there will be show scenes. I mean this is Animal Kingdom, they wouldn't just build a coaster and have animated cardboard cutouts all over the place ---- would they. 
:lookaroun
But seriously, If the focus at this park stays on Animals, then I imagine there will be a share of Yeti encounters to satisfy the park objective. However I think this will be the Big Daddy to BTM in regard to thrills through a mountain.
:lookaroun But seriously, If the focus at this park stays on Animals, then I imagine there will be a share of Yeti encounters to satisfy the park objective. However I think this will be the Big Daddy to BTM in regard to thrills through a mountain.
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
Well, that's why I was thinking LIMs would be good--you could have the coaster move quickly at points, slower at others, for show scenes. Otherwise, the train would end up going through those outside helixes at 70 mph--unless they were very large helixes, that would be painful, and if they are TOO large, it will look bad by the mountain...
CTXRover
Well-Known Member
Having the queue inside the mountain would be cool, but not very realistic (in terms of story).
This whole idea reminds me of a train my family and I took up to the summit of SnowDon Mountain in Wales this past summer. We boarded a train around the mountain's base. Then the train was pushed through some pretty flat land before making a drastic ascent to the summit of the mountain. Just the model alone makes this look as though the "idea" the imagineers are coming up with to take a train trip up Mt. Everest is very real.
From the looks of the photos, I think you will get your share of inside mountain "stuff" during the ride.
Like KRR and the safari, the premise seems to be taking the shape of a tourist agency making and offering the expedition for you. In that case, I believe the queue shouldn't be inside the mountain, no matter how neat it would be. However, like the queue for KRR and the safari, it will probably be extensively themed to the story.
AndyMagic
Well-Known Member
Good point... I suppose if it is themed like you said then that would make more sense. Does anyone know what the real story behind the ride is?? Also, while the queue isn't inside the mountain, I DO hope it is in a seperate building with AC because Animal Kingdom is SO hot and so far Dinosaur is the only indoor queue.
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
As this is themed to look like Everest, it would make the most sense to have a base camp at the base of the mountain. Based on what I know about Everest, and the great dangers the explorers face when ascending the mountain, how kewl (and realistic) would it be for guests to actually FALL INTO the mountain due to a crack in the ice. If you recall, this coaster was to go backwards for a portion, so I could see guests ascending to the summit, then slipping backwards into the mountain, and that is where the show scenes would take place--Everest has always been remote and full of mystery, so they could easily play with what guests might see inside the mountain (inc. the Yeti). That seems to be the most realistic set-up, to me, anyway.
AndyMagic
Well-Known Member
Just a little update... over at Intercot they have the scoop on the storyline!
"The ride starts outdoors in an abandoned tea plantation where the villagers have all been frightened away by the yeti from the mountain. The trains will be similar to BTMRR. Trains enter the mountain, and travelers are harassed by the yeti. At one point the trains will run backwards. They are looking to open the ride in the summer of 2005. We are hearing construction sounds behind the Jungle Trek.
Hmmm... an abandoned tea plantation?? I like the idea of the villagers being frightened away but why exactly are we boarding this train then?
"The ride starts outdoors in an abandoned tea plantation where the villagers have all been frightened away by the yeti from the mountain. The trains will be similar to BTMRR. Trains enter the mountain, and travelers are harassed by the yeti. At one point the trains will run backwards. They are looking to open the ride in the summer of 2005. We are hearing construction sounds behind the Jungle Trek.
Hmmm... an abandoned tea plantation?? I like the idea of the villagers being frightened away but why exactly are we boarding this train then?