CoffeeJedi
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Then what in the world are you doing on a Disney theme park fandom message board?
Theming and attention to detail are really what seperate Disney's parks from your average amusement park.
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Theming and attention to detail are really what seperate Disney's parks from your average amusement park.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Okay, got it. Just out of curiosity, if you don't like rides like Pirates or Mansion, what rides do you like? What brings you to Disney World?
DisneyYorkian74
Active Member
Just being there..., seeing the castle in real life..., watching the fireworks go off over Cinderella Castle...
Is what makes me love the place and keeps me coming back.
I was disappointed with the rides like "Pirates" and "Haunted Mansion" when I first rode them because I think they have nothing exciting to offer.
But rides like Expedition Everest, Rock n Roller Coaster, Splash Mountain, Space Mountain, Test Track, Mission Space, Soarin', etc... are rides that are right up my alley...
I love Walt Disney World more for the atmosphere and their castle over the actual rides themselves.
ok, thanks for the walt d info, i thought he had it planned out before they built it, i do remember seeing videos of him talking about it, and was over seeing construction when he died...
well.. i guess WDW will have to wait till 50th annaversay before it gets cleaned up...
prob all about $$, takes alot more $$ to keep up WDW due to its size
____*t landscaping mantinance alone must be killer...
in DL they dont have to upkeep 100's acres of park
when u look at say microsoft windows local live arial shots, WDW is just amzin
DL is just scary with the crap around it...
i know Walt felt so bad about that, and i do too
mitch
http://local.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.nr2wqk861cv9_Walt%20Disney%20World___
http://local.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point...geles%2c%20California%2c%20United%20States___
CLICK ON THE BRIDS EYE VIEW!!!!!! and click on AERIAL!!!!
well.. i guess WDW will have to wait till 50th annaversay before it gets cleaned up...
prob all about $$, takes alot more $$ to keep up WDW due to its size
____*t landscaping mantinance alone must be killer...
in DL they dont have to upkeep 100's acres of park
when u look at say microsoft windows local live arial shots, WDW is just amzin
DL is just scary with the crap around it...
i know Walt felt so bad about that, and i do too
mitch
http://local.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point.nr2wqk861cv9_Walt%20Disney%20World___
http://local.live.com/?v=2&sp=Point...geles%2c%20California%2c%20United%20States___
CLICK ON THE BRIDS EYE VIEW!!!!!! and click on AERIAL!!!!
Dragonrider1227
Well-Known Member
Disneyland would naturally have an easier time keeping clean and refurbished since it's only got two parks, three hotels, and a Downtown Disney.
WDW on the otherhand has FOUR theme parks, two waterparks, dozens of hotels, and a Downtown Disney. Add the fact that WDW gets ALOT more people, and thus has more trouble finding times to close certain attractions for long term refurbs, it's also only natural it would take longer there for things to get fixed up. That being said, WDW still does a few things better than Disneyland. I feel it has better atmosphere, and feels less like a park and more like another world. Though WDW's HM isn't in the best condition, I still think it as the best show building.
Second perhaps to Tokyos.
So, yeah. WDW could be handled better, but it could be worse too. Did you SEE those pictures of that japanese theme park "Dreamland?"
WDW on the otherhand has FOUR theme parks, two waterparks, dozens of hotels, and a Downtown Disney. Add the fact that WDW gets ALOT more people, and thus has more trouble finding times to close certain attractions for long term refurbs, it's also only natural it would take longer there for things to get fixed up. That being said, WDW still does a few things better than Disneyland. I feel it has better atmosphere, and feels less like a park and more like another world. Though WDW's HM isn't in the best condition, I still think it as the best show building.
Second perhaps to Tokyos. So, yeah. WDW could be handled better, but it could be worse too. Did you SEE those pictures of that japanese theme park "Dreamland?"
DDuckFan130
Well-Known Member
Out of curiosity, isn't it true that WDW's POTC lacks drops because of the water levels (or being above/below sea level) or something of that nature? I don't remember the specifics, but there was some technical reason why DL has the two drops and WDW doesn't.
Might be wrong though :lol:
Might be wrong though :lol:
disneyphilip
Member
Don't be ridiculous! WDW is NOT going to wait that long to get things all cleaned up again like that.
1FoolishMortal
New Member
^ Many people here seem to think it acceptable that they wait 15 years to start cleaning things up. Really makes me wonder....
wonderofdisney
New Member
Interesting thread
Let me preface my post by saying I am new to this site but find the site very interesting.
I live in Canada so have no built in preference to either park and have visted each one once.
I liked both parks and found them enjoyable for different reasons. Disneyland is smaller and of course it is easier to navigate and I found some of the rides a little better.
Disney World was bigger and harder to navigate but there was just so much to do in the area that I choose to go to Florida instead. Keep in mind that I live in Edmonton, Alberta and Anaheim is obviously much closer for me.
To me it comes down to preference and many of you have been so many times that perhaps Disney has lost some of it's wonders and you are a little jaded.
Perhaps some of you have been to Edmonton and seen West Edmonton Mall. It's a great attraction for tourists but because I have lived here all my life the weaknesses and problems stand out.
Enjoy the parks and many of you that live close close to both parks should feel fortunate but I understand it is human nature to become critical of something you have seen many times.
As a newbie I am going to enjoy the wonder again for a second time in March and I am really looking forward to it.:sohappy:
Let me preface my post by saying I am new to this site but find the site very interesting.
I live in Canada so have no built in preference to either park and have visted each one once.
I liked both parks and found them enjoyable for different reasons. Disneyland is smaller and of course it is easier to navigate and I found some of the rides a little better.
Disney World was bigger and harder to navigate but there was just so much to do in the area that I choose to go to Florida instead. Keep in mind that I live in Edmonton, Alberta and Anaheim is obviously much closer for me.
To me it comes down to preference and many of you have been so many times that perhaps Disney has lost some of it's wonders and you are a little jaded.
Perhaps some of you have been to Edmonton and seen West Edmonton Mall. It's a great attraction for tourists but because I have lived here all my life the weaknesses and problems stand out.
Enjoy the parks and many of you that live close close to both parks should feel fortunate but I understand it is human nature to become critical of something you have seen many times.
As a newbie I am going to enjoy the wonder again for a second time in March and I am really looking forward to it.:sohappy:
wannab@dis
Well-Known Member
Welcome to the boards!
Thanks for a great first post. I believe you are correct and those that constantly find fault may be jaded and have lost sight of the magic.
MainSt1993
New Member
I could be wrong, but I believe it's because WDW doesn't need them. Same reason you don't board an elevator at the begining of Haunted Mansion. At DL, you have to go underneath the railroad tracks to get to the show buildings for the two attractions. At WDW, they didn't have that challenge. So, for POTC to have two big drops, you'd either have to build the front end of the attraction higher, or excavate a lot of ground.
PencilTest
New Member
But wait, they did have to excavate a lot of earth, didn't they? I mean, you still go down the drop at the beginning, and then go back up on the moving walkway after the ride ends. Wouldn't that make pretty much all of the ride underground? Or is it technically at ground level, since the park itself is built up higher than actual ground level?
Aw crap, now I'm confused...
1FoolishMortal
New Member
BTW, welcome to the boards.
Thank you! :xmas:
it was a JOKE!
guess some people dont have a sarcasm detector
mitch
I wasn't just referring to your post. There were many other people that stated that as well.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
And yet the fact that they didn't need elevators for the Haunted Mansion stretch rooms meant that they weren't even operating that first scene for paying customers on my last visit to Walt Disney World. They just had both doors open on each side of the stretch room and the line just snaked right through there and straight on to the loading area, which was in full view just as soon as you entered the house.
I was amazed that they would stoop so low! It got worse when I returned to the Magic Kingdom Park two days later and they were still doing the exact same thing, so it obviously wasn't just a temporary one day only thing.
If both of the stretch rooms don't work, or you don't want to spend the labor to run them and staff the extra CM's, then just shut the ride down. It was a really tacky stunt in my opinion and cemented in my mind the fact that WDW and Disneyland have very different priorities when it comes to operating their signature E Ticket attractions.
It didn't help that once I went on WDW's Haunted Mansion it was in the most pathetic shape I've ever seen a Haunted Mansion be in. Tokyo has an exact duplicate of the WDW version and theirs was stunningly maintained and looked like it had just opened the week before, even though it is a 24 year old ride.
DDuckFan130
Well-Known Member
I agree HM isn't in good shape, but those incidents you described are strange. Maybe there was a technical problem? Although if it happened again, I just don't know. I've never had that happen on my many upon many trips to WDW :lol:And yet the fact that they didn't need elevators for the Haunted Mansion stretch rooms meant that they weren't even operating that first scene for paying customers on my last visit to Walt Disney World. They just had both doors open on each side of the stretch room and the line just snaked right through there and straight on to the loading area, which was in full view just as soon as you entered the house.
I was amazed that they would stoop so low! It got worse when I returned to the Magic Kingdom Park two days later and they were still doing the exact same thing, so it obviously wasn't just a temporary one day only thing.
If both of the stretch rooms don't work, or you don't want to spend the labor to run them and staff the extra CM's, then just shut the ride down. It was a really tacky stunt in my opinion and cemented in my mind the fact that WDW and Disneyland have very different priorities when it comes to operating their signature E Ticket attractions.
It didn't help that once I went on WDW's Haunted Mansion it was in the most pathetic shape I've ever seen a Haunted Mansion be in. Tokyo has an exact duplicate of the WDW version and theirs was stunningly maintained and looked like it had just opened the week before, even though it is a 24 year old ride.
Surf Fish2285
Member
I am and have been a pass holder for DL for the last 10 years. Before the 50th Disneyland was in disrepair. Not so much that I would compair it to Six Flags. I recently visited WDW last october and was amazed in the condition and overall experence with in all 4 parks as well as the resorts and hotels. So much that I am visiting again in December 2007. I find both parks to be in great shape, and couln't see anyone ever boycotting!
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Yes, it was very odd. The first day I thought "Oh, wow, something must be really wrong with the stretching rooms. I'd heard they weren't really elevators in WDW, but how weird that they would keep the ride open!"
Two days later we went back to the Magic Kingdom and it was still being operated like that. The CM's didn't seem to care, no one said a word, and the tourists were all still filing right through the disabled stretching room and getting in to their DoomBuggies. That's when I thought "Oh my God, they are still doing it! This just is not the way you are supposed to run a Disney theme park!". :fork:
DDuckFan130
Well-Known Member
If it were me, I probably wouldn't have cared because I've seen it so many times and being stuck with a bunch of people in there makes me claustrophobic...plus HM just doesn't keep my interest as much these days as Splash or Philharmagic or even the TTA....
:lookaroun
But for first-timers, it sucks. I guess when they fix it up, I'll go back on it. In the meantime, I shall visit it every other trip :lol:
dreamscometrue
Well-Known Member
I completely agree. As I noted in an earlier post, those of us on these boards represent a ridiculously small percentage of annual visitors. Further, we are NOT typical WDW or DL visitors. A massive number of people who visit don't do any research, don't pay attention to attraction details, know little, if any, history of the parks...they just go and have fun. Our personalities and interests are such that we enjoy posting here, but we are different. Case in point...I spoke to 2 friends who have recently taken their families to WDW for visits and they knew little of pre shows, queue details, etc. To them, EE is just a fun coaster ride, Splash is a flume ride (many people have never seen Song of the South), etc.